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TableTennisDaily
11-06-2014, 11:07 AM
Hey everyone,

STIGA (https://www.facebook.com/stigatabletennis?fref=ts) have kindly invited TableTennisDaily to the Stiga Head Office where we have behind the scenes access to the STIGA Chinese National Table Tennis Team! The players include Xu Xin, Fan Zhendong, Yan An, Zhu Yuling, Chen Meng Guo yue and Liu Guoliang.

On my trip I will be interviewing the STIGA CEO Mats Bandstigen about the two new STIGA Carbon blades that will be released in January 2015. I am also going to make a review of these blades together with Xu XIn and Fan Zhedong. This review will be released in the middle of December 2014.

I will keep you updated with all the behind the scenes action that I manage to take!

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/xuxindan.jpg

I will also attend the Swedish Open together with STIGA where I will get lots of exciting footage.

Flash Gordon
11-06-2014, 12:10 PM
wow. i'm jellous on you now. it would be fantastic to meet these players. i hope also look forwad to see the review on the blades. good luck

Tony's Table Tennis
11-06-2014, 12:21 PM
The only time when CNT actually uses Stiga rubbers
hehehehe

okay sorry, I know i'm evil :p

raazzz
11-06-2014, 04:26 PM
Congratulations Dan! Awesome news, looking forward to the reviews!!

Pongfinity
11-06-2014, 05:10 PM
Awesome! Looking forward to the videos! :)

docbrown
11-06-2014, 05:28 PM
Wow! Really great news! Looking forward to the review of the new carbon blades!

STIGA has to be the most generous TT-Brand in the world!

mahomedy13
11-06-2014, 05:47 PM
wow.looking forward to those reviews.maybe you can get a few for TTD competitions:)

Giangt
11-06-2014, 09:24 PM
Good on you Dan! Looking forward to a good read when you return from Sweden.

Dan
11-11-2014, 05:59 AM
Wow! Really great news! Looking forward to the review of the new carbon blades!

STIGA has to be the most generous TT-Brand in the world!

Yes they are very generous. They do a lot for the tt community and understand how important everyone is. I hope to get some fantastic footage for you.


wow.looking forward to those reviews.maybe you can get a few for TTD competitions:)

Hey @mahomedy we will be getting some blades to review and to put in the upcoming TTD competitions :)


Good on you Dan! Looking forward to a good read when you return from Sweden.

Thanks Giangt ill keep you posted!

raazzz
11-11-2014, 01:36 PM
Really jealous! I hope you take a lot of pictures Dan! :D

Dan
11-11-2014, 05:44 PM
Just arrived at the STIGA HQ today! This place is incredible! I will be getting behind the scenes exclusive access to STIGA's latest Textreme blades and lots more for you all to see! Tomorrow I will make a review of these blades together with STIGA's Xu Xin and Fan Zhendong.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/landed2014stigahq.JPG

TableTennisNerd
11-11-2014, 05:54 PM
Just arrived at the STIGA HQ today! This place is incredible! I will be getting behind the scenes exclusive access to STIGA's latest Textreme blades and lots more for you all to see! Tomorrow I will make a review of these blades together with STIGA's Xu Xin and Fan Zhendong.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/landed2014stigahq.JPG
You have no idea how jealous I am. Looking forward to the reviews tho :)

Butt Stallion
11-11-2014, 06:07 PM
nice man, take AS MANY PICTURES YOU CAN DO!!!!

Tinykin
11-11-2014, 09:16 PM
I need some help with my backhand. Can you ask ZJK to pop over and give me a lesson?

Dan
11-11-2014, 09:27 PM
Hey everyone! So here are the publicity unnamed STIGA Carbon blades, myself, Xu Xin and Fan Zhendong will be reviewing them tomorrow!

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/stigatextremeblade.JPG

Thewimo
11-11-2014, 09:53 PM
Man i am so jealous of you meeting Fan Zhendong and Xu Xin :) Take some pictures with them too hehe [emoji106]
Can't wait to see the review of the new blades.

SpinQuark
11-11-2014, 10:07 PM
A nice looking pair ! What do the numbers mean ?

