Probably their version of Rakza Z or Omega 7 China.Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas.pong
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Probably their version of Rakza Z or Omega 7 China.Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas.pong
It's the hybrid rubber's race: how to make a tacky chinese-like topsheet with a bouncy sponge, to obey the ITTF rules against boostering.
That's a really good thing, there will be no excuse anymore for boostering in a near future, even for CNT.
isn't that what Dignics 09 and Xiom Tau etc. are trying to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Music&Ping
That's exactly what I'm saying if you read well my post: it's a race, every ESN brand is competing to make the best tacky/springy rubber possible to mimic the boosted H3.Quote:
Originally Posted by tt_beginner
Given the rhythm at which the major ESN brands progress, 3 or 4 years and we'll get a legal perfect H3-like rubber.
Sorry to kill your excitement but that will not kill boosting. Not everyone has possibility or willing to buy new rubber every 3 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Music&Ping
Exactly. Plus an hybrid rubber will never be anything quite like a Chinese rubber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto
And you can't beat the price of a commercial H3, not that I'm boosting... yet.
Music&Ping has written several posts calling the Chinese cheaters for boosting their rubbers. He seems not to realize that non-Chinese professional players all do it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto
True, I know few players in Bundesliga who do boost their tenergies and bluefires.Quote:
Originally Posted by zyu81
People want MORE!! Spin, speed, feel!! As the others have said, boosting is NOT just restricted to Tacky rubbers, I was surprised about this when I was ‘educated’ about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Music&Ping
Like yourself I thought it was just Chinese tacky rubbers that were boosted. Hey Ho!!!
And they are cheaters as well. I've also mentioned that if you were a pro player using booster, then you've got a serious problem. I didn't mention any other country in general, but yes, to me CNT players are cheaters, chinese offcials are cheaters too, as they openly use this illegal process.As they're now the worldwide example for youngsters beginning in this sport. Terrible example...Quote:
Originally Posted by zyu81
It's technological doping as it not allowed by the official rules, period. If the ITTF allows boostering, I'll probably give it a try, but it's a game, a game has rules to respect fairness and equity. If you don't respect the rules, then you're not fair, and you're a cheater.
I stand corrected.
Anybody else wondering why only Viscaria like blades (Koto - xlc- Limba - kiri) blades have the blade and handle shape of the Viscaria: Viscaria, all Zhang Jike, lgy, now Lin Jin yu...
I like this shape so much, but I want it with Innerforce!
All the Innerforce have These damn slim handles and tiny wings :(
The Harimoto IFALC handle is thicker, though not quite the shape of the Viscaria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creek
I prefer the Viscaria shape too, especially the curved top of the neck.
https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/40007...4a117f53q88jv9
Is this new or am I just late to the party?
That one is there for sone time. This one is new though
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0mG1eH
Yeah. Maybe we should phrase it as "rejuvenating built in speed glue effect".Quote:
Originally Posted by IB66
"I'm using it but NOT for tacky rubbers !" So what ... ? as it's well known the purpose for boostering was first to increase the "tensor ratio" of chinese rubbers, why do you think most of the rubbers boosted nowadays are chinese rubbers ? you can all claim any so-called "good faith" whatsoever as it is against the rules, therefore it's cheating. There's no difference, it's only a pretext to try to justify the unjustifiable.
Wow, a Butterfly Innerforce ZLC copy for around half the price...Quote:
Originally Posted by Trayanee
Build quality looks nice as well. It looks pretty tempting.
I wonder if that blade is supposed to be a copy of an HL5 or a HL5x or of a W968. The price is actual more expensive than a HL5 or HL5x, but that might be because of the "luxury" packaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto
Does anyone have any experience with Loki blades? The prices are really tempting.
Attachment 22866Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinSquid
That typo though.
if you are from US look at Gambler PLC Fire Dragon.
I agree that rules are rules. However, I think what people are trying to point out to you is that it's not fair to say that only or mostly the Chinese players are boosting (not "boostering"). Most pros, including the Europeans, are doing it. Even in France, I know several National level players who boost their Tenergys, and I know a few guys in the US who do too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Music&Ping
So between the fact that most pros regardless of their country of origin are doing it and that, whether a rubber is factory tuned or you do it yourself results in the same thing, and ITTF doesn't try to implement an effective way to enforce the rule, it might just be that the rule is flawed. So maybe the ITTF is more to blame for this breach than the players are.
New Mizuno blades:
Fortius FT RE
Fortius FT ver.DE RE
You should've known better as you played in 38mm era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Music&Ping
Not even Butterfly could come close to Chinese tacky rubbers in the old days. If ESN can't even dethrone Butterfly in grippy rubbers after 20 years, what are their chances for tacky rubbers? To fill you in, Butterfly tried it with D'OR in 2004 and then Spin Art in 2010. Didn't even make a dent.
The head designer for the Victas Triple series has actually said in a recent interview that he wanted everything "made in China" instead of made-in-China topsheet and made-in-Japan sponge. That should tell you something.
Victas Play line of blades, should be cheaper offerings, probably for beginners and more recreational players :
https://rallys.online/forplayers/vic...Oc557PRUtSTYu0
You just described my coaches car lolz. No back seats, cage, full flow through exhaust 3 inc, can hear that thing from 10kms away no interrior, love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airoc
Updated look for the Butterfly Boll Forte (much needed).
+ 2 new blades: Boll Fortissimo (harder, faster) and Boll Mezzoforte (medium hardness, slower).
All Made in Hungary.
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Butterfly Japan: Victas is gaining on us.
Butterfly Europe: Why not just ctrl-c Victas?
Correction:Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas.pong
The Boll Forte 2021 is much slower than the previous Boll Forte which was comparable in speed with the SK7 Classic and the Omar Assar blades. The new Boll Forte and the Mezzoforte are both slower than the Primorac Europe and Japan.
The Boll Fortissimo is slightly faster than the old Boll Forte and still comparable in speed with the SK7 and Assar.
Bty Japan: No. We’re cooler. We’re doubling the lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeio
They certainly make me feel even more pleasant with my Gear In.
Oh, so they "stole" the slash from the new made-in-Hungary Black Balsa and Award series...
https://www.victas.com/ja_jp/products/blade?p=3
Tenergy 19 to add to the list https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/...energy/19.html
It's been added and talked about for a while on this thread and others.Quote:
Originally Posted by lugi2000
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Originally Posted by thomas.pong
Oh i missed it, have anyone tried it yet?
Not yet, it comes out on Match 1st.Quote:
Originally Posted by lugi2000
Xiom Omega VII Tour i 48/50, ¥11660, tax included. 🤪
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Originally Posted by zeio
yup that is a very expensive rubber. these rubbers are reportedly once only intended for Xiom sponsored players. These play really good. Even if you only use an all around blade with the iSelect rubbers, you can still hit far from the table. It is quite expensive yes!
I like material.
Could be a blade or rubber. Most likely a rubber.Quote:
Originally Posted by calvincandie
But they don't produce their own rubbers. This was something completely new, like when Tenergy came. And if it was a rubber, I assume other brands who buy from Germany would also have this?
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Originally Posted by calvincandie
Fan Zhendong blade?
There's already a FZD edition of the Legacy Carbon, but a legit FZD blade (modeled after the Viscaria?) would be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by lugi2000
New Sanwei Froster
https://i.imgur.com/3IoL1CL.jpg