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Maxwell Choi
08-06-2014, 05:27 AM
Hey guys, have you ever wondered if there could be a suitable alternative for Tenergy for a lower price yet possesses similar speed, control and spin? Rasant is the answer. But it isn't just the BEST alternative for Tenergy, it is better than Tenergy. I will explain further and I will do some tests with Rasant on my Infinity VPS blade later. Well, I've tried the setup and it works amazingly on my backhand and even my friends say that my backhand is more lethal than before. I could do some Fan Zhendong/Zhang Jike backhand flicks easily with no effort as well as some strong backhand drives and backhand topspins against backspins. If you're looking for a rubber cheaper and better than Tenergy, ANDRO RASANT is your FIRST choice!

MDanielCRO
08-06-2014, 09:08 PM
Hey guys, have you ever wondered if there could be a suitable alternative for Tenergy for a lower price yet possesses similar speed, control and spin? Rasant is the answer. But it isn't just the BEST alternative for Tenergy, it is better than Tenergy. I will explain further and I will do some tests with Rasant on my Infinity VPS blade later. Well, I've tried the setup and it works amazingly on my backhand and even my friends say that my backhand is more lethal than before. I could do some Fan Zhendong/Zhang Jike backhand flicks easily with no effort as well as some strong backhand drives and backhand topspins against backspins. If you're looking for a rubber cheaper and better than Tenergy, ANDRO RASANT is your FIRST choice!

This sounds like an advertisiment for Andro, haha! We all now what is Rasant, just on of the good ESN products. But never close to the tenergy in terms of durability and quality. I have played for whole season with different ESN tensor rubbers, and I liked them all, but only first 2 weeks of play. This summer I finally got back to tenergy and I don't think I will ever move from it. The price is the real problem but, you get what you pay for!! It comes almost the same if you buy one pair of tenergy and it lasts let's say 2 months, or pair of Rasant that will last one month or little more. Depends on your level and how much do you play.

elrigo99
08-06-2014, 10:13 PM
This sounds like an advertisiment for Andro, haha! We all now what is Rasant, just on of the good ESN products. But never close to the tenergy in terms of durability and quality. I have played for whole season with different ESN tensor rubbers, and I liked them all, but only first 2 weeks of play. This summer I finally got back to tenergy and I don't think I will ever move from it. The price is the real problem but, you get what you pay for!! It comes almost the same if you buy one pair of tenergy and it lasts let's say 2 months, or pair of Rasant that will last one month or little more. Depends on your level and how much do you play.

Totally agree. I was very skeptical about Tenergy's price too, but in the end, you pay 10€ more than what you'd pay for, let's say, a Rasant.

agold
08-06-2014, 10:28 PM
Totally agree. I was very skeptical about Tenergy's price too, but in the end, you pay 10€ more than what you'd pay for, let's say, a Rasant.

In the US it's more like 20€ :(. If the were not a huge marketing company it would be affordable. I think there are tons of people that would like Tenergy 10€ lower and would buy it at that when they otherwise wouldn't that butterfly would make a long term profit from lowering the price a little.

guitch
08-06-2014, 10:42 PM
I've tryed both... maybe it is up to the type of play but I really hated Tenergy 05 and Tenergy 64.
Not spin on the serve (I am a very good server), too dynamique in short game and small topspin, heavy rubber, and just no power for heavy strokes.
even with an old Mark V I got better spin and same speed....

I know I might be an exeption but ... I got much better rusults with Blue fire and Rasant.

I realy think it change from a player to an other...

agold
08-07-2014, 01:31 AM
@guitch what do you think of rasant grip? can you give us a short review? Thanks a lot

Der_Echte
08-07-2014, 01:52 AM
There is still not another rubberlike T05 yet, but the price is WAY too high for a rubber that plays at 80% after three weeks and goes downhill in a hurry. I moved on to Aurus and Evolution and do not regret it. Rasant on the right blade will play well too, but I cannot get Rasant so cheap like I can Aurus.