If I knocked with Xu Xin or Fan Zhendong I think I would wet myself.

chuklebolt
11-11-2014, 10:14 PM
the 190 one looks pretty thick.. i'd say almost 7mm at least? Keep up the good work Dan! :p

mcaibyz2
11-11-2014, 10:23 PM
I can see myself getting £100 poorer soon...

urbanzakapa
11-11-2014, 10:31 PM
can't wait for the review

1Ridwan
11-11-2014, 11:14 PM
please review cheap product for poor man that can compare to expensive branded product!,

KM1976
11-12-2014, 04:56 AM
All the best Dan. You are the guy!! Enjoy the moment and share your experiences. God Bless.

el gato
11-12-2014, 09:57 AM
Enjoy the moment!!!

SebaGO
11-12-2014, 05:59 PM
Woow! Enjoy this oportunity and maybe try to play a set with Fan Zhendong!! I'd love to see that footage hahaha

Der_Echte
11-12-2014, 07:36 PM
All I can say is... that is one kickin' azz bad-azz pic. Visiting Sweden is one great thing after another.

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mahomedy13
11-12-2014, 08:09 PM
Dan is 1 lucky person,no doubt!

mahomedy13
11-12-2014, 08:12 PM
looking forward to all his experiences

raazzz
11-12-2014, 09:44 PM
Looks really good! Can't wait for the review!

TableTennisDaily
11-12-2014, 11:02 PM
Behind the scenes at the STIGA Photo Shoot 2014!

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Douxbri
11-13-2014, 01:32 AM
Hey everyone,

STIGA (https://www.facebook.com/stigatabletennis?fref=ts) have kindly invited TableTennisDaily to the Stiga Head Office where we have behind the scenes access to the STIGA Chinese National Table Tennis Team! The players include Xu Xin, Fan Zhendong, Yan An, Zhu Yuling, Chen Meng Guo yue and Liu Guoliang.

On my trip I will be interviewing the STIGA CEO Mats Bandstigen about the two new STIGA Carbon blades that will be released in January 2015. I am also going to make a review of these blades together with Xu XIn and Fan Zhedong. This review will be released in the middle of December 2014.

I will keep you updated with all the behind the scenes action that I manage to take!

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/xuxindan.jpg

I will also attend the Swedish Open together with STIGA where I will get lots of exciting footage.

Lucky you!

Tony's Table Tennis
11-13-2014, 08:37 AM
I've becoming to think, the only reason why CNT takes part in Sweden open (over the recent years), is because of the annual Stiga shoots :p

raazzz
11-13-2014, 02:37 PM
I can see myself getting £100 poorer soon...

Haha same here.. but also two blades richer ;)

Dan
11-13-2014, 05:05 PM
All I can say is... that is one kickin' azz bad-azz pic. Visiting Sweden is one great thing after another.

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Haha! You are right the building is incredible! They are extending it next year aswell!

Tinykin
11-13-2014, 06:47 PM
Those lads really look good ready for a night on the town.

Dan
11-13-2014, 06:54 PM
Those lads really look good ready for a night on the town.

Haha! They were more than ready, they did some really funny stuff, should be awesome pictures when STIGA release. I am not to sure if their coaches will let them hit the town :D

mahomedy13
11-13-2014, 07:42 PM
Haha! They were more than ready, they did some really funny stuff, should be awesome pictures when STIGA release. I am not to sure if their coaches will let them hit the town :D

im just dying to ask,

What was your initial thoughts about the textreme carbon blades?Cant wait to hear about them.

Thewimo
11-13-2014, 08:39 PM
I don't know why, but i just love Xu Xin's smile *-* (No homo)
He is a really funny man...
As for Fan Zhendong, really a powerful beast ...
I am jealous, still...Dan keep up the good work (Y)

Flash Gordon
11-14-2014, 07:22 AM
awesome. generous of stiga to let you be there and these blades look amazing. cant wait for the test video. great work dan

Dan
11-14-2014, 11:04 AM
im just dying to ask,

What was your initial thoughts about the textreme carbon blades?Cant wait to hear about them.

