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cjordan-t64
05-01-2011, 08:07 PM
tenergy 64 or xiom omega 4....and if xiom omega 4... wich, pro, asia, or euro!!!

Matt Hetherington
05-02-2011, 03:07 AM
take Xiom of any kind, I don't rate tenergy it has no feeling at all I think the world just got brand crazed with it, there's so much better rubber out there.

azlan
05-02-2011, 08:46 AM
I have to agree with pingpongpom, plus these are two very different rubbers. Xiom has bigger window, which means bigger margin of errors. And xiom accommodates best for players close to mid table.

Tenergy64 on the other hand has a lower trajectory and its for players who like to attack from mid to beyond. Its closer to Stiga Boosts that I am using on my FH at the moment. It does't allow any errors and not forgiving. And I use Xiom Vega Pro for my BH.

kaikaz
05-02-2011, 11:24 AM
Xiom of course. Price is lower, spin is the same or even more, you feel the ball better than with tenergy (bigger window like someone said).

I play with xiom omega 4 europe on backhand.

I played with xiom vega elite on FH and switched to xiom omega 4 europe. Vega elite has less spin and is a little softer, I like the europe the best.

TTOski
05-03-2011, 12:49 PM
I prefer the Tengergy, but the Xiom rubber is'nt bad at all!

zookato
05-04-2011, 02:02 PM
Tengergy , 05 the best, and most Eruption players use it, but it's expensive.

YosuaYosan
05-04-2011, 09:12 PM
Xiom ftw :D

gus-13
11-27-2011, 08:19 PM
of course xiom omega 4. tenergy 64 has got no control an its price is high

Anders
11-27-2011, 08:36 PM
T64 is the best for me... But actually, I would try some other rubbers to ;) for example, the STIGA Calibras or the Cornilleau Pulse rubbers are good :)

PlasmaLight
11-28-2011, 09:04 AM
i will try the xiom sigma europe soon :)

WiWa
11-28-2011, 09:19 AM
Xiom Vega Pro! That's what I use, but I haven't tried the new Xiom family yet, maybe they are even better. But their price is getting kinda high as well I believe. But the Vega Pro is a good, durable rubber for a decent price.

Bryce
11-28-2011, 11:45 AM
I heard that the xiom omega iv series is a very good substitute for tenergy or even better...

PlasmaLight
11-28-2011, 12:03 PM
I heard that the xiom omega iv series is a very good substitute for tenergy or even better...

i played with both. and i feel no big difference. i played with tenergy 05fx, 05 and 64. i liked the 05fx most. and i played with omega asia, europe and sigma europe. and the sigma europe is the best of all, i think ;)

Bryce
11-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Yea but xiom prices are definitely better than butterfly

tenergy05.com
12-04-2011, 11:47 PM
I bought a sheet of xiom omega 4 euro - and yeah it is fast - it feels faster than all the tenergy I have tried. It has a low throw angle and doesn't grip as easily. I think it is much harder to use than any of the tenergy. It does however if you liked the euro style rubbers feel like it has the power from a distance that speed glue once gave us. If your a flatter hitter near the table it also beats the tenergy, but if you are a looper and have the money tenergy.

james
12-14-2011, 04:56 PM
I would definitely recommend using Xiom rubbers. I use Omega IV Pro on forehand and Pro Euro on the backhand and they are better than Tenergy.

Mr. RicharD
12-14-2011, 08:04 PM
I've never tried Xiom rubbers, but I will be doing so soon. As far as Tenergy 64 it's got great control if you use the right sponge for you. I've tried 1.9 and 2.1. 1.9 is what Joo uses and since he's a defender it's got fantastic control and yet is a good attacking rubber as well. 2.1 is best for someone who still wants a little bit of control on their block, but also likes to attack the service for 2nd ball attacks. Max is where everyone can lost control at, but with the right technique and practice no rubber can't be controlled. Blades are a huge issue as well. The less flexible the blade the less control you will have and thus making Tenergy or any rubber out there have less control. With Tenergy 64 I recommend anything from ALL - to OFF, but nothing above that if you don't want to lose the control of your block.

wilfred888
12-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Well I'd go for Xiom, but then it really depends on what kind of player you are as to whether you suit asia, euro or pro. However IIRC Omega IV Pro is the softest?

Mr. RicharD
12-14-2011, 10:27 PM
Speaking of Asia Pro and Europe Pro what's the difference. Can anyone verify this?

Ovtcharov
12-14-2011, 11:25 PM
I have been using the Xiom Omega Europe (on my spare blade) for a few weeks now and I'm not sure whether it's better then Tenergy. Nevertheless it's a worthy substitute but i'm not blown away of it's performances.

I guess I'm just going to stick with Tenergy after all. Huge plus for Xiom is that it's a lot cheaper anyway. By the way anyone knows how the durability of Xiom is compared with Tenergy?

wilfred888
12-15-2011, 08:29 AM
I've used Tenergy 05 and Xiom Omega III, and I found the spinniness of Omega lasted longer and overall performance was better.

Ash
12-15-2011, 12:19 PM
I've heard good things about the Xiom family, but most loopers love tenergy once they get used to it! Its especially good for backhand looping!

WiWa
12-15-2011, 12:33 PM
I've used Tenergy 25, 05 and 64. I liked the 05 on my backhand, but for the rest I've never been crazy about any of them. But that is probably because I compared them to speed glued rubbers :P

leedeyuan2
12-15-2011, 01:41 PM
Use Tenergy! i feel that it is much more better than XIOM. if u prefer bouncy rubbers try XIOM but if u prefer tensor rubbers, try Tenergy,

wilfred888
12-17-2011, 08:26 AM
On my sheet of Omega IV it says it's a BIOS Tensor.

n8stee
10-14-2013, 11:37 PM
Xiom omega asia is good, almost same exact feel as tenergy... Starting to think that xiom and butterfly know each others secrets :confused:.. Anyway Xiom rubber very good and less price.. on TTnPP you can get xiom sigma 2 for 35USD!!!!