Maxwell Choi
08-07-2014, 06:00 AM
Rasant one of the best rubbers that I have tried including Bluefire, Baracuda, Acuda and Tenergy. On a flex blade, Rasant performs a lot better! At first I thought Rasant was just a "normal" ESN rubber but when I got my first shot with it, it was like paradise ......

Maxwell Choi
08-07-2014, 06:01 AM
I agree with agold, can guitch give a review of rasant grip or stiga calibra tour M on the infinity?

guitch
08-07-2014, 10:20 AM
sure! I'll do that tonight! :)

guitch
08-07-2014, 12:03 PM
ok I got time, so no need to wait:

Review Rasant Grip 2.1mm black on Stiga infinity blade:

- During warm up: (I got it on forehand) the harness feels like 45° same as Blue Fire M2.
- Despite the fact the Stiga infinity is a really stiff blade the Rasant Grip feels like being between 42° to 45° hardness when topspining, probably due to the topsheet. I am able to put a lot of spin either in slow very spiny first topspin or 2m from table for a power shots.
- Counter topspin: I feel like it is very easy to do without a lot of effort, the rubber is very dynamic.
- First slow spinning topspin: to me it is the best rubber I’ve used for this. Many times the point is done after this first topspin.
- Blocking: anyway FH block is not my strong point. I prefer doing a small counter topspin than a bloc. I feel like it is quite hard to block the ball without taking spin from the opponent! Many points lost on this!
- Serves: no problem to perform all type of serves, with a lot of spin, or without.
- Short play: good behavior not much errors.

To compare with what I had previously (Donic Blue fire M2) it feels a little bit softer (than announced) when using topspin, generally faster, control is a better when attacking. I feel hard to block spiny topspin in forehand if I am not going for a counter.

I will not compare to Tenergy as I got problems to play with, like the angle is too high for me, and feel like I can not input lot of spin but trajectories are very curved, but not the case for other player hahaha!! Many be I should try a thinner version like 1.9mm?


Review Stiga Calibra tour M 2.1mm red on Stiga infinity blade:

- During warm up: (I got it on backhand) the harness feels like 40°- 42°. And gives a good security feeling.
- Topspin: feel easy to spin the ball either for the first topspin or far from table. Really great when to grab the ball on the top part of the blade, you get a very spinning and powerful topspin.
- Counter topspin: I feel like it is very easy to do, or punch through the ball aggressively (afourite shot!)
- First slow spinning topspin: great comfort!
- Blocking: really great! I love it!
- Serves: no problem to perform all type of serves, with a lot of spin, or without.
- Short play: good behavior not much errors.

Really good security feeling and lots of power when playing harder.
To me it is not as fast as the official quote. May be a little bit less than Rasant grip (not much) but different feeling, more security. I could also use it in forehand, but I like the feeling of Rasant Grip when spinning the ball and driving power shot in forehand. When using it in Forehand, my poor blocks are much better.

A video would be better, but I am away from home at the moment.. may be in september if I got time, and Iif I dont forget :rolleyes:

agold
08-07-2014, 02:49 PM
ok I got time, so no need to wait:

Review Rasant Grip 2.1mm black on Stiga infinity blade:

- During warm up: (I got it on forehand) the harness feels like 45° same as Blue Fire M2.
- Despite the fact the Stiga infinity is a really stiff blade the Rasant Grip feels like being between 42° to 45° hardness when topspining, probably due to the topsheet. I am able to put a lot of spin either in slow very spiny first topspin or 2m from table for a power shots.
- Counter topspin: I feel like it is very easy to do without a lot of effort, the rubber is very dynamic.
- First slow spinning topspin: to me it is the best rubber I’ve used for this. Many times the point is done after this first topspin.
- Blocking: anyway FH block is not my strong point. I prefer doing a small counter topspin than a bloc. I feel like it is quite hard to block the ball without taking spin from the opponent! Many points lost on this!
- Serves: no problem to perform all type of serves, with a lot of spin, or without.
- Short play: good behavior not much errors.

