SDC Handmade Blades

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Originally Posted by lodro

Sorry about me having to have a giggle but your answer made me remember of another thread


which made me download the frequency -meter which then brought me to the question of what


is required to do" the bounce".


Even though I asked , I never got an answer to what the proper bounce to measure frequencies


is supposed to be,


like bounce with what ball


bounce from what height


bounce with what speed


bounce with the blade flat on the table


shoot the ball at the blade while it is held in the hand by the handle


shoot the ball at the blade while blade-handle is held in a vise


So i realized I was just going in a circle or maybe it is a spiral



apologies again


lodro

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There is a lot of technical info behind the measuring procedure that I don't want to get in to, but basically what you need to know is: You just need one bounce one the center of the blade. The ball height just needs to be enough to get a clear reading. Ball height won't affect the the peak, any small changes are due to microphone sensitivity. Grip pressure and position will affect the reading because you are changing the damping properties with your hand. What I normally do is to lay the phone on the table and hold the blade near the microphone with my normal playing grip. Then I drop the ball from 30-40cm and get the reading.

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

There is a lot of technical info behind the measuring procedure that I don't want to get in to, but basically what you need to know is: You just need one bounce one the center of the blade. The ball height just needs to be enough to get a clear reading. Ball height won't affect the the peak, any small changes are due to microphone sensitivity. Grip pressure and position will affect the reading because you are changing the damping properties with your hand. What I normally do is to lay the phone on the table and hold the blade near the microphone with my normal playing grip. Then I drop the ball from 30-40cm and get the reading.

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Thank you very much.


that should do me fine.

A remake of one of my earliest builds for a team mate who wanted a spare. The handle is black walnut with his club colors.

Composition: Black Limba / Limba / ALC / WRC / ALC / Limba / Black Limba
Weight: 92.9g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1270 Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...4/29/188_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...4/29/188_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...4/29/188_3.jpg

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

A remake of one of my earliest builds for a team mate who wanted a spare. The handle is black walnut with his club colors.

Composition: Black Limba / Limba / ALC / WRC / ALC / Limba / Black Limba
Weight: 92.9g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1270 Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...4/29/188_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...4/29/188_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...4/29/188_3.jpg

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That looks awesome. I love the ply construction, weight, balance. I would use that blade for sure.

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Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl

That looks awesome. I love the ply construction, weight, balance. I would use that blade for sure.

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This team mate of mine is a very good player, he was even national level when he was younger. He plays very aggressively near the table, but it's funny how sometimes good players are completely clueless about the material they are using. He was told from a young age what to use by his coach, and the coach isn't a particularly savvy guy when it comes to gear neither. He was using a blade that I thought was way to fast for his play style, and when he tried the original version of this blade it immediately clicked. His consistency increased a lot, he started winning points by spinning and controlling the ball, rather than smacking the hell out of it.

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

This team mate of mine is a very good player, he was even national level when he was younger. He plays very aggressively near the table, but it's funny how sometimes good players are completely clueless about the material they are using. He was told from a young age what to use by his coach, and the coach isn't a particularly savvy guy when it comes to gear neither. He was using a blade that I thought was way to fast for his play style, and when he tried the original version of this blade it immediately clicked. His consistency increased a lot, he started winning points by spinning and controlling the ball, rather than smacking the hell out of it.

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Yep. That blade would be good for that. And the ALC ply next to the core would give extra kick on bigger impact or further from the table.

That blade is pretty much what I am using, except, I don't have the ALC ply. And what you describe sounds a lot like how I play, except, he is probably playing at a notably higher level than me. :)

Commission blade. Inner ZLC with a personalized handle shape.

Composition: Limba / Ayous / ZLC / Ayous / ZLC / Ayous / Limba
Weight: 85.8g
Thickness: 5.7mm
Freq.: 1380 Hz
Balance: 2.5cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/04/193_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/04/193_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/04/193_3.jpg

There seems a lot of brands coming up with Acoustic style blades lately. This is my take on it, Limba top with paired with a thick medial Limba ply that gives a very nice feel.

Available FS.

Composition: Limba / Limba / Kiri / Limba / Limba
Weight: 89.6g
Thickness: 5.80mm
Freq.: 1270Hz
Balance: 2.9cm (Low/Med)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/09/213_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/09/213_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/09/213_3.jpg

I got a commission for a blade a few months ago (the red one). The composition is very similar to a M. Maze, but the owner wanted a head shape with wider wings, and a handle closer to a Viscaria. He called it the "Black Lava". The thing is I messed up, so the blade came back for a repair. In that time it got a little sister! The blue one has a inner composition with a slightly enlarged core.

Red
Composition: Black Limba / ALC / Ayous / Kiri / Ayous / ALC / Black Limba
Weight: 86.3g
Thickness: 5.80mm
Freq.: 1335 Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)

Blue
Composition: Limba / Ayous / ALC / Ayous / ALC / Ayous / Limba
Weight: 87.2g
Thickness: 6.05mm
Freq.: 1270 Hz
Balance: 3.6cm (Med)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for.../234_186_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for.../234_186_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for.../234_186_3.jpg

If you think this blade shares a great resemblance with another blade, whose name describes the natural technical abilities of a player that approaches the game in a cautious but offensive fashion... You ate absolutely right 😄 But that one is also inspired in another blade so I think I'm off the hook.

