Adidas Rubbers

lgreggs · Aug 8, 2011

This is interesting. If adidas do start making quality products it could be the beginning of more money coming into the sport.

Anders · Aug 8, 2011

lgreggs said:
This is interesting. If adidas do start making quality products it could be the beginning of more money coming into the sport.

Hope so! The sport needs it

WiWa · Aug 8, 2011

Agree with all of u. However I can't give u a review myself soon (might have raised some false hope

) because I will only be back in tt by the end of 2011 I think. But when I do get back I'd like to try them out since I haven't found a rubber that I really feel good about on my FH yet. So I made the thread more out of curiosity.

UpSideDownCarl · Aug 9, 2011

Anders said:
I cannot agree with you saying Cornilleau rubbers does not grip the ball. I play them myself, and I love looping them! I even played Tenergy 64 before, but I find the Cornilleau rubbers to be better. What rubbers of the Cornilleau range did you try, Carl?

I used Cornilleau Pilot Power and Cornilleau Pilot Advance. The Advance is better than the Power but they both felt a little too bouncy for short game for me and hit looping was fine, hitting was fine, but heavy spin on a loop against underspin was not good. I could do it, but the topsheet did not grip the ball anywhere near enough, at least not for my liking.

I had every reason to want to like them. And I love my Cornilleau Hinotec All+ blade. But the topsheet on those rubbers did not feel like it gripped enough to me.

UpSideDownCarl · Aug 9, 2011

And I agree with those of you who are talking about how, getting the bigger sporting goods companies involved in making Table Tennis products is a good sign for the sport.

UpSideDownCarl · Aug 10, 2011

Sorry, another analogy. I teach Yoga. Nike started making yoga mats a while ago. The yoga mats they make are slick. They look better and look more high tech than any other yoga mats. Their production came out with a finished product that is adequate, but it ooks better than all the other products. However, there are many yoga mats from small companies that do not necessarily look as good, or as cool, but that do the job they are supposed to much better. Interesting. And Nike has tons of money to pour into research and development. They only got the looks to be top notch, not the performance of their product.

But again, if Nike and Addidas and Rebock started making Table Tennis products it would only mean good things for the sport.

WiWa · Aug 10, 2011

Carl Horowitz said:
Sorry, another analogy. I teach Yoga. Nike started making yoga mats a while ago. The yoga mats they make are slick. They look better and look more high tech than any other yoga mats. Their production came out with a finished product that is adequate, but it ooks better than all the other products. However, there are many yoga mats from small companies that do not necessarily look as good, or as cool, but that do the job they are supposed to much better. Interesting. And Nike has tons of money to pour into research and development. They only got the looks to be top notch, not the performance of their product.

But again, if Nike and Addidas and Rebock started making Table Tennis products it would only mean good things for the sport.

I don't know how you can make cooler-looking table tennis rubbers

UpSideDownCarl · Aug 10, 2011

WiWa said:
I don't know how you can make cooler-looking table tennis rubbers

This is true. I am just saying that, I hope if they are making table tennis products, they are focusing on making them high quality, rather than just making money off of us. It would be nice for some companies out there to raise the bar on quality, without raising the prices. I am not sure how much better you can get than Tenergy, but if there was something comparable, that cost what Sriver costs, or Hurricane, that would be nice.

WiWa · Aug 10, 2011

Carl Horowitz said:
This is true. I am just saying that, I hope if they are making table tennis products, they are focusing on making them high quality, rather than just making money off of us. It would be nice for some companies out there to raise the bar on quality, without raising the prices. I am not sure how much better you can get than Tenergy, but if there was something comparable, that cost what Sriver costs, or Hurricane, that would be nice.

100% agreed

YosuaYosan · Aug 10, 2011

Remembering Butterfly's company suffer some loss from the nuclear reactor incident, I think its just normal for them to increase their price a bit.. For a while..

