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      Ban Junk Rubbers in Table Tennis!

      Should junk rubbers (Long Pimples, Antispin) be banned in table tennis? Watch this awesome animation below as they discuss this topic.

      The animation is a light hearted discussion about how only inverted rubbers should be used in table tennis.

      This is awesome! Enjoy!



      What do you think? Who is correct, should junk rubbers be banned?

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      That is pretty funny. Hahaha. Good find.


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      THIS IS SO TRUE, BAN JUNK RUBBERS!!! especially on double match, where 3 players use junk rubber and im the only player with normal rubber... after push push push I dont remember what spin it is right now !!!! especially if my opponent/friend twiddle the rubber LOL

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      Should be required for a player to use a combo bat for one game a match...

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      If Junk rubbers are used for defence i have no problem with them because they actually require a lot of skill in placement,movement, Strategie and so on.

      If used near or over the table they get huge problem because they actually require 0 skill. Most of the time the user of the rubber themself don t know what kind of spin they return. Many of those players are modifing thier rubber too like putting it into the mircowave or sun because there is no realiable test for these rubbers.
      Players who play like this mostly don t move and play even backhand in the deep forehand side.
      They can do 1 stroke with the bh with some slight variation like 3 and vh smash.
      I need to pratice an entire skill set on vh and bh side.
      It is just an completly different game and not fun to play or pratice against. It is like i put up the other side of the table and play just against myself.
      I feel nothing but disgust for players like this because they just feed on thier opponents tears.
      In my opinion it really hurts the sport, especially for young players it is discouraging.
      Control your emotions ->control the game!

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      Beautiful... This is so hilarious. I just had to share it... So true. Thanks for sharing. :-D
      They shouldn't ban junk rubbers but instead ban junk players. :-)
      And besides i play both sides inverted. ;-)

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      Hahaha! Thanks for sharing.

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      "I'd rather spend the fifty hours on table tennis forums complaining about junk rubbers. - and talking about how to boost your rubbers? - Yes, hey wait a second - because boosting isn't cheating at all, is it? - Hey, is that Jan Ove Waldner over there, gotta go." Roflmao.
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      This is the greatest TT VIDEO of ALL TIME! ROFLMAO!
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      Hahah! Love it!

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      Definitely! Ban themmmmmm

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      definitely! Ban themmmmmm
      "but i laike putting hevvy topspin on da ball!!!"

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      i think they(junk rubbers player) should play together. i usually don't play with them. even in a tournament!

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      Post 16 I Answered and said to the Robotnazi, “O Robotnazi

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      I started corresponding with Dr.Rufford Harrison I believe in 1995. At that time (when internet was in it is primitive stages) I had no idea Dr.Harrison was a robotNazi puppet and had then recently committed the cardinal offense of attempting the Glue Ban (which he almost immediately repealed) . I also had no idea that Dr.Harrison & Scholer attempted the Aspect Ratio rule at the 1995 Tianjin BGM. In a letter to me in 1995 or 96 Dr.Harrison, he hinted about why he was attempting to pass this rule but I had no idea what he was alluding to at that time (but he assumed I knew and was talking about the failed Tianjin attempt to pass the Aspect Rule but sadly I did not). This is when I coined the term robotNazi , I believe (which Jerry Seinfeld would later use far more popularly as SoupNazi.....the real story about some eccentric owner of a famous soup restaurant in New York city) . If only I had known what Dr.Harrison was referring to & had known he was going to re-attempt it secretly in Durban, I am 200% sure I would have stopped him & Scholer , even without existence of the internet , because the vote was something like 19-17 in favor of the rule. I had no idea Scholer, a defensive player was such a political snake who did a 360 degree turnabout to stab defenders in the back because I was just beginning to play after a 10 year hiaatus and was still watching Scholers video "How to win with one color long pips racket", made before the 2 color rule of 1983". (This video is like the porn video that a now famous move actress does not want you to know existed & made when she was starting out as a waitress in Hollywood moonlighting for porn movies) Of course Scholer who had the TT equipment business then, wanted to stop Dr.Neubauer who was rising as a TT dealer and this was the REAL reason for the rule & but I had no idea then. And to top it off arrived the genocidal maniac Adham Sharara who would pass 3 more rules against defenders, openly admitted defensive players have been exterminated but blamed the coaches for it.

