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      Adidas Rubbers

      Hi guys,

      It appears to me that Adidas is making name in the tt rubber market. I've heard and read many positive things about their rubbers. Apparently they have a soft series (R) and a harder series (P).

      I'm very interested in those rubbers and I think I want to try a P3 on my FH.

      Has anyone of you used Adidas rubbers and if so, were you positive about them as well? (with what blade and playing style?)


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      Wow seriously? Thats crazy that a brand like them is coming into the market. this is definitely a good start for it growing more in america, maybe other brands like nike n such will join in
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      Yes they got a lot of knowledge about many things, and they have the money to buy and expand knowledge in tt rubbers, so I'm curious. I'm sure other brands will join in when they realize the potential number of buyers, especially in Asia.

      Btw Dan did u add that picture? Haha.

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      Heard that P3 is speed oriented and P5 is spin oriented.
      Reported performance much better than Tenergy series 0_0.

      I think Adidas is more well funded ?
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      Yes I suppose Adidas is more funded haha, someone on another forum made the comparison between the revenue of Adidas and Stiga: 19.4 billion against 300.000 or 300 million, forgot what it was :P But it is big xD

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      Quote Originally Posted by WiWa View Post
      Yes I suppose Adidas is more funded haha, someone on another forum made the comparison between the revenue of Adidas and Stiga: 19.4 billion against 300.000 or 300 million, forgot what it was :P But it is big xD
      That is interesting! Would love to know what the revenue is of places like Butterfly are...

      Stiga on 300 million? i think that sounds to high... and 300.000 seems to low.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
      That is interesting! Would love to know what the revenue is of places like Butterfly are...

      Stiga on 300 million? i think that sounds to high... and 300.000 seems to low.
      Yeah I know, but it could be Stiga Sports, which is not only table tennis. And they sell evrywhere in the world, but still I have no idea. I'm trying to look some up, but it's not all that easy to find :P

      Edit: Adidas Group's net income 2010 was 567 million.
      Edit: Still no idea, but Adidas should have way more to spare than the common table tennis brands :P
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      Quote Originally Posted by WiWa View Post
      Yeah I know, but it could be Stiga Sports, which is not only table tennis. And they sell evrywhere in the world, but still I have no idea. I'm trying to look some up, but it's not all that easy to find :P

      Edit: Adidas Group's net income 2010 was 567 million.
      Edit: Still no idea, but Adidas should have way more to spare than the common table tennis brands :P
      Hehe definitely! Adidas are huge,, lets hope they put a lot into TT..

      i forgot Stiga are a lawnmower company to

      I like these tables :P


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      Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
      Hehe definitely! Adidas are huge,, lets hope they put a lot into TT..

      i forgot Stiga are a lawnmower company to

      I like these tables :P


      Photo: ADIDAS show-court table in Berlin (Photo Roscher)