To compare with what I had previously (Donic Blue fire M2) it feels a little bit softer (than announced) when using topspin, generally faster, control is a better when attacking. I feel hard to block spiny topspin in forehand if I am not going for a counter.

I will not compare to Tenergy as I got problems to play with, like the angle is too high for me, and feel like I can not input lot of spin but trajectories are very curved, but not the case for other player hahaha!! Many be I should try a thinner version like 1.9mm?


Review Stiga Calibra tour M 2.1mm red on Stiga infinity blade:

- During warm up: (I got it on backhand) the harness feels like 40°- 42°. And gives a good security feeling.
- Topspin: feel easy to spin the ball either for the first topspin or far from table. Really great when to grab the ball on the top part of the blade, you get a very spinning and powerful topspin.
- Counter topspin: I feel like it is very easy to do, or punch through the ball aggressively (afourite shot!)
- First slow spinning topspin: great comfort!
- Blocking: really great! I love it!
- Serves: no problem to perform all type of serves, with a lot of spin, or without.
- Short play: good behavior not much errors.

Really good security feeling and lots of power when playing harder.
To me it is not as fast as the official quote. May be a little bit less than Rasant grip (not much) but different feeling, more security. I could also use it in forehand, but I like the feeling of Rasant Grip when spinning the ball and driving power shot in forehand. When using it in Forehand, my poor blocks are much better.

A video would be better, but I am away from home at the moment.. may be in september if I got time, and Iif I dont forget :rolleyes:

Thanks a lot! How do you think it would be on backhand and what is your blade?

agold
08-07-2014, 02:53 PM
Hey guys, have you ever wondered if there could be a suitable alternative for Tenergy for a lower price yet possesses similar speed, control and spin? Rasant is the answer. But it isn't just the BEST alternative for Tenergy, it is better than Tenergy. I will explain further and I will do some tests with Rasant on my Infinity VPS blade later. Well, I've tried the setup and it works amazingly on my backhand and even my friends say that my backhand is more lethal than before. I could do some Fan Zhendong/Zhang Jike backhand flicks easily with no effort as well as some strong backhand drives and backhand topspins against backspins. If you're looking for a rubber cheaper and better than Tenergy, ANDRO RASANT is your FIRST choice!

I don't mean this as an insult at all or even a challenge, so I'm sorry if it comes out like that. I'm just wondering, I have watched a video of yours (nice job!) and I'm wondering: have you ever ha a real Tenergy or only fake ones? Because if it is a fake Tenergy then why is there a good comparison? It's not fair to Tenergy.

guitch
08-07-2014, 05:15 PM
Rasant Grip on the backside will be too dynamic for me, specially in blocking and punch.
As far as I am concerned all the sponged rubber I've tryed was good for my forehand but not for my backhand. I am just talking about feeling.

Regarding Tenergy, I shoud try again on the Infinity as when I did my try it was on a fexible wood. but 60euros for a try ;) hahaha... I prefer to borrow my firends blade. I have to say that I am hearing many good feed back from tenergy series (exept price and weight) and feel a bit upset to have a so different view ;)

Der_Echte
08-07-2014, 08:50 PM
Abe, if I run into you, I'll cough up a new sheet of good ole XP 2008 in whatever color you like in 2.2 to tryout. If you see my play with that thing, you will not know it is a $8 USD rubber on BH wing. It does it all with control and nothing spectacular, that is what we want out of our BH wing - control. We dream of the pro level stuff on our BH for the future. However, our FH is a LOT more dynamic on the move and we desire correctly a really good suitable modern rubber. Rasant on the right blade isn't a bad choice at all.