Haha, I don't think I can give away to much as they are not released yet, but what I can say is they felt amazing. very good sweetspot and fast, but I felt the control was there to. What I was really impressed with is that STIGA work with the China players to constantly try and find the perfect balance for the carbon blades.


awesome. generous of stiga to let you be there and these blades look amazing. cant wait for the test video. great work dan

Yeah you are right they are very kind and generous. I will do my best with the video, hope you all like it :)

jeycop
11-14-2014, 05:34 PM
Dan did you remind Kristian Karlsson to answer the questions he has on TTD when you met him yesterday? :D

Dan
11-14-2014, 07:16 PM
Dan did you remind Kristian Karlsson to answer the questions he has on TTD when you met him yesterday? :D

Oh, I didnt realise Kristian had questions pending to answer. I was talking to him today about his upcoming match against Gionis. I will get him to respond to them after the Swedish Open :) Thanks for reminding me.

ttfred98
11-14-2014, 08:54 PM
When are the new blades even going to be out???

fz29888
11-15-2014, 04:15 AM
I thought Yan An was sponsored by DHS. Yan An posted two pictures of his named blade "Hurricane Yan" by DHS in his sina weibo in June. Why is he coming to Stiga now?
http://www.weibo.com/2104845451/B8wnox0u2?type=comment#_rnd1416024817962
http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=84f055d16c061d957d4637304bf60a5d/0ec2d5628535e5ddcae0893674c6a7efcf1b620e.jpghttp://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=62f977df1f950a7b75354ecc3ad3625c/94628535e5dde711be1e6f1fa5efce1b9c16610e.jpg

MegaZZ
11-15-2014, 05:04 AM
I thought Yan An was sponsored by DHS. Yan An posted two pictures of his named blade "Hurricane Yan" by DHS in his sina weibo in June. Why is he coming to Stiga now?
http://www.weibo.com/2104845451/B8wnox0u2?type=comment#_rnd1416024817962
http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=84f055d16c061d957d4637304bf60a5d/0ec2d5628535e5ddcae0893674c6a7efcf1b620e.jpghttp://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=62f977df1f950a7b75354ecc3ad3625c/94628535e5dde711be1e6f1fa5efce1b9c16610e.jpg

There is a DHS blade for Xu Xin as well but Xu Xin is still sponsored by Stiga. DHS makes blades for pretty much all the top CNT players. I am actually not sure who Yan An is sponsored by.

fz29888
11-15-2014, 11:36 AM
There is a DHS blade for Xu Xin as well but Xu Xin is still sponsored by Stiga. DHS makes blades for pretty much all the top CNT players. I am actually not sure who Yan An is sponsored by.

I'm pretty sure there is no DHS blade for Xu Xin. DHS made blades for Wang Liqin, Wang Hao, Ma Long, Ding Ning and Li Xiaoxia. I searched in some Chinese forums and found Yan An used to use Butterfly ZJK and Viscaria. \(^o^)/

Tony's Table Tennis
11-15-2014, 11:45 AM
Well according to Stiga, Yan An is sponsored by them

But we all know FZD uses Viscaria with a Stiga handle

Maybe Yan An is using his DHS blade with a Stiga handle too lol

Olio
11-15-2014, 03:54 PM
But we all know FZD uses Viscaria with a Stiga handle


Do we ?

I don't mind either way, but I don't think I have seen conclusive evidence of that.

raazzz
11-15-2014, 04:23 PM
Yeah same here, have you just heard it or do you have any proof? :)

MegaZZ
11-15-2014, 06:03 PM
I'm pretty sure there is no DHS blade for Xu Xin. DHS made blades for Wang Liqin, Wang Hao, Ma Long, Ding Ning and Li Xiaoxia. I searched in some Chinese forums and found Yan An used to use Butterfly ZJK and Viscaria. \(^o^)/

There is a DHS penhold blade for Xu Xin, I have seen it but it's not commercially available. He also doesn't play with it at all so...

Rajah*
11-15-2014, 06:56 PM
Do we ?

I don't mind either way, but I don't think I have seen conclusive evidence of that.
[emoji4] this is an old topic and a looooooooooooooooooong story..
Im thinkin of getting a bucket of popcorn

mahomedy13
11-15-2014, 06:58 PM
[emoji4] this is an old topic and a looooooooooooooooooong story..
Im thinkin of getting a bucket of popcorn

some people just dont stop arguing about it...

Tony's Table Tennis
11-15-2014, 07:15 PM
some people just dont stop arguing about it...

A discussion is not necessary "arguing"

Tony's Table Tennis
11-15-2014, 07:17 PM
Do we ?

I don't mind either way, but I don't think I have seen conclusive evidence of that.