      It has been almost 20 years and still spineless coward defenders still do not stand up to the ITTF & most of the posters in this thread are sneaky robotNazis. As funny as this video may seem robotNazis still are firmly in control of the tabletennis cesspool and given that most of the ITTF council members are former attacking style players (either robotNazis or sympathizers) the situation is unlikely to change any time soon

      http://sjcttc.webs.com/faqs.htm
      Okey so, I've read your post a couple times in atempt of understanding, and now I decided to go through the page more throughly. Let's see.
      I knew there was some stuff going on on this area but I never really looked into it, so a lot I did not know
      http://cn.bbs.sport.table-tennis.nar...c-table-tennis
      I found this link, banning speed glue seems reasonable to me.. SO the main picture is robotnazi aka the masses are preventing the good stuff from hapending because this with mess up their game.
      I have not been very familiar with the concrete deifnition of robotnazi, but ofc, your page provided me that:
      "Players who believe that their style is the only valid style in table-tennis & all other styles are just a nuisance & must be eliminated." ok, so you can still play with inverted without being a robotnazi lol. Good to know.

      "the robotNazis coined the phrase junk player long long long long before the term robotNazi was proposed." legit stuff here. I was wondering what the aspect ratio effect was haha "aspect Ratio 10 effect (or Super-Long-pip-effect)" now I know.

      This line though, very surprise, much wow: "But the robotNazis threatened to form their own organization and Dr.Harrison repealed the ban to keep his job."

      "They devised a scheme wherein they whined about the P1-Curl, which was not used by any top player if any. ITTF promptly obeyed the orders of the robotNazis by passing the Aspect Ratio rule which punishes ALL the top choppers who used Feint Long almost exclusively." Are you serious? WOW, I would piss on their shit, mix it with chocolate and serve, no not really, I just like to imagine it. *cough* my point is ,that' bretty bad.

      I still do not get how "microwaved P1-Curl Spezial" makes it good though... a microwaved rubber, like, wait, no I'm blank, seriously, what does it do? and few did it, well that sounds reasonable.
      "Nearly all players at lower levels ( especially in third world nations ) buy or make their own lethal versions of glues, and carry them in a legal container to the playing area….this pretending to be using legal glues." Lol, does this have naything to do with the "do you boost" question "Joke" ? I'm finally starting to understand stuff lmao.
      "the robotNazis argued (& admitted) that all top players cheat when there is no testing & therefore since it gives them an advantage, the glue ban should be reversed." So table tennis is in reality a "black market" sport, interesting.

      "When you combine this non-existent chemical testing with the 2 color rule, Aspect Ratio, 40 mm ball, the pip density rule & thorough visual inspection (of equipment used by spineless cowards at ALL levels) , a tactical player (like a chopper) looks as stupid as a soldier using a handheld shield to ward off an incoming nuclear missile……..it is not even funny"
      Poor Joo Sae Hyuk. Should be more like him up there.

      "Therefore at lower levels, where most players cannot afford ITTF approved glues, especially in 3rd world poor nations, these players almost exclusively use unapproved extremely dangerous glues & even more dangerous home-made concoctions of God-only knows what. "
      Wew, good thing I got aprooved stuff.

      "Unfortunately, the legal glues are not nearly as "bouncy" as the illegal glues. This means that any top player who does not glue with illegal glue is at a somewhat large disadvantage because most top players DO use illegal glues--when there is no testing procedure. “
      mamma mia pizza pepperoni tortellini panini illegale gluelini!? - It was not even funny was it? no? yes?

      "1. The approved glues can NEVER be as effective as the unapproved carcinogenic glues because it is these very carcinogens that give the “Aspect Ratio 10 effect”
      So if people use this, it seems bretty unfair. Bretty unfair I tell yo.

      "This is another brilliant disinformation campaign invented by the robotNazis because they know their 20 year old honeymoon is over & they will no longer be able to get away with literally murder. So it is now fashionable to make Joo Se Hyak their poster child while the simple fact remains & well known that there are a far fewer choppers left after the idiotic Aspect Ratio rule. Furthermore, if the Aspect Ratio had remained at 1.3, let alone the 40 mm ball, Joo Se Hyak would most likely have gone all the way (God forbid)"
      By all means, I'd pay to see Joo Sae Hyuk taking on Xu Xin with that Aspect Ratio stuff, I bet it would be a fabolous watch.

      "Absolutely not. Table-tennis not only an illegal sport but also a criminal activity based on the laws of just about any member nation of the United Nations. If you are under the illusion that , since it is legal with the ITTF , it has to be legal under civil & criminal laws of any nation, you are sadly mistaken. Nothing can be farther from the truth."
      "You must remove all table-tennis tables & dissolve all clubs at your school, university, community center or place of business. If you are a sponsor you must drop your sponsorship immediately ."
      Time out here. What's the problem with simply avoiding chemically dangerous stuff? oh wait, next sentence
      "players come to the playing location already glued up with illegal chemicals at an enclosed location such as a small room in their home or even worse in their cars & this only makes the situation far worse & only makes you all the more liable. " LOL, so at big rooms as long as I don't sniff a players racket it should be cool? Gass mask maybe? nema problema? + At my home and at school, I'm about the only equipment provider to my friends lmao. Well I am thinking about visiting a club soon... In Norway we're usually bretty serious on keeping sports rules.

