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    Build the best player

    This should be fun for a lot of people. Build the best table tennis player using strengths from current and former players :-)

    My player:

    FH Drive - Quadra Aruna
    FH Loop - Zhang Jike
    BH - Kalinkos Kreanga
    Serve - Waldner
    Serve Return - Fan Zhendong
    Block - Waldner
    Movement - Xu Xin

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    A short, spinny, low serve with pace... Works as well as a Ace

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    BH: Tenergy 05
    FH: MXP

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    Overseer, you have built your own Frankenstein's monster! Let's call it, KO's monster.

    Funny, all this time I thought that the 4 top CNT players were already Frankenstein Monsters.


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    Setup 1: Blade by Nate: Vortex Spin Machine, FH Evolution MX-K, BH Evolution FX-P
    Setup 2: OSP Virtuoso Plus, FH Rasanter R 48, BH Rasanter R 48
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    Xu Xin - forehand
    Wang Hao - backhand
    Ma Lin - serve
    Kim Taek Soo - block
    Ryu Seung Min - footwork

    this pen is mightier than the sword

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    Quote Originally Posted by countrybread
    Xu Xin - forehand
    Wang Hao - backhand
    Ma Lin - serve
    Kim Taek Soo - block
    Ryu Seung Min - footwork

    this pen is mightier than the sword
    Hmm... That's a mighty pen I must say. I think my player might have you on the backhand to backhand rally :-)
    A short, spinny, low serve with pace... Works as well as a Ace

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl
    Overseer, you have built your own Frankenstein's monster! Let's call it, KO's monster.

    Funny, all this time I thought that the 4 top CNT players were already Frankenstein Monsters.


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    I tried to fit Ma Long in there somewhere but I couldn't find one aspect of his game that's clearly superior. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think he's the absolute best at any one part of the game. But overall game...he's the best I've ever seen.
    A short, spinny, low serve with pace... Works as well as a Ace

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    BH: Tenergy 05
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overseer Kevin
    Hmm... That's a mighty pen I must say. I think my player might have you on the backhand to backhand rally :-)
    Athough Kreanga's backhand is a beast, Wang Hao's might be the best backhand ever. So steady, so much spin and control. It is hard to say one way or the other. Those are two amazing backhands. And Wang Hao's is definitely amazing over the table.
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    Brain : Waldner

    Rest : Does not matter :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl
    Athough Kreanga's backhand is a beast, Wang Hao's might be the best backhand ever. So steady, so much spin and control. It is hard to say one way or the other. Those are two amazing backhands. And Wang Hao's is definitely amazing over the table.
    Best backhand ever? Maybe, maybe not, I think Zhang JIke is better than Wang Hao on the backhand wing..but outright winners from the backhand...I'll take Kreanga any day. I'll give it to Wang, that reverse Penhold is nice. But Kreanga could pull it from anywhere, anytime! On the run, standing still, don't matter.
    A short, spinny, low serve with pace... Works as well as a Ace

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttmonster
    Brain : Waldner

    Rest : Does not matter :P
    Oh noooooo ttmonster... Waldner was a great strategist but that Applegreen guy used to give it Waldner tactically. If I remember right Applegren, in their prime was one of the few people who had a winning record against Waldner.

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    Last edited by Overseer Kevin; 04-20-2016 at 07:11 AM.
    A short, spinny, low serve with pace... Works as well as a Ace

    Backup blade set up:
    BLADE: DHS Hurricane HAO 3
    BH: Tenergy 05
    FH: MXP

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl
    Athough Kreanga's backhand is a beast, Wang Hao's might be the best backhand ever. So steady, so much spin and control. It is hard to say one way or the other. Those are two amazing backhands. And Wang Hao's is definitely amazing over the table.
    By the way Carl...got me a Carbonado 190. Had to try it. The sound is amazing...it's got that cracking sound like the pros on YouTube. Lol But it's not that nice for me away from the table (about 5-6ft.) 64 works good at that distance on the backhand, but hurricane doesn't do so well for me at that distance on the 190. Long 5 blade and the Zhang Jike SZLC are much better. But the handle is perfect...allows even weight distribution. Even with heavy rubbers like MX-P and Hurricane 3 the blade doesn't feel heavy at all. Even though it's actually heavier than both my other setups.

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    I think Ma Long is already a Frankenstein monster. Easily the best server in the world for me and impeccable footwork and forehand. Maybe we can replace the backhand counter hit or topspin with Zhang Jike but that is about it. Or we can replace his power level with Fan Zhendong but everything else is just too good.