I ought to be in NYC on Labor day weekend. I will likely meet forum friends from this forum (the great and only UPSIDE Dn Carl hisself) and others (like PP Holic from MyTT, maybe Shayne or anyone else NYC based) Last year, the Korean American tourney was at some Korean church in Flushing. I should be in NYC Friday or Saturday and will surely hit it up at a NYC club, Carl can scout it out for me. Maybe I'll post a thread in the forums like I do when I go to Boston (MyTT). Maybe I'll cough up an extra 896 with XP on BH for you to hit with.

agold
08-07-2014, 09:54 PM
Abe, if I run into you, I'll cough up a new sheet of good ole XP 2008 in whatever color you like in 2.2 to tryout. If you see my play with that thing, you will not know it is a $8 USD rubber on BH wing. It does it all with control and nothing spectacular, that is what we want out of our BH wing - control. We dream of the pro level stuff on our BH for the future. However, our FH is a LOT more dynamic on the move and we desire correctly a really good suitable modern rubber. Rasant on the right blade isn't a bad choice at all.

I ought to be in NYC on Labor day weekend. I will likely meet forum friends from this forum (the great and only UPSIDE Dn Carl hisself) and others (like PP Holic from MyTT, maybe Shayne or anyone else NYC based) Last year, the Korean American tourney was at some Korean church in Flushing. I should be in NYC Friday or Saturday and will surely hit it up at a NYC club, Carl can scout it out for me. Maybe I'll post a thread in the forums like I do when I go to Boston (MyTT). Maybe I'll cough up an extra 896 with XP on BH for you to hit with.

Haha you're right maybe I am overthinking and overpaying I think you mean that I don't need 50 dollar equiptment and it doesn't make the player. I will order something cheaper. Thanks a lot for advice. As usual, you have helped a lot :)

Der_Echte
08-07-2014, 10:11 PM
I COULD be saying that too, but what I always say is to try stuff out yourself for free when you can and see what works for YOU. Reviews help and if they are structured with relevant information (like Dan's reviews) can provide some insight, but NOTHING is a substitute for trying it yourself. We all do not have enough money or time to buy everything under the sun, but should be looking for chances to what is out there when someone has some equipment handy you never used.

Der_Echte
08-07-2014, 10:18 PM
To go back to your first line...

896 Blade: $15-$16 USD (at colestt.com and nexy.com and eacheng.net)

FH: Aurus new $34.50 USD (at Nexy.com)

BH: XP 2008 $8 USD (at colestt.com)

Cost Total new bat complete... just under $60, which is just under the price of one sheet of premium modern rubber.

elrigo99
08-08-2014, 01:21 AM
Last month I wrote an email to Butterfly complaining about prices lol but I still haven't received an answer and I highly doubt I will. Anyways, Tenergy isn't the best rubber. There is no such thing as a best rubber, it all depends on your game. You can find yourself more confortable with Tenergy just as you can find yourself more comfortable with an XP 2008. It is just a sure bet, when you buy it, in 90% of the cases you know you'll find yourself well. I'll stick with it for this year but when next summer comes I'll have to try some other rubbers out (budget permitting), such as Rakza or Baracuda. In most of the cases there will be another combo you find more comfortable with and it doesn't depend on the price, if you play better with a 20$ Aurus there's no reason to buy a 70$ Tenergy.

bachikho
08-08-2014, 09:34 AM
you can try Yinhe Moon Pro or Mars V2 boosted instead of tenergy :)

rhonis
08-08-2014, 11:54 AM
Last month I wrote an email to Butterfly complaining about prices lol but I still haven't received an answer and I highly doubt I will. Anyways, Tenergy isn't the best rubber. There is no such thing as a best rubber, it all depends on your game. You can find yourself more confortable with Tenergy just as you can find yourself more comfortable with an XP 2008. It is just a sure bet, when you buy it, in 90% of the cases you know you'll find yourself well. I'll stick with it for this year but when next summer comes I'll have to try some other rubbers out (budget permitting), such as Rakza or Baracuda. In most of the cases there will be another combo you find more comfortable with and it doesn't depend on the price, if you play better with a 20$ Aurus there's no reason to buy a 70$ Tenergy.
I played with baracuda. It was so crap. I now play with rasant powersponge, it is so good [emoji3].

Maxwell Choi
04-15-2015, 02:47 PM
What's the difference between Rasant and Rasant Grip (in terms of speed)?

Flash Gordon
04-16-2015, 11:24 AM
i would try rasant grip.

