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I'm very convinced that is in fact ALC, that's why I'm calling it as such in my posts. Definitly not Diolen or Dyed Kevlar, it's much different than those two. Anyway, whatever it is, after much trial and error it is the closest I have to Butterfly's ALC. Not the same weave pattern they use but the feeling is close. Despite being heavier than my 165 g/m2 A-C it feels a bit softer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedis
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I made this experiment because I always wanted to make a blade with thick and hard outer layers. My intention was to make it stiff and relatively hard, maybe for a modern chopper who also needs some power to counter attack. As such, it's still a reasonably fast blade, probably in the Off- range.
Available in my FS thread.
Composition: Black Walnut / Kiri / Black Walnut
Weight: 90.1g
Thickness: 6.6mm
Freq.: 1300 Hz
Balance: 3.0cm (Med)
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Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Wait, that was the Powerpuff girls...Quote:
Originally Posted by David Ferguson
All sorts of quality wood of course, as well as the ocasional composite.
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These are getting popular. My Innegra inner composition, customized with a 158x152mm head size and a big ST handle with the German flag.
Composition: Black Limba / Black Limba / Innegra-Carbon / Ayous / Innegra-Carbon / Black Limba / Black Limba
Weight: 87.5g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1250 Hz
Balance: 3.2cm (Med)
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I made this blade this blade before the new LYJ blade came out. The owner wanted the same design but at the time there was only one really unclear photo around. From that photo we cold see the the handle was green but as it turns out there are a few more colors in there 😅
Composition: Koto / Ayous / SZLC / Kiri / SZLC / Ayous / Koto
Weight: 87.3g
Thickness: 6.1mm
Freq.: 1380 Hz
Balance: 2.9cm (Low/Med)
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Yellow Pine is my favorite medial ply in a 5 ply composition, it gives a sharp feedback, good speed and stability. But we must be careful of the top ply we use, or the feeling might become too hard. In this case the owner wanted to try a harder outer ply and unfortunately that was the result, the feeling became too hard for him with a poor synergy between the top and medial ply (in his own words). He did like my FL handle shape so something good came out of it 🙂
Composition: Movingui / Yellow Pine / Ayous / Yellow Pine / Movingui
Weight: 92.5g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1313Hz
Balance: 2.8cm (Low)
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That yellow pine medial ply looks like my favorite medial ply, european larch! It provides that same wonderful sharp feedback you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by Nate4s
They are very similar indeed.
Many people say the old Clippers from the 90's felt much better. Composition wise they were the same, but they were thinner around that time, around 6.2mm. This is my attempt to replicate that but I decided to use Tola instead of Limba. Tola is very similar to Limba but slightly softer so I used it in the medial ply as well instead of Ayous.
Available in my FS thread.
Composition: Tola / Tola / Ayous / Ayous / Ayous / Tola / Tola
Weight: 92.1g
Thickness: 6.2mm
Freq.: 1290Hz
Balance: 2.3cm (Low)
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I don't get a lot of requests for penhold blades so it's nice to make them every once in a while.
Composition: Koto / Spruce / ALC / Kiri / ALC / Spruce / Koto
Weight: 92.7gThickness: 6.0mm
Freq.: 1350 Hz
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Hipnotic, Do You have a hompage where Your FS blades are displayed with their characteristics? If not I think You should create one and link from this page instead. Rigth now it a pain to figure out what You still have for sale,
Cheers
L-zr
I have a FS thread open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazer
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...-FS-SDC-Blades
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Thats the pain, Its impossible to get an overview of whats for sale. Now You have to go through each post every time....Quote:
Originally Posted by hipnotic
A page with information like my earlier post would be much better. The current concept is good if You only do personal orders and have nothing for general sale.
Cheers
L-zr
I don't get it... You go to the first page of that topic and there is a list of the blades available and their characteristics, I think it's simple enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazer
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Originally Posted by Lazer
what are you talking about? he updates first post regularly.
I didn't get it, Since most of the subjects never dies (which I hate) I have the habit to always jump to last page.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipnotic
Sorry, I get it now (Hopefully I'll remember)
Cheers
L-zr
Sure, no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazer
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This is an attempt at a pure chopping blade. Large head size to increase the sweet-spot, thick and hard outer layers combined with a soft core to maximize energy absorption and feedback.
Available in my FS thread.
Composition: Black Walnut / 5x Ayous / Black Walnut
Weight: 93.4g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1250 Hz
Balance: 3.3cm (Med)
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Originally Posted by hipnotic
This one caught my eye. How much would it be if it's walnut, spruce, kiri?? Like the Adidas Avenger 5.
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Originally Posted by yogi_bear
Around 60€ Yogi. But the Avenger 5 used a much thinner and different walnut top ply, and a Ayous core.
Once I was asked: "Can you make a carbon fiber handle?". No, I can't, but that gave me the idea of at least incorporating that element in the handle. The composition is also something I wanted to make for some time, an inner ALC blade with Koto outer and WRC core. Soft feeling with the crispiness of Koto that enables a powerful spin play.
Available in my FS thread.
Composition: Koto / Blue Fig / ALC / WRC / ALC / Blue Fig / Koto
Weight: 90.1g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1250 Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)
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A commission for a Kong Linghui Special remake.
