What's a Kicker serve?!

Mezmer · Oct 24, 2010

Hi Dan,

Wow! Awesomeness, you run some great resources for TT.

I posted this on your Youtube channel, but I keep hearing about kicker serves on Eurosport and can't find anything on google.

So as the title says my question is what's a kicker serve?'

I'm presuming it's a topspin that kicks forward?

Cheers,

Shaun

char987 · Oct 24, 2010

i never heard that term used but i guess just a heavy topspin serve

Dan · Oct 24, 2010

Yeh its a heavy top spin serve that kicks as it bounces.. A good example.. one of the best kicker servers is probably Gavin Rumgay, Youtube him and watch some of his topspin serve. They kick.. i have played him on an occasion and it kicked over my bat as i was about to flick it!! or you top edge it and completely miss your rubber... hope this helps

Dan

BTW thanks for the positive comments about my content and site... i hope you like the chat box on the main forum screen. Its a new feature

char987 · Oct 24, 2010

ye i like it but its annoying not showing your text of what u typed

Dan · Oct 25, 2010

yeah its weird not to sure why it does that

Mezmer · Oct 25, 2010

Nice! I will check him out and then get to work : )

Dan · Oct 25, 2010

Mezmer said:
Nice! I will check him out and then get to work : )

Let me know what you think

david.tomas.nilsson · Oct 27, 2010

Gavin now play in the highest league in Sweden, I think stats are like 0-5 or something

Barrow TTC · Oct 27, 2010

david.tomas.nilsson said:
Gavin now play in the highest league in Sweden, I think stats are like 0-5 or something

Gavin has put up his Swedish results on his website, not sure how up to date they are. Looks like he pushed Jon Persson close, but like you say he hasn't won any.

He does say that he won 23/33 when playing for Immo Mortsel last season in the Belgian league (his team got to the final of the Belgian Super-League).

char987 · Oct 27, 2010

how much games did he win in Belgian league?

Mezmer · Oct 28, 2010

char987 said:
how much games did he win in Belgian league?

22 out of 33 by the looks of it - "23/33 when playing for Immo Mortsel last season in the Belgian league"

david.tomas.nilsson · Nov 10, 2010

Rumgay just won his first match in swedish league... against Xu Hui (he has beaten Wang Hao!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOmNtJkJvf8

Dan · Nov 10, 2010

david.tomas.nilsson said:
Rumgay just won his first match in swedish league... against Xu Hui (he has beaten Wang Hao!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOmNtJkJvf8

Yes! fantastic win!! I spoke to him,, he said his counter forehand was going amazing

cant wait to watch the vid

jkc · Nov 10, 2010

A kicker tends to be a topspin serve which is done with a backspin type action. Players who get the most deception from this serve tend to hide the slight lift of the bat on contact (which gives the topspin) behind their shoulder. The ETTA have a vid of Gavin Evans doing this serve with slow-mo which I have seen on a coaching course. Quite a few Drumchapel players use this serve a lot which I suspect they have learned from Gavin Rumgay.

Dan · Nov 13, 2010

Watch from 4.32 on this video,, a perfect demonstration of the kicker serve from Kong Linqui

Mezmer · Nov 13, 2010

Dan said:
Watch from 4.32 on this video,, a perfect demonstration of the kicker serve from Kong Linqui

That's great, cheers Dan! That is an amazing video!!!

jkc · Nov 13, 2010

To me, the kicker serve is done with more of a tomahawk action. The one in the vid will no doubt kick, but the true kicker is served with a backspin action and it is this deception as much as the topspin which causes the problems.

Atomichaos · Nov 14, 2010

IMo a kicker serve is a good mixture of all the spins but mostly side and top. itll seem slow at first which makes it look like backspin then itll kick and speed up rapidly

Dan · Nov 14, 2010

jkc said:
To me, the kicker serve is done with more of a tomahawk action. The one in the vid will no doubt kick, but the true kicker is served with a backspin action and it is this deception as much as the topspin which causes the problems.

Very true, there needs to be deception to produce a good kicker serve,, just this vieo demonstrates the action to make a kicker serve from the backhand side doing a forehand serve.. If kong Lingqui does this serve, then brings his bat down straight away under the table it would be a lot more deceptive

jkc · Nov 14, 2010

ITTF TV Polish open Womens doubles final 10:28 and 31:08 are good examples.

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