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    Quote Originally Posted by OldschoolPenholder
    Carl,

    You are too kind! I had no control and it was all over!!

    I don't know if they even count as 7 ... will see if i can try some more tonight just for the fun of it.

    Thank you Carl (and Shuki and NL)!
    OldSchool, perhaps you don't understand the point I made. LP are made not to grip the ball. Specifically NOT TO GRIP THE BALL. That drill can only be done with a rubber that GRIPS the ball WELL. Otherwise you cannot have the racket facing at an angle that forces the topsheet to grab the ball hard.

    On an LP rubber, with the racket angled for the drill, the ball SHOULD SLIP OFF the rubber. For the racket to be the proper angle for the ball to go UP, on the LP side, the blade face should be parallel to the ground WHICH IS NOT THE DRILL.

    So, again, YOU CANNOT DO THIS DRILL with a rubber that does not grab the ball. With the proper rubber, you also need good touch.

    You are not having trouble with the grippy side. Only be LP where the ball goes out to the side, because the racket is angled.

    In other words, use a racket with smooth rubbers on both sides or don't bother trying the drill. Physics says it should not be done with your LP racket.

    Watch and see if you can understand.



    A rubber that does not grab the ball and create its own spin cannot do the drill. The LP does not change the spin. So after the fail on the LP side, the spin is the wrong spin for the smooth side too. Which basically equals a double whammy.

    This is exactly why players who don't understand LP lose to LP. They push with the LP vs smooth player's backspin push and smooth player tries to push vs the LP's topspin push as though it was backspin.


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    LMAO at me, thank you Carl! Read too fast or old man memory or both

    I had fun regardless.

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    Get in more Karis in Black, everyone bought me out. Gearing down my TT, I don't wanna drive cross country starting out all broke off.

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    Today was a great tt day! Had so much fun and beat a visiting player who came to the club. He is rated about 50-100 points higher than me.
    Had the most insane topspin rally. First he looped into my wide forehand, i did a crossover step and counter looped it into his backhand.( He is a lefty) He then blocked into the middle of the table, Running back i smashed a backhand crossover topspin into his elbow, he blocked into my wide forehand again, I run back and hit a winner down the line!

    Also I finally learned how to do the reverse pendulum backspin serve! The key was to lean over more and push down the wrist to open up the angle. With varying between top-side and back i got so many serve winners against our service specialist, who is an old penholder with LP on the BH side. However he almost never uses it, as he is an old school penholder as well

    The leaning over aspect also helped me with my topspin pendulum serve, as I get a better angle for top and topside spin.

    As a side not I watched the video of Dan playing against Liam and it somehow helped my game xD can't rly describe it. Today i felt like I was Dan haha

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    #3706
    Quote Originally Posted by Boogar
    Today was a great tt day! Had so much fun and beat a visiting player who came to the club. He is rated about 50-100 points higher than me.
    Had the most insane topspin rally. First he looped into my wide forehand, i did a crossover step and counter looped it into his backhand.( He is a lefty) He then blocked into the middle of the table, Running back i smashed a backhand crossover topspin into his elbow, he blocked into my wide forehand again, I run back and hit a winner down the line!

    Also I finally learned how to do the reverse pendulum backspin serve! The key was to lean over more and push down the wrist to open up the angle. With varying between top-side and back i got so many serve winners against our service specialist, who is an old penholder with LP on the BH side. However he almost never uses it, as he is an old school penholder as well

    The leaning over aspect also helped me with my topspin pendulum serve, as I get a better angle for top and topside spin.

    As a side not I watched the video of Dan playing against Liam and it somehow helped my game xD can't rly describe it. Today i felt like I was Dan haha
    If you have no video, it never happened. Seriously. The number of things I remember wrong before looking at the tape is amazing. Stop being Boogarsaurus.

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    Okay, I was partly kidding. But you know what I mean...

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    haha jea i feel you people told me that the rally looked awesome. I like to believe them.

    Plus official match play is so much different from match play in training, at least for me. I should start recording training sessions...

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    Ugh, I wanna grab my paddle and play! but not until around next monday will that happen again.

    Don't worry boogersaurus, I believe everything you say is exactly what's fact!

    edit: damn my english is bad when I'm typing.

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    Can't believe how many of you aren't participating in a challenge with will not only help you improve, but win you christmas presents! Get those video's up here, I want to see which of my fellow TTD members actually like to improve >=]

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    Picked eldest daughter up from airport, home for holidays/winter break from her first semester at college ... didn't get a chance to practice more pancake drills - hitting the sack.

    just had a thought ... dayum i'm old !!! i could be old enough to be Shuki's or JeffM's dad!!!

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    Here are some random comments from my training session that will probably make absolutely no sense to anyone except me:

    - When receiving serves, I often do not get my elbow into the golden point position by the time I make a stroke on the ball. I tend to leave the elbow too close to my body and have the paddle below the table, causing me to lift all deep serves to my backhand off the end. The elbow needs to be out laterally in the golden point where it belongs.

    - Brett has compared the backhand loop to throwing a frisbee and NL likes to use the term "unsheathing the sword". In general, I tend to begin my backswing and "unsheath the sword" far too early, causing me to reach out for the ball and put it into the net. If you regularly put your backhand topspins in the net, there is a good chance you are rushing the start of your backswing.

    - When forehand looping against backspin, I am finding a larger backswing and a larger whip action in general to be useful.

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    My arm is a little better today. I've also practiced swinging slowly and safely to see what causes discomfort and what does not. I think the painless swings are mechanically better.

    I'm not sure I want to play with the arm being slightly injured because it could and probably will get worse, but at least I'm partly figuring out why I hurt myself.

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    Well Archos, ur injury is a lot easier than a cracked bruised rib or a penile fracture.

    As for being old, I pick up my 27 yr old daughter tomorrow AM... any of you drool over her I will make goon squad goonies look like kittens.

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    Owh have anyone here ever visited Zanzibar and how the condition of table tennis sport is!!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuki
    Can't believe how many of you aren't participating in a challenge with will not only help you improve, but win you christmas presents! Get those video's up here, I want to see which of my fellow TTD members actually like to improve >=]
    Hi ...
    I trying to improve each day but this is not the way i`m going ...
    I have big issues to hit slowomotion balls because of my Eye condition so i focus mainly on this

    On the video i put only the one i hit...but there are plenty i just miss. i can not correctly estimate the distance.
    But i have tried the challenge and it was poor. i`m unable to get the balls stay one the table in the backspin challenge i`m applying to much side spin so all goes down ... and with the pancake maybe 10-12 .
    So sorry no video there.

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    Hah, I guess.

    I'm actually very grateful that I got injured lightly enough to be useful. I managed to work around my pain entirely in my shots today by playing lightly enough and using very strict good and relax form, and when I did some shots with bad form, the feedback was direct to say the least. The injury is getting better rapidly so I decided to use the slight pain as a guide for one day, then I would rest the arm.

    On the backhand it wasn't too painful, but on the forehand it was very painful. I wasn't aware just how wrong some things that I was doing were, but I knew they were wrong. Found some solutions too. The pain was a good guide. However I will remember that working around pain in your movements is always a workaround, not necessarily the ideal. Still, I think a movement that over-stresses some muscles will always be worse than a natural, balanced movement.

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    As for being old, I pick up my 27 yr old daughter tomorrow AM... any of you drool over her I will make goon squad goonies look like kittens.

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    I think we need a video for that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgpg
    I think we need a video for that...
    Youtube would censor the brutal bloody mess in a New York second.

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    no table tennis today, i feel like sh*t

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