      "I do not buy the story that glue can give such a huge advantage ? Also, a professional player can play with anything, a racket or even with a shoe or frozen fish?" -> Man, that sounds like something my uncle would say. Dead serious
      Yet another totally misleading brilliant disinformation propaganda invented by the robotNazis. They want you to believe that equipment does not make much of a difference in table-tennis……"

      "what is the problem in their giving up just the unhealthy glue only, let alone drop the maximum thickness to 1.7 mm" Well yes on the glue matter, but why 1.7mm thickness? I'd rather not, I see no favourable reason for that part. Neither do I think that will ever be reversed.

      "Tell that to a robotNazi & let me see you walk away alive !!!"
      In person, on the glue matter? Any day. (considering I can identify such a racket?) Let me reflect over the situation for a second.
      "If you do not take that back and aproove of our speed-glue and hate junk rubbers, you shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. And who is the god who will deliver you from the hands of uss robotnazi's?”
      16 I Answered and said to the Robotnazi, “O Robotnazi, I have no need to answer you in this matter. 17 If that is the case, my God whom I serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and He will deliver us from your hand, O Robotnazi. 18 But if not, let it be known to you, O Robotnazi, that we do not serve your methods, nor will we worship the speed glued image which you have set up.”
      (NB: Actually from Daniel 3:15-18)

      Ok so summarized, we do actually want the AR10 effect, and speed glue/reglue (IOC) properly banned with measures being taken. And what do we need 2 colours for? lol. Let's go for the 38mm plastic ball too. I'll cheer it on.
      Microwaved long pimples for dinner, and melted anti spin with sugar and cream with just a dash of aspect ratio for desert, omnomnomnom.
      and what not……….it is far out hilarious -> You don't say.

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      Kaizu forgot to mention that Larry Hodges and his followers were SO right.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Der_Echte View Post
      Kaizu forgot to mention that Larry Hodges and his followers were SO right.
      Larry Hodges actually saved TT and is now one of the best and most informed bloggers on the internet. So true.

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      Larry Hodges actually saved TT .
      ROTFL

      Long live speed glue & Scholer-Hodges Aspect Ratio regulation

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      is now one of the best and most informed bloggers on the internet. So true.
      Any idea why I ONLY refer to him as "Rev".Larry Hodges ?

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      Long live speed glue & Scholer-Hodges Aspect Ratio regulation



      Any idea why I ONLY refer to him as "Rev".Larry Hodges ?
      Because you "rev"-er his multitudinous contributions to US Table tennis that have placed him in the hall of fame. That's pretty obvious.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      Because you "rev"-er his multitudinous contributions to US Table tennis that have placed him in the hall of fame. That's pretty obvious.
      Don't also forget , as der-echte pointed out, Rev.Hodges also "saved" table-tennis by keeping regluing alive and defending the Scholer-Hodges Aspect Ratio Rule

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      Actually it is an error. He had it correct in his other webpage. He never got around to fixing this error.

      What was meant to say was " Hardbatters coined the term "junk rubber" to refer to smooth rubbers long long before the term robotNazi was proposed meaning the real junk rubbers (with AR10 effects) are not long pips.....the real junk rubbers are reglued smooth rubbers
      Ah I see, well not far from the truth still.
      I still don't get why they can't just allow everything to it's respective limits. Hardbatters without rubbers, the AR10 stuff, long short medium pimples with grippy sides wherever they want.
      The sponge thickness can be even thicker for my sakes, I would not use more than 2.2 Anyhow. And none would gain on 3mm+
      But with speed glue and other dangerous chemicals banned ofc. Heck, they could even let producers make pure composite blades with zero wood if they wanted for my part. The more choices the more colourfull sport would become. If another style (or equipment rype) than the current prooved to be a winning one, the sport would simply become more diverse again on styles.
      And hey, this might be going far, but WHY NOT allow 2 bat style? (Nitoryu?)
      I would be a right handed penholder and left handed shakehander. THE POSSIBILITIES THAT WOULD MAKE!! man that would be so good... Oh, that would be stupid you say? Pff, go throw your negative reasoning in the lake of fire.
      The main purpose would be uniting all in one competitive sport.

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