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    Footwork - Ryu Seung-Minh
    FH - Waldner
    BH - Persson
    Serve - He Zhi Wen
    Serve return - Maze
    Mind - Waldner

    Coach? Liu Guoliang.
    Don't hesitate. If you want to reach your goal, just go for it!

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    My Choices would be:-

    FH Loop (3rd ball) - Ma Long
    BH Loop (3rd ball) - Kreanga
    FH (In rally) - Fan Zhendong
    BH (In rally) - Zhang Jike
    Serve - Kenta Matsudaira
    Serve Receive - Zhang Jike
    Block - Obviously Waldner
    Lobbing - Jun Mizutani/Saive (Cant choose!)
    Under the table/Disguised shots - Xu Xin
    Footwork - R.S.M
    Cho/Celebration - Zhang Jike
    Sportsmanship - Timo Boll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yecats Encerwal
    My Choices would be:-

    FH Loop (3rd ball) - Ma Long
    BH Loop (3rd ball) - Kreanga
    FH (In rally) - Fan Zhendong
    BH (In rally) - Zhang Jike
    Serve - Kenta Matsudaira
    Serve Receive - Zhang Jike
    Block - Obviously Waldner
    Lobbing - Jun Mizutani/Saive (Cant choose!)
    Under the table/Disguised shots - Xu Xin
    Footwork - R.S.M
    Cho/Celebration - Zhang Jike
    Sportsmanship - Timo Boll
    Ahhhhh....a worthy opponent!

    Hmm...that 3rd ball FH choice is hard to beat! Maybe impossible. Lol
    Excellent choice for serve as well. Only problem is he misses a bit much for me.
    Sportsmanship...yeah, you got it!
    Footwork...I can't agree. I think Xu Xin is by far the best. The ground he covers is crazy!
    Celebration? Watch the barriers and all that expensive DHS marketing. Lol Zhang Jike is going to kick the crap outta your signs. Lol
    A short, spinny, low serve with pace... Works as well as a Ace

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    Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel
    I think Ma Long is already a Frankenstein monster. Easily the best server in the world for me and impeccable footwork and forehand. Maybe we can replace the backhand counter hit or topspin with Zhang Jike but that is about it. Or we can replace his power level with Fan Zhendong but everything else is just too good.
    I've found that Ma Long is so good in match situations and technically at such a good level even compared to the other top pros, that he looks pretty average. No big weaknesses or big strengths making him look spectacular, because his entire game is spectacular.

    It's that effect you get when someone reaches for a very wide ball and barely gets it and he's said to have good footwork, and then a far better player comes along, rips the wide ball to oblivion and it just looks normal.

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    FH Loop (3rd ball) - Ma Lin
    BH Loop (3rd ball) - Zhang Jike
    FH (In rally) - Ma Long
    BH (In rally) - Dimitrij Ovcharov
    Serve - Kenta Matsudaira
    Serve Receive - EDIT: Fan Zhendong
    Block - Kenta Matsudaira
    Lobbing - Xu Xin
    Footwork - Ryu Seung Min
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    so... nobody's dream player has a chop?

    And when you build a player with specific footwork, doesn't that change which players forehand loop/other strokes you'd like?

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    Okay: dream defender
    BH chop: Joo Sae Hyuk
    FH chop: Shiono Masato
    BH hit: Yuto Muramatsu
    FH counterloop: Hou Yingchao
    FH kill: Yuto Muramatsu
    Footwork: Koji Matsushita
    Serve receive: Chen Weixing
    Serve:dunno, maybe Ádám Pattantyús

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuki
    so... nobody's dream player has a chop?

    And when you build a player with specific footwork, doesn't that change which players forehand loop/other strokes you'd like?
    We hate choppers! Lol! I'm traumatized by my coach when it comes to chopping... My loop drives are pretty good and strong, so he'll say. "Time to slow you down" Uh oh... chop (bottom side) uhhh Oh...chop (no spin)...uh oh chop (top spin) <---- got cha lol!
    Last edited by Overseer Kevin; 04-21-2016 at 05:46 PM.
    A short, spinny, low serve with pace... Works as well as a Ace

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    My player:
    Forehand: Ma lin's drive
    Backhand: Zhang Jike
    Serve: Ma lin
    Serve return: Fan Zhendong/ Morizono Masataka
    Mentality thinking: Walder

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