Which poly ball should you choose?

those are CA balls afaik

How is the quality and the durability of the cornilleau ball?

mart1nandersson said:

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I stumbled upon 1* orange poly balls at a local sports shop today. Donic made in China. I would rate them slightly better compared to the Butterfly 1* 40+ we use at the club where I normally play. Maybe old news but these are the first orange ones I've seen in the flesh. Really hoping to get a hold of 3* orange poly balls.

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Nice avatar ! Stellan Bengtsson ?

Fabian said:

those are CA balls afaik

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CA is in celluloid? The package says "cell free".

JHB said:

Nice avatar ! Stellan Bengtsson ?

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The one and only

mart1nandersson said:

CA is in celluloid? The package says "cell free".

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Cellulose acetat. Worst balls in history.

I like the DHS D40+ the best.

Loopadoop said:

I like the DHS D40+ the best.

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Actually I do too.

Baal said:

Actually I do too.

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Hm, must be just me then, having been burned by an incredibly bad batch ("XHAG") of them. I introduced the DHS D40+ with great enthusiasm after trying out a few boxes ("XCAG") first, then confidently bought a few dozen more. We're using the XuShaoFa seamless threestar, which plays fine and is well liked, but it's a bit too brittle and a bit too costly even without the high churn rate to my liking, so based upon my initial positive experiences I felt confident a change to the DHS D40+ would work out well.

So then I received a gross out of the forementioned "XHAG" production run, which were like hitting… well, pudding, mostly. Or raw squid. Inflated little rubber balloons wouldn't have been worse by much.

I do think I got a particularly bad batch, but scarred by that experience it will take a whole lot of effort before the club will even considers touching that ball again. Still keen on alternatives to the XSF***, I'm now considering:

• Andro *** Speedball 3S
• DHS Ball *** Dual ABS 40+ (if I can somehow help people overcome that fatal first impression)
• Donic Bal P40+ ***
• Gewo Balls Ultra SLP 40+ ***
• Stiga Bal Perform ABS 40+ ***
• Tibhar Ball***40+ SYNTT NG

The people at the local shops that I consider trustworthy tell me these balls are all frightfully similar. Are they? The TTD review of the Perform ABS 40+ looks promising, and got positive anecdotal evidence on the SYNTT NG 40+.

I can shell out a few tens of €s again, buying a couple of boxes of these six ABS balls. However, I'm now fearful of inconsistencies/QA issues across the board.

The Stiga I tried were good. But only one box of three. Very small sample.

Syntt NG, 3S and P40+ are the same DHS ball afaik (D40+)

Fabian said:

Syntt NG, 3S and P40+ are the same DHS ball afaik (D40+)

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Yes, that's what everybody tells me. Now what I'd like to know if they're not just the same balls created in the same factory using the same process, but if they're also subjected to the same QA regime.

My mixed experiences with the DHS D40+ tell me that the good balls from this type are very good but the bad are very bad indeed. Production of that self same ball in conjunction with a strenuous QA process might help tilt the scales favourably, washing away the (bulk of) the bad ones or batches of bad ones (as I had).

Ball update:

Added - Kingnik Premium 40+ - White - Seamed

So now we know which side Kingnik's bread is buttered...

yoass said:

Yes, that's what everybody tells me. Now what I'd like to know if they're not just the same balls created in the same factory using the same process, but if they're also subjected to the same QA regime.

My mixed experiences with the DHS D40+ tell me that the good balls from this type are very good but the bad are very bad indeed. Production of that self same ball in conjunction with a strenuous QA process might help tilt the scales favourably, washing away the (bulk of) the bad ones or batches of bad ones (as I had).

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That is the key question. I think the companies contracting with the factory can specify QC standards but that affects the price they have to pay a d then pass on. In any case it is strongly looking like seamed ABS balls will win out. I am very much ok with that.

https://minkow.en.alibaba.com/produ...three_star_40_plastic_table_tennis_balls.html

Kingnik Premium is now using some updated plastic material, something different from DHS D40+. It would be an interesting experience to get this new product and give it a thorough try.

Be happy.

BIG BALL UPDATE NEWS. Hold on to your delicate bits...on the approval list...

Nittaku - Nexcell 40+ - Plastic with seam - ORANGE 3*

Regardind the Nexcell or that it's orange? The Nexcell has been on the list for quite a while now... I wrote an Email to Nittaku Germany and Japan without getting a reply.

Fabian said:

Regardind the Nexcell or that it's orange? The Nexcell has been on the list for quite a while now... I wrote an Email to Nittaku Germany and Japan without getting a reply.

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ORRRRAAAAANNNGGEEEEEE.

The orange variant was added on 24th April.

AndySmith said:

BIG BALL UPDATE NEWS. Hold on to your delicate bits...on the approval list...

Nittaku - Nexcell 40+ - Plastic with seam - ORANGE 3*

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That sounds great. Really looking forward.
Any news when it will be available?

Hi, my club uses the Double Fish V40+, it seems different than the regular 40+ slightly more yellowish.
It is quite durable, and heavier than the xuashofa seamless ball, yet more balanced.