This was custom blade I made recently, and I just wanted to take the opportunity to say that I do use hide glue. It's not my preferred choice, but I will use it if requested or, such as in this case, the player tells me he wants to have vibrations and feedback. Not all of us like to feel vibrations, but my opinion matters little when the blade is for someone else, so I guess it's a good thing I can cover both scenarios.

Composition: Limba / Limba / Ayous / Limba / Limba
Weight: 88.6g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1205Hz
Balance: 2.8cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/11/254_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/11/254_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/11/245_3.jpg

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

If you think this blade shares a great resemblance with another blade, whose name describes the natural technical abilities of a player that approaches the game in a cautious but offensive fashion... You ate absolutely right 😄 But that one is also inspired in another blade so I think I'm off the hook.

This was custom blade I made recently, and I just wanted to take the opportunity to say that I do use hide glue. It's not my preferred choice, but I will use it if requested or, such as in this case, the player tells me he wants to have vibrations and feedback. Not all of us like to feel vibrations, but my opinion matters little when the blade is for someone else, so I guess it's a good thing I can cover both scenarios.

Composition: Limba / Limba / Ayous / Limba / Limba
Weight: 88.6g
Thickness: 5.75mm
Freq.: 1205Hz
Balance: 2.8cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/11/254_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/11/254_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/11/245_3.jpg

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Drop-dead-georgeous ! ....................and i am intrigued by the "new-style" S-insert. How is it made ?

What is the wood used on the handle?
Very nice!

The new logo-design under the handle looks so nice and natural. 👍

Thanks! The wood on the handle is wenge, there is also a thin stripe of purple heart but I didn't get as much contrast as I was hoping. The logo is nothing fancy, just a piece of engraved wood inserted into the handle. I don't do the engravings myself, but I'm working on a few solutions to allow custom engraved elements that I can embed on the handle.

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

Thanks! The wood on the handle is wenge, there is also a thin stripe of purple heart but I didn't get as much contrast as I was hoping. The logo is nothing fancy, just a piece of engraved wood inserted into the handle. I don't do the engravings myself, but I'm working on a few solutions to allow custom engraved elements that I can embed on the handle.

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Wow, this looks like a blade for me. Weight is perfect, handle looks are perfect and shape looks perfect, and the frequency is in all to all+ range.

I guess the wenge is tinted?
How much weight difference is in the handle?
Approximately ow much heavier would this blade be if You replaced the Limba layers for 2 layers of 1.0mm hinoki and 2 layers of 0.6mm hinoki?

Cheers
L-zr

Nothing is tinted, this is just Wenge wood in all its glory.

For that blade about 65g were for the blade itself without handles, the rest was the weight off the handle. The composition you asked wouldn't be much heavier, probably around 66g, maybe less if I used a less dense Ayous core.

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Thanks.

Wow that a pretty looking wood.
Hmm only a gram heavier, the limba layers must be quite thick then.
I guess since Wenge is relatively heavy, so there is weight to save in the handle. Of couse the centre of gravity will move towards the head but that makes the blade a little faster (all good I think)...

Another blade I like is no:213 on Your home page what's the wood in the handle on that one?

Cheers
L-zr

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Originally Posted by Lazer

Thanks.

Wow that a pretty looking wood.
Hmm only a gram heavier, the limba layers must be quite thick then.
I guess since Wenge is relatively heavy, so there is weight to save in the handle. Of couse the centre of gravity will move towards the head but that makes the blade a little faster (all good I think)...

Another blade I like is no:213 on Your home page what's the wood in the handle on that one?

Cheers
L-zr

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Not that thick, same as the V-, but Limba isn't as light as everyone thinks, it's closer to Koto in weight than Hinoki is to Limba.

Wenge is very heavy, even with the ayous sub layers these handles came out with almost 30g, I had to hollow them a bit.

Not sure which one you mean, the one with the blue handle?

Yes, the type of wood on handle no: 213?

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Originally Posted by Lazer

Yes, the type of wood on handle no: 213?

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That one is Fig (dyed blue)

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

That one is Fig (dyed blue)

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I suppose you mean Fir
Great thanks.

Cheers
L-zr

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Originally Posted by Lazer

I suppose you mean Fir
Great thanks.

Cheers
L-zr

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No, I meant Fig.

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You mean the fruit, OK, didn’t know the wood was used for much.

Cheers
L-zr

Commissioned blade. I just love the clean look of Framiré. I also love the grain structure on Padauk, it almost looks like flowing lava sometimes.

