why P balls are about twice as expensive ?

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Originally Posted by violoniste18

In France, we are gonna play with P ball at september, so I take a look about prices ... I am very surprised about the price increase

Do you know why ?

Wait until you try to play with the Chinese seamed balls. Then you will feel truly screwed.

The seamless balls and the Nittaku Japan Premium 40+ are ok. But for some reason, and I really don't understand why, European leagues have had a tendency to choose to use European branded balls that are actually plastic seamed balls made in China by either DHS or Double Fish. They are not just expensive, they are horrible in every way.

Maybe your clubs and leagues will avoid them, probably they won't.

By the way, that choice is not the only one they have. Joola for sure markets a seamless ball that is not bad, in addition to the horrible Chinese seamed ones. Not only do the seamless balls play better, they last longer too, and a higher percentage are round, so for a club it is a better economic decision.

I have tried most of the balls on the market and have been playing exclusively with plastic for 2 years now. PM me if you have questions.

Playing with seamless poly balls saves money, they last way longer. I would go through a 6 pack of quality 3 star cell balls in under two weeks. If I got 1st or 2nd in a club tourney I always traded for balls.

A 6er pack of seamless poly balls last me more than a couple months.

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You should probably be able to find Joola and Tibhar brands of seamless balls in France for example below:

http://www.tabletennis11.fr/balle-de...ennis-de-table

I see they have Joola Flash 40+, also Xu Shao Fa, Schildkrott, and Xiom, all of which are seamless, good, and more or less the same. You can click the link where it says seamless for all their offers. They also have the very good Nittaku plastic balls (my favorites for playing characteristics). If you decide to buy Nittaku, make sure to NOT buy Nittaku SHA plastic (those are crappy Chinese balls).

The good Nittaku 40+ balls are called "premium" and they are made in Japan. These: http://www.tabletennis11.fr/nittaku-...ittf-3pcs-seam

At all costs avoid DHS or any other non-Nittaku plastic ball with a seam.

If i were you violoniste18... i would just buy celluoid balls.
If you are just starting to play, dont bother with those stupid plastic balls.
At our clubs we use only plastic balls and they break all the time... its ridiculous.

If im playing outdoors im using my old dhs * celluoid balls.
They are much cheaper and better.

Monster, I use Nexy *** of course. Since i get a good supply of them, why not?

I have sold six packs to club members who play 3 times a week. I sold a pack of balls to a guy who plays only with the heavy/solid Nexy ball and that was 4 moths ago. He is on his second ball of the pack.

I have to hit one on the roof of the bathroom or step on one to break one, only occasional hit on side breaks it. 3 Nexy balls last me a couple months, stepped ball and all. I play 4-5 times a week here.

XSF has a true bounce, but they feel a little too soft/not solid heavy for my liking.

Baal hit the head of the nail with a 16lb sledge hammer.

Seamless training balls for the most part are garbage. XSF makes our poly ball, but we wont sell the one star version, the QC is horrendous on those. One star poly ball equals MINUS 6 stars for real.

XSF has a true bounce? We must have different batches or something.
The only P-ball with a true bounce or bounce that is consistent similar to the C-ball is the Nittaku premium.
Every other ball that I have tried has a relatively inconsistent bounce.

The XSF ball is tried *** btw... were rly inconsistent and bounced rly strange.