Europe Top 16 - 2016

necax007 · Feb 7, 2016

fanTT said:
I also think this competition seems to have no importance. For spectators it should be still interesting to watch top Euro players but it looks that there just some. Table tennis is not popular in Portugal?...
The funny part for me was when i watched the prize money for this:
Winner € 2.000
Runner – up € 1.000
3rd and 4th place (2 x) € 500
5th to 8th place (4 x) € 250

But wait!
You know what is even more funny?
Hospitality:
Single room: EUR 220 per person per night
Double room: EUR 180 per person per night

So poor guys who have to fight till end for 3-8 places because still they will be in big minus

Seriuosly, it is very sad

You're right. Table tennis is not popular in Portugal. It's embarassing because we have some good players. But here is all about football.
In Ring hockey we're 15 times world champion and 20 times Euro champion. the clubs won Champions league multiple times, champions in tai kwon do, judo, etc, but you go read a sport newspaper and in 40 pages, 12 is about the 3 main clubs (F.C. Porto Benfica and Sporting) 5 about the other nacional clubs, 2 for lower divisions, 1 for futsal, 1 for formation divisions, 4 for international football, 9 pages for crap (front and back, publicity, etc) and then 6 pages for all the other sports. This in todays paper.
I love football, don't get me wrong, but really? Is the only thing out there???

Friday i went to the games and there were about 150 people there. What can i say? Sad....
Yesterday my wife went with some friends and only the games with Apolónia and Monteiro had more then 200people...

About the rooms i didn't know that. If it's that much they must be in the most expensive hotels of Porto. It's actually cheap renting rooms in good hotels here. about 80€ per night in a 4* hotel. Of course, if they choose luxury, there are hotel rooms here for 1000€ per night.

TableTennisDaily · Feb 7, 2016

LIVE: The bronze medal match has commenced at the Europe Top 16! Kristian Karlsson vs Alexander Shibaev: Live streaming here: http://www.laola1.tv/en-int/livestream/2016-02-07-ittf-europe-top-16-cup-table-1

Ilia Minkin · Feb 7, 2016

Shiba was on fire. The match with Monteiro was very close as well. I wish I could see Shibaev in finals

Suga D · Feb 7, 2016

jedimasterplk said:
offering someone 250 euros is pathetic and embarrasing. I cant imagine ANY other pro sport that would offer that as prize money. Imagine offering that to a tennis player (I wont mention football, as that is a different world altogether) 250 euros is not even enough to pay for Andy Murrays aperitif prior to a meal ....

Totally agree, but...

No television - no sponsorship - small prize money.

It's all connected.

The ITTF made so many rule changes to get more spectators from the mass of non-players (e.g. bigger balls, games to 11, and so on) and still the spectators don't come in masses.

The thing is if even active hobby players rather watch football, something's got to be fishy.
IMHO instead of tryin' to get someone not related to tabletennis to watch our beloved beautiful sport, they (the ITTF) should rather try to get at least the ones to watch that love the sport anyway.
The WCPP was a perfect example how TT-Events can be marketed.
The atmosphere was very intense and quite different to 'regular' tabletennis.
Tabletennis can learn a thing or two from that.

But having an image as a playground/park activity i believe it's not that easy for things to change.

Just my 2 ¢

brabhamista · Feb 7, 2016

Ilia Minkin said:
Shiba was on fire. The match with Monteiro was very close as well. I wish I could see Shibaev in finals

Yeah, Shibaev played extraordinarily well. I expected a close match, but he really didn't give Karlsson a chance except in the 4th when Karlsson slowed down and played a much tighter game.

But with a coach like Alexander Petkevich by your side, you don't need to worry too much. He'll see that and get you back in the following game. And that's exactly what happened. Shibaev opened up the game again, took back control and dictated almost every point in the 5th. Congrats to Shibaev, very well played

Par Gerell · Feb 7, 2016

I updated my post on blog from playing in Europe Top 16 tournament: http://gerells.com/

At Top 16 we were enemies at the table, and today Im the sparring partner. You kind of dont say no when Vladi ask to play with you

Tom TTD · Feb 7, 2016

Predictions for the standings ;
1 Ovcharov
2 Monteiro
3 Shibaev
4 Karlsson
5 Samsonov
6 Fegerl
7 Apolonia
8 Steger

Suga D · Feb 7, 2016

fanTT said:
I also think this competition seems to have no importance. For spectators it should be still interesting to watch top Euro players but it looks that there just some. Table tennis is not popular in Portugal?...
The funny part for me was when i watched the prize money for this:
Winner € 2.000
Runner – up € 1.000
3rd and 4th place (2 x) € 500
5th to 8th place (4 x) € 250

But wait!
You know what is even more funny?
Hospitality:
Single room: EUR 220 per person per night
Double room: EUR 180 per person per night

So poor guys who have to fight till end for 3-8 places because still they will be in big minus

Seriuosly, it is very sad

brabhamista said:
I agree, the prize money is rubbish, but for the players the tournament is not at all a waste of time or unimportant. It has great importance as the top 3 gets to play in the World Cup. That's a prize well worth playing for.

Thanks brabhamista,

i was waitin' for this to be posted.

TableTennisDaily · Feb 7, 2016

Live streaming: Men's Singles Final! Dimitrij Ovtcharov vs Joao Monteiro: http://www.laola1.tv/en-int/livestream/2016-02-07-ittf-europe-top-16-cup-table-1

Rayeez · Feb 7, 2016

I thought that the final would be a bit closer...

Smash or be smashed! · Feb 7, 2016

Monteiro felt himself defeated from mid second set on, looking at his face was enough to see it :-(

TableTennisDaily · Feb 7, 2016

What a great match! Crowd really behind Monteiro!

Epic point from the game!

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Smash or be smashed! · Feb 7, 2016

I'll have to swallow my words, he's fought bravely and come back to 3:2 now...

fanTT · Feb 7, 2016

How I feel about the final..

3:0 Dima: this is not interesting - i will loose one set.
3:2 Dima: shit..

Rayeez · Feb 7, 2016

Has the stream stopped for anyone?
It's not my Internet connection because Youtube is working fine.

Rayeez · Feb 7, 2016

It's back, don't worry. But I missed most of the set.

Ilia Minkin · Feb 7, 2016

Glad to see a genuine handshake after a match.

TableTennisDaily · Feb 7, 2016

Congratulations to Dimitrij Ovtcharov who is the 2016 Europe Top 16 Champion with a 4-2 victory over Joao Monteiro! Great final!

necax007 · Feb 7, 2016

Ilia Minkin said:
Glad to see a genuine handshake after a match.

It had to be. Monteiro saw that Dima was better and deserved to win.

TTLondon2012 · Feb 7, 2016

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