Tompa8888
04-16-2015, 12:58 PM
Hey guys, have you ever wondered if there could be a suitable alternative for Tenergy for a lower price yet possesses similar speed, control and spin? Rasant is the answer. But it isn't just the BEST alternative for Tenergy, it is better than Tenergy. I will explain further and I will do some tests with Rasant on my Infinity VPS blade later. Well, I've tried the setup and it works amazingly on my backhand and even my friends say that my backhand is more lethal than before. I could do some Fan Zhendong/Zhang Jike backhand flicks easily with no effort as well as some strong backhand drives and backhand topspins against backspins. If you're looking for a rubber cheaper and better than Tenergy, ANDRO RASANT is your FIRST choice!


You should try Donic Bluefire M1 Turbo or JP 01 Turbo. I think its better than tenergy! Also the new P1 might be even better than all of them! :P

raazzz
04-16-2015, 03:04 PM
Sounds like you are trying to selling me the rubber haha! I have only tried it once and thought it was okay, even thought Tenergy is a bit expensive, the durability and quality is much better IMO. If Andro was paradise like you wrote why are not the pros playing with it?

raazzz
04-16-2015, 03:09 PM
Last month I wrote an email to Butterfly complaining about prices lol but I still haven't received an answer and I highly doubt I will. Anyways, Tenergy isn't the best rubber. There is no such thing as a best rubber, it all depends on your game. You can find yourself more confortable with Tenergy just as you can find yourself more comfortable with an XP 2008. It is just a sure bet, when you buy it, in 90% of the cases you know you'll find yourself well. I'll stick with it for this year but when next summer comes I'll have to try some other rubbers out (budget permitting), such as Rakza or Baracuda. In most of the cases there will be another combo you find more comfortable with and it doesn't depend on the price, if you play better with a 20$ Aurus there's no reason to buy a 70$ Tenergy.

Haha what do you think they would answer? Sorry mate we will lower our prices in the future? :D Really agree with you that there issn't any best rubber, everything is so individual. I think the mix between rubber and blade is the most important when it comes to the equipment, to find a good match! :)

qvoliszz
04-17-2015, 12:29 PM
Yepp!
First thing is the properties of the Rubber and the Blade and the glue that you use. And after such material stuff there is you with you technique and style. Firstly I tried some Donic blades with Donic rubbers, then all butterfly blades nad they have a good feeling each, but different. So I got a glimpse on a good blade feeling for a looper/attacker blade how Donic and Butter imagine it. And when I mixed up some brands in many cases I fond some properties enhanced and some worsen, like feeling, speed, control, dynamic etc... Luckily there are some combos that actually work good. I have not found a really good blade to play JOOLA MAXXX 500 with, on butter W5 it resonated like a earthquake, could not engage the sponge, on Donic Waldner Senso Carbon it played very controlled, but there was no spin and lack of speed. But yesterday I paired it with Yinhe Venus 16 (Butter M. Maze clone) and it plays like a dream.

Killerspintt
04-17-2015, 12:44 PM
Issue with Tenergies is the durability and the price. After 4-6 weeks, the rubber lose all its dynamic, lose its "spring sponge", the rubber becomes deadly slow. T80 is even worse than T05 and T64 in terms of durability. Tenergy is a rubber meant to be tuned BTW, if you don't its quite slow and inert compares to Evolution/Bluefires/Whatever.....but untuned Tenergies are still a very good control rubbers (if you don't use booster on them) and this is why they are popular, even untuned, at amateur level......very good control, very good spin, for a quite slow speed.........and this is what most amateur players need.


If Andro was paradise like you wrote why are not the pros playing with it?

Rasant is used at pro level. I know some pro A, pro B players which are using it in France.
Here you can see that it is used at pro stage (german bundesliga) : http://www.mytischtennis.de/public/fotos/355/ndm-2015-die-schlaeger-der-deutschen-stars

qvoliszz
04-17-2015, 12:54 PM
Forgot to mention Xiom Omega and Vega series as good alternatives considering durability, speed and spin.