      I really do wonder why adidas have invested in the sport they would have special talks at the head office and they must have realised a gap in the market for them where they can earn some serious money, it's so good for the sport! but then it might mean that more sweat shops in africa, china are set up so adidas could be taking advantage of more helpless people.
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      I'm all for Adidas making products and putting money into the sport, but my question would be, what products do they make that are REALLY (with capitol letters) good? Their sneakers are decent. I cannot think of anything else. Michelin is part of the Cornilleau company and part of making their rubbers, but the topsheet on their rubbers does not grip. Their rubbers are good for hitting the ball but not for spinning. Lets see what a company like Adidas comes up with.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carl Horowitz View Post
      I'm all for Adidas making products and putting money into the sport, but my question would be, what products do they make that are REALLY (with capitol letters) good? Their sneakers are decent. I cannot think of anything else. Michelin is part of the Cornilleau company and part of making their rubbers, but the topsheet on their rubbers does not grip. Their rubbers are good for hitting the ball but not for spinning. Lets see what a company like Adidas comes up with.
      That's a very good point Carl. Although I think this does show our sport is headed in the right direction (Growing!!)! YEAAAA!!! Companies see bucks behind it!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carl Horowitz View Post
      I'm all for Adidas making products and putting money into the sport, but my question would be, what products do they make that are REALLY (with capitol letters) good? Their sneakers are decent. I cannot think of anything else. Michelin is part of the Cornilleau company and part of making their rubbers, but the topsheet on their rubbers does not grip. Their rubbers are good for hitting the ball but not for spinning. Lets see what a company like Adidas comes up with.
      I cannot agree with you saying Cornilleau rubbers does not grip the ball. I play them myself, and I love looping them! I even played Tenergy 64 before, but I find the Cornilleau rubbers to be better. What rubbers of the Cornilleau range did you try, Carl?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Anders View Post
      I cannot agree with you saying Cornilleau rubbers does not grip the ball. I play them myself, and I love looping them! I even played Tenergy 64 before, but I find the Cornilleau rubbers to be better. What rubbers of the Cornilleau range did you try, Carl?
      I used Cornilleau Pilot Power and Cornilleau Pilot Advance. The Advance is better than the Power but they both felt a little too bouncy for short game for me and hit looping was fine, hitting was fine, but heavy spin on a loop against underspin was not good. I could do it, but the topsheet did not grip the ball anywhere near enough, at least not for my liking. I had every reason to want to like them. And I love my Cornilleau Hinotec All+ blade. But the topsheet on those rubbers did not feel like it gripped enough to me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carl Horowitz View Post
      I used Cornilleau Pilot Power and Cornilleau Pilot Advance. The Advance is better than the Power but they both felt a little too bouncy for short game for me and hit looping was fine, hitting was fine, but heavy spin on a loop against underspin was not good. I could do it, but the topsheet did not grip the ball anywhere near enough, at least not for my liking. I had every reason to want to like them. And I love my Cornilleau Hinotec All+ blade. But the topsheet on those rubbers did not feel like it gripped enough to me.
      I get your point Carl The Pilot Advance is surely a rubber you have to adapt to in a different way, and it takes a couple of days. But when you are more used to them, I think its just as good as the Tenergy 64. Just have in mind, that if you want the Tenergy64 2.1 mm effect with the Pilot rubbers, you need to get the rubbers in 2.2 mm

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      Guys, you can go to the following website and download the full catalogue of adidas TT

      http://www.tabletennis-sport.com/

      OR, those in India can go to http://www.indiatabletennis.com/inde...h=36&man_id=11
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      Quote Originally Posted by Anders View Post
      I cannot agree with you saying Cornilleau rubbers does not grip the ball. I play them myself, and I love looping them! I even played Tenergy 64 before, but I find the Cornilleau rubbers to be better. What rubbers of the Cornilleau range did you try, Carl?
      Well now that depends on the stroke you are using.
      Euro loops tend to hit the ball more because of the forearm play. Topsheets which are spinny MECHANICALLY (only when the sponge is activated) will be perfect for euro looping.
      In the other hand, chinese loops use more power and more brush on the ball. This explains why chinese rubbers are so tacky.

      However there are some euro loops which has more 'grazing' characteristics compared to hitting, the same goes to chinese loops.
      Everyone's looping style is just different, therefore how they see a rubber is different too.

      If all rubbers doesn't seem to be forgiving, one's technique could be the problem.
      Hope that helps, if you sense any mistake, feel free to tell me

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      I believe their football shoes and balls are used on pretty high levels. Anyway it's just what I heard, when I first heard about Adidas rubbers I was laughing as well, and maybe that is a logical first reaction. But the people that actually used them are mainly positive, so that sort of forces me to take it seriously, and I do. xD

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      Hi

      I´m playing adidas rubbers, but use the r4. This rubber is quite unique, because it has medium sponge (ca. 45°) and a realy soft topsheet.
      This kombination give a realy good feeling for the ball.

      All adidas rubbers are made in germany by ESN.

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      Ha. Yeah, I also see lawnmower Stiga product lol

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