It doesn't matter if you have evidence or not

You can ask any one who asked FZD for his rubbers.
Its simple, the moment the rubbers comes off and you can see the logos - go ask FZD for some rubbers

Rajah*
11-15-2014, 07:18 PM
Thats the funny thing about it.. people are so obssessed about what pro use rather than focusing on their own skill development hahaha people imitate their idol the way they play their signiture moves... What they dont understand is that copying them.. wont make them as good as their idol pros bcoz you will be copying also their mistakes.

mahomedy13
11-15-2014, 07:18 PM
A discussion is not necessary "arguing"

arguing/not agreeing-whats the difference?

Tony's Table Tennis
11-15-2014, 07:21 PM
[emoji4] this is an old topic and a looooooooooooooooooong story..
Im thinkin of getting a bucket of popcorn

I'm actually so tired to explain this to everyone, especially people don't read it the first time, second time, or 10th time I posted this a while back lol
They can choose to trust me or not, I don't mind
It doesn't make a different

Tony's Table Tennis
11-15-2014, 07:23 PM
arguing/not agreeing-whats the difference?

1) "give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view"
nope

2) "exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way."
nope

I don't think the above is arguing.

If you think arguing = not-agreeing, then I think you come from a violent environment lol

mahomedy13
11-15-2014, 07:25 PM
1) "give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view"
nope

2) "exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way."
nope

I don't think the above is arguing.

If you think arguing = not-agreeing, then I think you come from a violent environment lol

ok.I give up.you are right

Tony's Table Tennis
11-15-2014, 07:27 PM
Thats the funny thing about it.. people are so obssessed about what pro use rather than focusing on their own skill development hahaha people imitate their idol the way they play their signiture moves... What they dont understand is that copying them.. wont make them as good as their idol pros bcoz you will be copying also their mistakes.

yeah, so true
Well, they can go to Stiga's website and see that FZD uses a Stiga blade with Stiga rubber on the back hand.
also in the Stiga Photo Shoot, you can clearly see he uses Stiga blade with 2 Stiga rubbers - that must be true - so guys, go and copy that hehehe

mahomedy13
11-15-2014, 07:28 PM
Do we ?

I don't mind either way, but I don't think I have seen conclusive evidence of that.

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?9051-Xu-xin-amp-Zhang-Jike-s-blades-Chinese-National-Championships-2014&highlight=zhang+jike

any ways,here is a picture of his bat in the chinese national championship 2014

Tony's Table Tennis
11-15-2014, 07:58 PM
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?9051-Xu-xin-amp-Zhang-Jike-s-blades-Chinese-National-Championships-2014&highlight=zhang+jike

any ways,here is a picture of his bat in the chinese national championship 2014

It sure doesn't state Infinty on the left and VPS V on the right - as per normal version.
And it sure doesn't look like a Calibra Tour M rubber too

Tinykin
11-15-2014, 11:53 PM
yeah, so true
Well, they can go to Stiga's website and see that FZD uses a Stiga blade with Stiga rubber on the back hand.
also in the Stiga Photo Shoot, you can clearly see he uses Stiga blade with 2 Stiga rubbers - that must be true - so guys, go and copy that hehehe

Amateur players in any sport buy what the pros promote for all kinds of reasons. There are tons of marketing books and internet material out there that explains why buyers buy stuff promoted by whomever.

edit: I was really referring to the post that Tony quoted. I don't know why it doesn't show up here.

TurboZ
11-16-2014, 12:16 AM
There is a DHS penhold blade for Xu Xin, I have seen it but it's not commercially available. He also doesn't play with it at all so...

XX did use a DHS custom blade back in his early years before Stiga. But I see no commercial DHS blade carrying his name.


It is common for DHS to release blades under many pro players name following the same structure but rarely actually used by them. Yan An still use Butterfly in the current Swedish Open.

TurboZ
11-16-2014, 12:35 AM
Do we ?

I don't mind either way, but I don't think I have seen conclusive evidence of that.

There are photos of his blade with that unique big Stiga logo and fade Viscaria print. But people can choose not to believe it.
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?7346-FZD-is-not-using-Infinity-VPS-!&p=73718&viewfull=1#post73718 (http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?7346-FZD-is-not-using-Infinity-VPS-!&p=73718&viewfull=1)

yogi_bear
11-16-2014, 01:03 AM
Dan, were you able to get a pic of fzd, yan an and XX signing my blade?

Olio
11-16-2014, 08:48 PM
Do we ?

I don't mind either way, but I don't think I have seen conclusive evidence of that.

Sorry I asked.

It was a genuine question, and I missed the previous thread on this.