Composition: Framiré / Ayous / I-C / Ayous / I-C / Ayous / Framiré
Weight: 82.8g
Thickness: 5.80mm
Freq.: 1250Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/14/198_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/14/198_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/14/198_3.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/14/198_4.jpg

The Padauk and the Wenge (I think?) look beautiful together - very well done!

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Originally Posted by Manto76

The Padauk and the Wenge (I think?) look beautiful together - very well done!

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Thank you!

No fancy description this time, just a powerful and gorgeous Koto+SZLC blade looking for a new owner.

Composition: Koto / SZLC / Ayous / Kiri / Ayous / SZLC / Koto
Weight: 90.4g
Thickness: 5.65mm
Freq.: 1528Hz
Balance: 2.8cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_3.jpg

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https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_5.jpg

Lookin' nice... but at a LIGHTish 90 g, you know Dr_Echte didn't order it... :D

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

No fancy description this time, just a powerful and gorgeous Koto+SZLC blade looking for a new owner.

Composition: Koto / SZLC / Ayous / Kiri / Ayous / SZLC / Koto
Weight: 90.4g
Thickness: 5.65mm
Freq.: 1528Hz
Balance: 2.8cm (Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_3.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_4.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/17/200_5.jpg

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Beautiful!

Any other wood core closest to balsa that offers almost the same weight reduction for the blade? I think kiri's weight difference is bigger compared to balsa.

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Originally Posted by Der_Echte

Lookin' nice... but at a LIGHTish 90 g, you know Dr_Echte didn't order it... :D

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Yeah, 90g would be too flimsy for you. But I bet you could still do some serious damage with it.

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Originally Posted by yogi_bear

Any other wood core closest to balsa that offers almost the same weight reduction for the blade? I think kiri's weight difference is bigger compared to balsa.

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Of the ones that I use, Kiri is the lightest after Balsa. But Kiri isn't created all equal. I have two species, Elongata and Tomentosa, Elongata is usually lighter and I have come across pieces with very low density, almost the same as balsa. On the other hand, Tomentosa tends to be heavier, and I have pieces that are even denser than Ayous.

Commissioned blade. Inner fiber composition with an asymmetric Olive wood handle.

Composition: Framiré / Ayous / S A-C / Kiri / S A-C / Ayous / Anigre
Weight: 91.9g
Thickness: 5.80mm
Freq.: 1356Hz
Balance: 2.0cm (Very Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/19/199_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/19/199_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/19/199_3.jpg

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

Yeah, 90g would be too flimsy for you. But I bet you could still do some serious damage with it.

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In perhaps my best tourney performance ever, I broke a 95 g Nittaku Monoblade TTD member erm gifted me, then dug out a 84 gram Tibhar Akkad and went to town on opponents with it... I can operate great light but balanced blades too... but with all these blade makers making awesum 95-120 gram blades that nobody wants, sometimes Der-Echte is just out to prove a point and force feed those Quarter Pounders on jokers.

"Shimmer" - One of the blades I most enjoyed building lately. The owner had a clear idea of what he wanted, so all I had to do was to make it happen. The blade has a composition based on a Tibhar Techno Power Contact, a combi blade that offers a bit more control on the BH side. Very comfy AN handle with a "notch" on both sides to facilitate twiddling the racket.

Composition: Limba / Cherry / Ayous / Ayous / Limba
Weight: 92.2g
Thickness: 5.5mm
Freq.: 1100Hz
Balance: 2.0cm (Very Low)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/21/248_1.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/21/248_2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/21/248_4.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...5/21/248_5.jpg

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

Composition: Limba / Cherry / Ayous / Ayous / Limba
Weight: 92.2g
Thickness: 5.5mm
Freq.: 1100Hz
Balance: 2.0cm (Very Low)

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Stunning work, as always!
That's pretty heavy for only 5.5mm thick; is Cherry a heavy wood?

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

Commissioned blade. Inner fiber composition with an asymmetric Olive wood handle.

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Question: the word order implies that the handle is Asymmetric. I think it is the ply construction that is asymmetric though. Is it the handle, the ply construction or both that are asymmetric?

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Originally Posted by Manto76

Stunning work, as always!
That's pretty heavy for only 5.5mm thick; is Cherry a heavy wood?

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The blade was relatively light, around 62g. A third of the weight is on the handle, that's why the balance is so low.

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Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl

Question: the word order implies that the handle is Asymmetric. I think it is the ply construction that is asymmetric though. Is it the handle, the ply construction or both that are asymmetric?

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Well, both. But the blade is barely asymmetric, just a different top ply. If you look at the third Pic you will see that there is a small rotation in the handle, the left side is lower than the right.

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Originally Posted by hipnotic

Well, both. But the blade is barely asymmetric, just a different top ply. If you look at the third Pic you will see that there is a small rotation in the handle, the left side is lower than the right.

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Cool. Thank you for clarifying. And yeah. So, asymmetrical blade plies because of the two different top plies and asymmetrical handle.

The shape of the handle is pretty cool. The grain patterns on the handle are also beautiful. :)

What would be the purpose of the handle shape? Did the person requesting say?