Killerspintt
04-17-2015, 01:08 PM
Forgot to mention Xiom Omega and Vega series as good alternatives considering durability, speed and spin.

Tuned Omega IV pro, tuned Evolution MX-P and tuned T05 are very very very similar rubbers. Once I tried a M. Maze tenergy (he gave it to a friend after a match at the euro-asia 2012.......even when I tune my T05, it doesn't reach this level of speed, catapult and eleasticity, rubber definitely not same as the commercial one.

hopper
04-17-2015, 04:06 PM
What about Rasant Grip/Power Grip vs Bluefire JP series?

TurboZ
04-17-2015, 04:53 PM
What about Rasant Grip/Power Grip vs Bluefire JP series?

I have Powergrip/Grip on one blade and JP01 Turbo/Airoc M on other. Airoc M is a bit behind in power. JP01 Turbo is a bit behind in control. The Andro pair is about right in every aspect especially the neutral throw. Yet Tenergy just got the distinctive soft sponge feel with power which Rasant is still behind but getting close.

raazzz
04-17-2015, 05:11 PM
Issue with Tenergies is the durability and the price. After 4-6 weeks, the rubber lose all its dynamic, lose its "spring sponge", the rubber becomes deadly slow. T80 is even worse than T05 and T64 in terms of durability. Tenergy is a rubber meant to be tuned BTW, if you don't its quite slow and inert compares to Evolution/Bluefires/Whatever.....but untuned Tenergies are still a very good control rubbers (if you don't use booster on them) and this is why they are popular, even untuned, at amateur level......very good control, very good spin, for a quite slow speed.........and this is what most amateur players need.



Rasant is used at pro level. I know some pro A, pro B players which are using it in France.
Here you can see that it is used at pro stage (german bundesliga) : http://www.mytischtennis.de/public/fotos/355/ndm-2015-die-schlaeger-der-deutschen-stars

Yes sorry of course some players use it (especially players sponsored by Andro), I only meant that if the rubber was as good as he claims, no one should use anything els. If you look at the pros playing with Tenergy compared to Rasant you will see a big difference. :) What I mean is that I have no problems with Maxwell choi thinking it's the best rubber in the world, I don't doubt it is for him. I just meant that how a rubber suits a player is very individual, and I thinks it's wrong to say that a rubber can be the best one for everyone.

Killerspintt
04-17-2015, 05:51 PM
Pros have special tenergies and tune them raazzz, there is NO pro player using untuned Tenergy, and from what I can see since 2007 and the introduction of Tenergy is that very very very few amateur players are bossting their Tenergies, so there is no point speaking about the pros préférences since they :

- have special tenergies unlike mass market tenergy,
- they tune their tenergies, unlike most amateurs players.

The characteristics of a tuned Tenergy are VERY FAR from an untuned one and in fact raazzzz, you should give a try to tuned Tenergy 05, untuned T05 and Rasant and answer this question :

- Is the untuned T05 playing closer to tuned T05 than untuned Rasant ?

And I'll tell you the result of my various tests since years and years : almost any untuned tensor rubber is playing closer to tuned T05 than untuned T05.
If there was absolutely NO USAGE of tuner at pro stage, NO pros would use them (far to slow compared to latest untuned Tensors), I have no problem saying that since I heard it from all pros and semi-pros players I have the chance to speak with (and most of them use Tenergies, even if sponsored by Stiga/Andro/Cornilleau....).

I have no problem with an advanced offensive player telling me that Rasant is better at everything compared to Tenergies, really......because its true, as long as you consider untuned rubber. Not true when you consider tuned T05 which remains, since 2007, the absolute benchmark.

An analogy, during speed glue era my rubber of choice was Bryce on FH and Bryce FX on BH, both speed glued of course. But if you were to ask me, in 2005 for example, which unglued rubber was playing the closer to my glued Bryces, there is NO WAY I would have said unglued Bryces, I would have easy found 15 rubbers playing closer to my glued Bryces than unglued Bryces (but still all those rubbers would have been miles away from glued Bryces).