Anders · Aug 10, 2011

Carl Horowitz said:
I used Cornilleau Pilot Power and Cornilleau Pilot Advance. The Advance is better than the Power but they both felt a little too bouncy for short game for me and hit looping was fine, hitting was fine, but heavy spin on a loop against underspin was not good. I could do it, but the topsheet did not grip the ball anywhere near enough, at least not for my liking. I had every reason to want to like them. And I love my Cornilleau Hinotec All+ blade. But the topsheet on those rubbers did not feel like it gripped enough to me.

I get your point Carl

The Pilot Advance is surely a rubber you have to adapt to in a different way, and it takes a couple of days. But when you are more used to them, I think its just as good as the Tenergy 64. Just have in mind, that if you want the Tenergy64 2.1 mm effect with the Pilot rubbers, you need to get the rubbers in 2.2 mm

No matter what equipment you chose to play, as long as you are happy with your game, my friend.

Sorry for my bad english, hope you guys understand

UpSideDownCarl · Aug 11, 2011

YosuaYosan said:
Remembering Butterfly's company suffer some loss from the nuclear reactor incident, I think its just normal for them to increase their price a bit.. For a while..

Didn't their price on Tenergy go up before the Nuclear disaster?

YosuaYosan · Aug 11, 2011

I don't actually remember Sir Carl, but if Butterfly products is always that (the price), then I am mistaken.
Thank you for the info sir

WiWa · Aug 11, 2011

I don't think the nucleair disaster was the reason for the new price. In any case it was gonna lower the sales, so it wouldn't really make up for any loss.

Charlie · Aug 12, 2011

i think they just raised the price because they have superier products to everyone else and know people will pay to get more tenergy

comeglan · Aug 13, 2011

Hey Guys,
We're getting a small shipment of Adidas Rubbers because, according to the users, its better than tenergy!

Adidas P5 is a bit slower but spinnier than Tenergy 05
Adidas P3 is faster than Tenergy 05, comparable to Tenergy 64
Adidas Tenzone spin/control is equal to Tenergy 05 and the springy'ness/speed makes it a bit faster than 05 as well.
The 'SF' in tenzone is equivalent to Butterfly's 'FX'

This is just our test batch for reviews, meaning we wont be carrying too much stock(especially blades). So if you want one, act now.

First time purchasers with us will receive 5% off.

To view the Adidas stuff, go to here:

http://www.mtagsports.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=MTAG&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=preorders

azlan · Aug 13, 2011

Guys, you can go to the following website and download the full catalogue of adidas TT

http://www.tabletennis-sport.com/

OR, those in India can go to http://www.indiatabletennis.com/index.php?route=product/shoppica&path=36&man_id=11

YosuaYosan · Aug 13, 2011

That sure is one fancy catalog !

The cons --> They do not or HAVE NOT support pimpled rubber or defensive blades at the moment..
It seems that they want good money out of TT lol

Anyway its still good for the sport that a big company take a chance in TT
They won't be dissapointed

YosuaYosan · Aug 13, 2011

Anders said:
I cannot agree with you saying Cornilleau rubbers does not grip the ball. I play them myself, and I love looping them! I even played Tenergy 64 before, but I find the Cornilleau rubbers to be better. What rubbers of the Cornilleau range did you try, Carl?

Well now that depends on the stroke you are using.
Euro loops tend to hit the ball more because of the forearm play. Topsheets which are spinny MECHANICALLY (only when the sponge is activated) will be perfect for euro looping.
In the other hand, chinese loops use more power and more brush on the ball. This explains why chinese rubbers are so tacky.

However there are some euro loops which has more 'grazing' characteristics compared to hitting, the same goes to chinese loops.
Everyone's looping style is just different, therefore how they see a rubber is different too.

If all rubbers doesn't seem to be forgiving, one's technique could be the problem.
Hope that helps, if you sense any mistake, feel free to tell me

Steve23 · Aug 13, 2011

Definately interested in trying these rubbers

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