HLDang
10-15-2013, 03:24 AM
Just wondering... what Xiom would be closest to T05-FX... I'm not ready for a replacement yet, but I like to know my options as I have always considered Xiom if I didn't have the money for another sheet of Tenergy.

y.thanapatcharoen
10-15-2013, 04:03 AM
If you doesn't mind about the price tenergy have their own feel but Xiom is not that specific but it's also a good one.

Tony's Table Tennis
10-15-2013, 12:13 PM
I feel Xiom has made great improvement these few years.
Xiom imo is might better than Tenergy
- much cheaper
- durability is similar
- more choice to suite your game/style

Tenergy is realy onlt doing well, because of Butterfly's market dominant.
Dominant doesn't mean good product, and that is why we can see so many brands taking business away from "monopoly" Tenergy.
Of course, you have many people that want to use Tenergy because of Butterfly logo. So if they call it Butterfly XYZ, those people will switch to XYZ too.

EricTian
10-16-2013, 10:43 AM
Xiom rubbers are also much lighter than the Tenergy series, at least the ones I've tried anyway.
I now have a sheet of Vega Europe and Omega IV Pro on a Stradivarius blade and it is 13g lighter than what it was before- with Tenergy 05, 05fx.

rferdianto
10-16-2013, 09:31 PM
Tenergy worth every penny for its performance / durability, my Xiom Sigma 2 Euro and Pro aren't bad rubbers but the durability makes me back to Tenergy.

Tony's Table Tennis
10-16-2013, 09:48 PM
Tenergy worth every penny for its performance / durability, my Xiom Sigma 2 Euro and Pro aren't bad rubbers but the durability makes me back to Tenergy.

Like to ask, how long does a Tenergy last you, vs your S2E?
and how many hours per week?

I feed a lot with my S2E (easily, 5 hours a week, min 5000 hits), going on for 10 months, and its starting to fade (colour) a bit, but I still feel it is powerful enough to continue using. I use Black side to feed.

Amayzde
10-18-2013, 05:51 PM
I used too play with Tenergy 64 on my backhand it was great for me but after all it was a little bit expensive and then I tried Xiom Vega Pro 2,2 mm to be honest when playing I did almost feel no difference at all. but there was one downside and that is the lag of spin on the rubber. When playing a fast backhand topspin my opponents usually block it over the table but instead they blocked it into the net.

Im trying Sriver G3-FX at the moment. Its great for flicking and initiate attacking with the backhand but for the second ball I feel like I have less controll than usual but I gues I still have to get used to the rubber because the sponge is softer than other rubbers I recently used.

Too sad I cant play now due injury :/

Brynhildr
07-22-2014, 04:06 PM
Tenergy is by far a better rubber. I have used xiom omega 3 and omega 4 for about a year and switched to t05 and t64. Tenergy gives you much better control for chopping, which, in my view, is a significant weak point of the omega series. It also returns the ball faster when blocking. When you flip with bh, you definitely get more power.
The only thing is that you need some time to get used to it, especially if you are used to omega series. My impression is for omega seires, the larger your arm swing, the more spin and power you will get. However, with tenergy, you need only small, fast movement to generate power and spin. I took me about half a year to get used to it.


tenergy 64 or xiom omega 4....and if xiom omega 4... wich, pro, asia, or euro!!!

Kera
07-22-2014, 04:49 PM
Tenergy... But be careful, maybe you want to reconsider your decision since 64 are really soft, maybe 05 will be a better choice!

Samer
07-23-2014, 02:25 PM
I have stayed loyal to Tenergy 05 for quite a while now, but I decided I needed a change. Did not want to go back to Tibhar's Nimbus so I decided a step in between is the best choice, so I got the Giant Dragons posted on the left.
In my opinion, Tenergy is an excellent rubber for your blade but is rather expensive compared to the Xiom.
I'm gonna stick with Tenergy if you have the financial means (not that it's THAT expensive, just saying).

Regards

Rik Van Dyck
07-23-2014, 02:40 PM
Tenergy is best

Fanexxx
07-23-2014, 04:10 PM
From these options I would go with Tenergy. If you want a cheap rubber with good speed/spin consider also Rhyzm

titipmorne
07-25-2014, 08:53 AM
Let me tell you something... Yasaka Mark V... its awesome with a good fast carbon blade.. and a booster !!

no comparison wat so ever ..!! :D

roy
07-25-2014, 09:11 AM
tenergy 64

roudy
07-25-2014, 11:28 AM
xiom sigma 2 it`s a good choice, one of the guys at my club replaced his sigma pro with T05 and i tell you his top spins where allot more effective with xiom than the tenergy(wierd but it`s true). I also use sigma euro 2 on my fh... ball trajectory is long but doesnt go out also the ball tends to make oponents step back to play it.

Mugiwara no Luffy
07-25-2014, 12:12 PM
Tenergy ....

TtBosco
07-25-2014, 12:40 PM
Xiom Vega Power!

Houdini
07-27-2014, 10:36 PM
Xiom is better for me, but you have to try to know that is my opinion

1Ridwan
07-28-2014, 01:34 AM
i will chose tenergy :o

suhud
07-28-2014, 05:24 AM
Vote Tenergy (second hand not a brand new...lol)

LauraSmith
07-28-2014, 02:51 PM
Tenergy can offer more spin