Also, untuned Tenergies are so slow that they permit the usage of premium ultra fast blades such has Mizutani Jun, Photino, Super ZLC's........and at amateur level, when you use such blades, of course slow untuned Tenergies will suit you the best lol, faster tensors will be considered not controlable by most players. This is why I still continue to recommend them at my club, despite the price, because untuned they are very very good rubbers even for low level players.

And I myselft switched back to tuned T05 on FH, the season is finished and I wanna try it on various blades to chose a racket for next season. Tunning a T80 for my BH tests right at the moment :D
And I can already tell you that tuned T05 + carbonado 190 is very good combination, if you wonder :D

qvoliszz
04-20-2015, 08:26 AM
Well, if you know where to buy, you can buy "PRO" Tenergy for twice the price. Ofcourse you will get a certificate to it, that every Tenergy is equal, but this "Pro" is more equal for 110€/sheet.

Well I believe that all professional player's equipment is carefully seleted from the best batches of production, maybe some of them is not even the same product as you get in the shops.

raazzz
04-20-2015, 11:23 AM
Thanks for the explanation Killerspintt, guess I have to give Rasant another try ;) I have also like you guys heard that it's a very big difference from the pros Tenergys and the ones we can buy, would really like to try one of those "pro" Tenergys quoliszz but don't know of it's worth 110 euros for one sheet.

qvoliszz
04-20-2015, 02:49 PM
I personally won't buy tenergy because of the price, even the club I play is sponsored by Butterfly and the sheets are 25% discounted, but I can buy a pair of Donic, JOOLA and a bit less then a pair of Tibhar sheets for the same price. Xiom sheets cost 60% of a Tenergy. So in my case money tals... but Andro, TSP, Nittaku is not cheap here so I can not test them.

As far as I know you can order PRO Tenergy officially from the German Butterfly.

Cornel
04-20-2015, 03:16 PM
I personally won't buy tenergy because of the price, even the club I play is sponsored by Butterfly and the sheets are 25% discounted, but I can buy a pair of Donic, JOOLA and a bit less then a pair of Tibhar sheets for the same price. Xiom sheets cost 60% of a Tenergy. So in my case money tals... but Andro, TSP, Nittaku is not cheap here so I can not test them.

As far as I know you can order PRO Tenergy officially from the German Butterfly.

I have to agree that Donic rubbers are a very good alternative, I have tried all the Acuda range and almost all of the Bluefires. Acudas are very good in terms of durability, Bluefires are worse than the Acudas. Though I think that these rubbers are very good, they feel quite different from the Tenergy. The rubber that I found to be very similar to Tenergy, and even better, is the Xiom Sigma II Europe. It felt very similar to Tenergy but was better in the short game. I am seriously thinking to get a pair of these after my Acuda wear off. I am also waiting for the new Acuda Blue series to come out, because I think they will be great rubbers, but I also will need them to have a decent durability. Anyway, I am sure I won't pay 60 euros for a sheet of Tenergy...

Tompa8888
04-20-2015, 09:44 PM
I have to agree that Donic rubbers are a very good alternative, I have tried all the Acuda range and almost all of the Bluefires. Acudas are very good in terms of durability, Bluefires are worse than the Acudas. Though I think that these rubbers are very good, they feel quite different from the Tenergy. The rubber that I found to be very similar to Tenergy, and even better, is the Xiom Sigma II Europe. It felt very similar to Tenergy but was better in the short game. I am seriously thinking to get a pair of these after my Acuda wear off. I am also waiting for the new Acuda Blue series to come out, because I think they will be great rubbers, but I also will need them to have a decent durability. Anyway, I am sure I won't pay 60 euros for a sheet of Tenergy...

Which acuda did you use? S1 Turbo?

Cornel
04-21-2015, 07:35 PM
Which acuda did you use? S1 Turbo?

I am currently using Acuda S1 Turbo on forehand and S2 on backhand. Until this year I was using S1 on forehand.