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Anders
03-31-2014, 07:52 AM
This weekend I watched the German Open on TV, and I knew from before that Dima used Tenergy and has been a bit annoyed that he doesn't use Donic equipment when he is sponsored by Donic, so I have tried to get a look at his racket to see if he might change..

At two different points when Dima served, you could clearly see what appear to be some kind of Bluefire rubber on his forehand due to the blue sponge! Are Donic able to compete with Butterfly now? Sure looks like it! I can only imagine what it would mean to the masses and to Donics sales if players knew Dima is actually using Donic rubbers, not only promoting them and using Tenergy instead.

Im so sorry to not have any pictures to prove it, but I'm sure if this is his new setup we will see more of it!
Please comment what you think or if you have more info than me :)

TurboZ
03-31-2014, 08:44 AM
Sorry to tell you it is not Donic but the same old Tenergy.

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Anders
03-31-2014, 08:54 AM
Is that picture from the German Open? Anyway I only saw the blue sponge in the final, and based on the clothing that picture is not from the final.. Ofc he is not likely to change during the tournament, but heck, I am sure I saw a blue sponge on the black side :p

Wiseman
03-31-2014, 09:43 AM
It was intresting to see when Dima was smashing forehand sevaral times he chance to the backhanrubber. Same as CNT players do. So i wonder if Dima is playing with H3 or is Tenergy 05 so boosted and soft, its difficult to smash with it.

huri
03-31-2014, 10:03 AM
A man sees what he wants to see ;)

TurboZ
03-31-2014, 10:22 AM
It is from German Open 2014 but not final. Sponge colour is real hard to spot with thick side tape covering up everything.

Dan
03-31-2014, 11:06 AM
I noticed Dima switching rubbers on smashing to. Richard Prause when commentating said Ovtcharov is doing this because he is likely finding his backhand runner faster and harder.

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SquareBall
03-31-2014, 11:18 AM
True that , I also heard the commentator talking about rubber and dima changing . I feel shame. To tell but I thought he meant he changed bat

Anders
03-31-2014, 11:41 AM
If you also look closely on his forehand technique, you can see it has changed a bit, maybe an adapt to a new rubber?

Anders
03-31-2014, 11:43 AM
A man sees what he wants to see ;)

Hahaha, it's possible :p

But seriously, I am sure I saw a blue sponge..

TurboZ
03-31-2014, 12:46 PM
Got any time stamp of video link or capture to share? I can see he was still using Tenergy in the semi 1 day before final. Really can't imagine anyone on that level will change to a totally new FH rubber just for the final game.
5690
You are not saying the sponge on this pic is blue, are you?

Martin Dorrego
03-31-2014, 03:30 PM
dima use use "Donic Dima Ultra Carbon" and tenergy 05 on both sides
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Kalim
03-31-2014, 04:25 PM
Dima use Donic Waldner Senso Carbon?

Alborz
03-31-2014, 05:24 PM
dima use use "Donic Dima Ultra Carbon" and tenergy 05 on both sides
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There is no blue sponge rubber on his forehand. Andres, i think you didn't saw that rubber correctly :)

Martin Dorrego
03-31-2014, 09:31 PM
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dimitrij ovtcharov blade: "donic dima ultra carbon"

Martin Dorrego
03-31-2014, 09:31 PM
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al3ash8
03-31-2014, 09:58 PM
dima use use "Donic Dima Ultra Carbon" and tenergy 05 on both sides
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both sides tenergy 05 ? i don't think so because when he want smash he switched to red side that's mean they are not same rubber , right ?

Martin Dorrego
04-01-2014, 02:08 AM
both sides tenergy 05 ? i don't think so because when he want smash he switched to red side that's mean they are not same rubber , right ?

Yes dima use tenergy 05 on both sides, for me he change the rubber to smash because, dima use booster

maze71
04-01-2014, 05:27 AM
I saw the blue sponge too, no doubt about it. I think it was in the semi vs Apolonia

TurboZ
04-01-2014, 05:52 AM
I saw the blue sponge too, no doubt about it. I think it was in the semi vs Apolonia

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The pic I post is from the semi with Apolonia. You can see the pattern of Tenergy. Any pic to support what you see ?

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maze71
04-01-2014, 06:04 AM
I recorded some of the match, will check it

maze71
04-01-2014, 06:37 AM
Can't believe it's not showing in my recordings, damn TiVo boxes. Will have a proper check later in deleted items.

Anders
04-01-2014, 07:38 AM
dima use use "Donic Dima Ultra Carbon" and tenergy 05 on both sides
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Yep, that's the one I saw, must have been a mistake from me not seeing the red tenergy sponge, it's a bit hard when wathcing the actual match, not photos :) Anyway, it created a nice discussion in here haha

massa
04-01-2014, 08:39 AM
off-thread, whe he serves with his BH the ball goes under the table...

Alborz
04-01-2014, 05:12 PM
off-thread, whe he serves with his BH the ball goes under the table...
No, it doesn't. He holds the ball exactly at the level of the table and then toss it. If the balls goes under the table then umpire will notice it and the serve will be fault.

maze71
04-01-2014, 09:03 PM
Ok I watched the recording I had of the final, which had found it's way into the deleted folder - no close ups of Dima's bat like I recall, so it was definitely in the semi vs Apolonia, which I didn't record I just watched a bit of it before going out. If the recording is on ittv I'll have a look at some point. The close upI watched showed Dima's bat near the handle where there's no tape covering the blade. It's either that or one of the ladies finalists who must be using the blue sponged rubber?

massa
04-02-2014, 08:04 AM
@ Alborz you can see it even in this thread's post #15 :p

Alborz
04-02-2014, 09:05 AM
@ Alborz you can see it even in this thread's post #15 :p
So that serve is illegal :)

massa
04-02-2014, 11:36 AM
He does it many times...

SquareBall
04-02-2014, 12:07 PM
There many illegal serves.. Just think of the serves that ball isnt vertically thrown, or not 16 cm high, or ball hidden by the server's body. But ittf isn't that strict on this aspects obviously.

Alborz
04-02-2014, 02:18 PM
There many illegal serves.. Just think of the serves that ball isnt vertically thrown, or not 16 cm high, or ball hidden by the server's body. But ittf isn't that strict on this aspects obviously.Agree with you. For example Xu Xin always hide the ball with his shoulder and Zhang Jike doesn't toss the ball vertically. But they still not get so much advantage by doing these.

maze71
04-03-2014, 05:19 AM
Ok I watched the recording I had of the final, which had found it's way into the deleted folder - no close ups of Dima's bat like I recall, so it was definitely in the semi vs Apolonia, which I didn't record I just watched a bit of it before going out. If the recording is on ittv I'll have a look at some point. The close upI watched showed Dima's bat near the handle where there's no tape covering the blade. It's either that or one of the ladies finalists who must be using the blue sponged rubber?

I've now checked the women's final I recorded and no bat close ups of the kind as recalled. Shan is a SP penholder, Seo a defender and no sign of the mystery blue sponge rubber which just leaves the Ovtcharov-Apolonia semi which I'll need to watch on ittv

update:
Just reviewed the semi - Ovtcharov has Tenergy with Orange Sponge both sides. I must have been dreaming............