Personally, if Tony's (trusted) friend has seen the Viscaria markings on FZD's blade, and considering his reputation so far on the various TT forums (impeccable), I believe what Tony says.

mahomedy13
11-16-2014, 09:23 PM
Sorry I asked.

It was a genuine question, and I missed the previous thread on this.

Personally, if Tony's (trusted) friend has seen the Viscaria markings on FZD's blade, and considering his reputation so far on the various TT forums (impeccable), I believe what Tony says.

I was also like that at a stage,but people like Tony have a lot of friends within the CNT vicinity,and they were able to give the exact blade he uses.

Tony's Table Tennis
11-17-2014, 12:23 AM
Amateur players in any sport buy what the pros promote for all kinds of reasons. There are tons of marketing books and internet material out there that explains why buyers buy stuff promoted by whomever.

edit: I was really referring to the post that Tony quoted. I don't know why it doesn't show up here.

Yeah, that is why I see people thinking the Boll and Waldner pre made bats are the best and then wonder why "DIY" bats are so pricy :p
I some times wonder what is the clear direction of what these table tennis companies want to do.
Making money is obviously number 1 priority, but to trick people is really a thin line between ethical and unethical (FZD blade can be debated but 100% accurate that he doesn't use any Stiga rubber, but Stiga states he uses Calibra Tour M).
Of course 99% of the marketing world nowadays are like that, and most people just accept it or are fine with it.

Tony's Table Tennis
11-17-2014, 12:30 AM
Sorry I asked.

It was a genuine question, and I missed the previous thread on this.

Personally, if Tony's (trusted) friend has seen the Viscaria markings on FZD's blade, and considering his reputation so far on the various TT forums (impeccable), I believe what Tony says.

No worries.
Maybe I was a bit harsh earlier on (was on my way out and had no time to type)

Basically there are some "known" secrets, but it can not be too obvious - for the sake of contractual and legal matters.
ie - do you think FZD will advertise that he is not using Stiga blade?
Do you think all these can lead to consumer protection act law against Stiga for marketing fraud?

But you just get some people who want clear evidance - for what, i'm not sure, as it doesn't matter to me what FZD uses, I dont care, but the only thing I care is with the lying part. Why lie? easy - for the sake of making more money.

I really don't understand why Stiga doesn't make a Viscaria clone, and the problem is sorted.

Btw, this handle trick has been around for a long time already.
As I said above - blade can be debatable, but clearly rubbers can be easily seen as non stiga branded.

Any ways, enough of me against Stiga in this thread. They are a great brand with great products. I just don't understand why the stars don't use Stiga equipment or why they choose to mislead people in thinking they do.

Michal_Z
11-17-2014, 09:53 AM
Guys you are sooo off topic .. omg ..

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Dan, I am happy for you, you should do some action pictures with those guys :)

Michal_Z
11-17-2014, 10:11 AM
Dan, popped in my mind, if you can and get time, ask them about this..
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?9019-System-of-tournaments-in-table-tennis-(World-cup-Grand-Slams-Opens)

Ask them, stiga guys, ask players, what do they think about it? What would they change?
The CNT didnt go to many pro tours this years, why?

rocketscientist
12-10-2014, 05:15 PM
Just saw the trailer for the upcoming review with Xu Xin and Fan Zhendong! Man, that trip really seems to be worth the while! My favorite player is Fan Zhendong!

Dan
12-10-2014, 05:37 PM
Dan, popped in my mind, if you can and get time, ask them about this..
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?9019-System-of-tournaments-in-table-tennis-(World-cup-Grand-Slams-Opens)

Ask them, stiga guys, ask players, what do they think about it? What would they change?
The CNT didnt go to many pro tours this years, why?

Hey Michal, I missed this question sorry. You are right sure is interesting and I will try to in the near future :)


Just saw the trailer for the upcoming review with Xu Xin and Fan Zhendong! Man, that trip really seems to be worth the while! My favorite player is Fan Zhendong!

Glad you like it @rocketscientist Yeah the trip was amazing! Fan Zhendong is such a cool guy, very humble!

raazzz
12-10-2014, 08:32 PM
Just saw the trailer for the upcoming review with Xu Xin and Fan Zhendong! Man, that trip really seems to be worth the while! My favorite player is Fan Zhendong!

+1 Fan Zhendong is just amazing! Really looking forward for the review!