Composition: Hinoki / ALC / Kiri / ALC / Hinoki
Weight: 82.9g
Thickness: 5.7mm
Freq.: 1550 Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)
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Commissioned combi blade. I think this is the heaviest I've ever made, but with a balance so low, it felt just like a regular 90g blade. However, the most interesting part was the feeling, the combination of characteristics gave it an incredible elasticity, almost like a slingshot.
Composition: Bamboo / Yellow Pine / Spruce / WRC / Reconstituted Ebony
Weight: 114.1g
Thickness: 6.1mm
Freq.: 1120/1140 Hz
Balance: 1.9cm (Very Low)
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Bamboo as a surface layer, that's interesting have You tried this before and what is the impact?Quote:
Originally Posted by hipnotic
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Originally Posted by Lazer
I have used it before in the core but never as a top layer. I haven't tested the blade but it felt springy, like an harder spruce. But then again it's hard to pinpoint this to the top layer since everything on this blade was designed to make this side springy, from the spruce core to yellow pine medial.
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Originally Posted by hipnotic
A hitter's blade, then, probably designed for SP play (with these extremely hard outers)?
The ebony should be hard but what about the bamboo? "Like a harder spruce", but spruce is soft and bendy, at least the spruce that boat mast are made from.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoass
Hipnotic, was the feeling equal on both sides or was it springier on the bamboo side?
Edit: I see You didn't test it yet.Cheers"
L-zr
It's not real ebony but reconstituted ebony, similar to the one used on the gauzy sl for example. It's still hard and heavy, but not as much as the real thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazer
I didn't try the blade nor will I because it was a custom order. But the owner is out there, perhaps he can comment with his impressions.
Yoass, close but not quite, he is a modern defender [emoji846]
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Thanks, What would happen if You replaced WRC / Reconstituted Ebony for Yellow Pine / Bamboo ?
What rating?, what weight?.
Cheers
L-zr
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Originally Posted by Lazer
The weight would increase about a couple of grams, not because of the bamboo, which weighs about the same as the "ebony", but because yellow pine is much heavier than WRC. This one came out with ~74g, just for the blade itself without handles, the handles weighed 40g.
Speed would also increase a bit, but this was a relatively fast blade already, despite the low frequency reading. One thing I noticed was that blades with spruce or wrc cores tend to have misleadingly low frequency values.
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Originally Posted by hipnotic
Nothing to be seen in the FS thread, I assume it is sold before you could post it ???
That’s interesting ... thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipnotic
Cheers
L-zr
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Originally Posted by lodro
I think it was there for a couple of days but it was already sold.
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Originally Posted by hipnotic
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I have been summoned hahah
Well, the blade is of superb quality and its pretty much my go to blade now. First time holding the blade I felt it was a little heavy for my taste, being accustomed to 90g, but when I put the rubbers on, the balance didn't shift a bit so the blade felt like it gained no real weight that would slow down my game.
Initial impression was phenomenal, the blade having a low balance is what I like the most. The handle was modeled after the XIOM IceCream and the feeling is spot on.
The weight is here, like holding a Quarter Pounder, but its not a problem ingame.
Driving is definitely the blades strong suit. It feels crisp and strong. The FH (bamboo) side + Omega 7 Tour gives the blade a strong kick and a medium long trajectory with medium arc.No consistency problems on the FH side since I'm a long distance looper and hitter. I twiddle the racket and the BH side is a little harder for me to control because of the long trajectory, but its managable.
Looping is also great, the blade has enough power to send the ball flying over the net no matter the distance. My kind of loop (alot of arm and body movement going forward) gives the ball a strong kick of the bounce and a medium low arc to the edge of the table. I struggled a bit more with openers on the BH side because of the fast blade and rubber combo but the feeling is nice and consistency is getting better with more play.
Blocking feels solid and controlled. Hard rubber with a relatively hard bamboo outer layer gives it a strong, direct block direct on the table. Punch blocks are also not a problem.
BH side with "ebony" and long pips (Stiga horizontal 20) is controlled and easy to chop away from the table because of the speed of the blade, altough the blade is slower on the BH side, about All+ to Off- speed.
Thanks, how did You come up with bamboo as a surface layer? I think that is very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivek
Cheers
L-zr
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Originally Posted by Lazer
Honestly, the DMs from hipnotic and me went something like, wanna try, yeah why not hahaha
I had no real preference with the materials used in the blade so we practically went Yolo for the FH side.
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Originally Posted by hipnotic
Sergio, for this blade you are giving a frequency of 1250Hz could you guess what , in comparison my
BTY ALC innerlayer frequency might be ???
regards
lodro
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Originally Posted by lodro
Probably something between 1290-1390Hz. But you can easily measure that yourself.
My tribute to the master! JO Shape, with Yellow Pine medial ply instead of Spruce for more power.
Available in my FS thread.
Composition: Limba / Yellow Pine / Ayous / Yellow Pine / Limba
Weight: 88.4g
Thickness: 5.65mm
Freq.: 1270Hz
Balance: 2.8cm (Low)
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Originally Posted by hipnotic
Sorry about me having to have a giggle but your answer made me remember of another thread
which made me download the frequency -meter which then brought me to the question of what
is required to do" the bounce".
Even though I asked , I never got an answer to what the proper bounce to measure frequencies
is supposed to be,
like bounce with what ball
bounce from what height
bounce with what speed
bounce with the blade flat on the table
shoot the ball at the blade while it is held in the hand by the handle
shoot the ball at the blade while blade-handle is held in a vise
So i realized I was just going in a circle or maybe it is a spiral
apologies again
lodro