STIGA Carbonado 145 and Carbonado 190 with a comparison to Butterfly Viscaria

raazzz said:

It's fast but not extremely, as I have reviewed it has very good control.

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i can confirm that its fast but still controlable. i let some players in my small club test it and the most players liked it, fast but with great control. the weight is also great. mine is 86 grams

After having played a little with both carbonados (I ordered a 190 and a friend got a 145), I definitely chose the 190, was planning to order a 145........but bought a second 190 instead

The 190 is balanced so well, such an amazing control. And despite the flatter trajectory, I feel that 190 has even better dwell time than 145. I'll maybe write a full review after in few weeks.

The 145 is great, but it feels like many other premium blades (somewhere between Maze AlC and Innerforce ALC), the the 190 is something really "special".

I have just bought a Viscaria.... Can't wait to try it

Mofluk said:

I have just bought a Viscaria.... Can't wait to try it

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Hows that Viscaria? Like it?

mofluk how was the viscaria? did you compare to carbonado?

ŒHey Raazzz, first of I wanna say that this was an absolutely great and very informative review, Thank you!

I'm very interested in These so called Carbonado Series, but it's so difficult to choose one of them. I use Tenergy 25 on both my FH and BH, but I can't remember what the blade is called. I find that my blade is very Heavy...

I'm a talented TT player and I have played Table tennis for about 4 years now. I'm a very aggressive and very offensive player who likes to stay in close to mid range to the table, mostly close range. I loop with power and with spin. Against serves I flick with my backhand with sidespin and I loop with my forehand with power and spin. I attack right when my opponent serves. I like to put much spin on my serves and I when my opponent is looping and when I recieve a strong and Heavy loop, I block, if I see that it's not that spin on the loop Or stroke, then I counter topsin, this situation comes usually when i'm close to the table and I have my opponent looping far from the table Or in mid range from the table. I smash very much and I like to put my opponent on pressure and attack. I'm a very offensive and a very aggressive players who likes to play with speed, spin and control close to the table and in mid range to the table. I like to play strong shots and I challenge myself.

Is it any of These Carbonados that you would recommend for me and that suits my playstyle and how I play?
And is it any kind of rubber that you would recommend for me that is great with the Carbonado 145 Or 190 and that suits my playstyle?

And which one of These Carbonados do you think I would match with and which one would you recommend?

By the way, I have some pictures of the blade and the rubber that I currently use, my setup.

raazzz said:

Hi F1lle! I'm glad you liked it! First of all I think they both will work good with your game style and the difference between the blades is not that big. I personally using the 190 so thats the one I like to recommend. When it comes to rubbers it's a little hard to say. I think airoc and Tenergy works good but thats maybe just for me. Do you like soft or hard rubbers, and how do you want the weight on the rubbers to be?

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Hey Raazzz! Yeah the difference isn't that big, but you know in the Carbonado 145 it's Torsional with a 45 degree angle and in the Carbonado 190 it's flexural with a 90 degree angle. It also has a big sweet spot.

And the rubbers, I think I will put either Airoc M on this blade, but I like the Airoc M rubber. I like hard rubbers. But I don't think that I have tried out any soft rubber at all. Calibra Tour M also seems to be good with this blade. But i'm most interested in the Airoc M rubber.

Actually, my current blade with rubber, is 189 grams I think and when I hold my current blade in my hand, I feel that it is very heavy. But I like light to medium rubbers, I think mostly Medium. And I want my Carbonado to be light with Blade and rubber

Thank you in advance

F1lle said:

ŒHey Raazzz, first of I wanna say that this was an absolutely great and very informative review, Thank you!

I'm very interested in These so called Carbonado Series, but it's so difficult to choose one of them. I use Tenergy 25 on both my FH and BH, but I can't remember what the blade is called. I find that my blade is very Heavy...

I'm a talented TT player and I have played Table tennis for about 4 years now. I'm a very aggressive and very offensive player who likes to stay in close to mid range to the table, mostly close range. I loop with power and with spin. Against serves I flick with my backhand with sidespin and I loop with my forehand with power and spin. I attack right when my opponent serves. I like to put much spin on my serves and I when my opponent is looping and when I recieve a strong and Heavy loop, I block, if I see that it's not that spin on the loop Or stroke, then I counter topsin, this situation comes usually when i'm close to the table and I have my opponent looping far from the table Or in mid range from the table. I smash very much and I like to put my opponent on pressure and attack. I'm a very offensive and a very aggressive players who likes to play with speed, spin and control close to the table and in mid range to the table. I like to play strong shots and I challenge myself.

Is it any of These Carbonados that you would recommend for me and that suits my playstyle and how I play?
And is it any kind of rubber that you would recommend for me that is great with the Carbonado 145 Or 190 and that suits my playstyle?

And which one of These Carbonados do you think I would match with and which one would you recommend?

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F1lle, it seems that your blade is the wood from the DHS A6002 pre-made racket, so, as expected, no info about the blade is available, except the one that it is a 5-ply one.

Yeah, Thank you Cornel!

Now I remember when I was in Shanghai and bought the blade

I'll remember that and keep that in mind.

/F1lle

@F1ile
Is it the photo doing tricks or the sponge colour of your Tenergy is yellow?

TurboZ said:

@F1ile
Is it the photo doing tricks or the sponge colour of your Tenergy is yellow?

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TurboZ, nice catch, to me it also seems that it isn't the reddish sponge of the original tenergy.

Haha Turboz, do you mean the wrong side of the pictures? If so then yeah, it got messed up.

I can tell you that it is an orange, red sponge. It's like orange.

/Filip

Nice review and pictures...I recently get my 145 and ready to play with both sides Airoc M.

Maybe Carbonado 145 would be in my list for next year, but i will keep watching the reviews about this Carbonado or the one i have, 190.