Nexy Karis rubber first impressions

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Received a sheet of the final Prototype of made in Japan Nexy Karis rubber. Slapped it on the all-wood ALL-ALL+ Nexy Lissom and did league.

This rubber will be on market in 2 months. Nexy is the brand of our Korea Foreign TTA sponsor in Korea. I happen to be the Janitor and fall guy for NexyUSA.com and had to clean 12 toilets and pass two inspections just to get a sheet of this rubber.

Overall, this is a true modern offensive rubber. Not a Tensor, it is made in Japan. This is the first rubber from Nexy I will be happy to use on FH.
Very supple and dynamic topsheet. This sponge was hard, but they worked together. This rubber does all tasks well, but really shines in heavy slow spin openers, counter looping, and any stroke that you sink the ball into the topspheet and shoot it out.

First look at the rubber... I got with no packaging barebones style... maybe because there isn't a package for it yet, this sucka is a final prototype version, so what the heck would I expect? The first thing that strikes you is how nice the topsheet is. REALLY dynamic flexy supple. Reminds me of a new sheet of Aurus, that baby-soft and supple feel - excellent for wrapping around the ball for control and spin.

You do the toss ball and hit upwards with bat to spin the ball a foot in air and catch it. WOW. Spinny, springy. You bounce on bat, same. Yet, this is the ALL to ALL+ 5-ply all-wood Lissom blade we are using. Who says an ALL class wood blade cannot hit a ball hard ???

Warm-up... I really suck at FH to FH fast drive with little spin. I mean I REALLY suck at that stroke so much Korean coaches just skipped over that phase for me. So with a pick-up truck pinch of salt, take it for what is worth. Fast drives with little spin were OK, because the sponge is hard. If you strike right behind the ball, it will move out in a straight line like any other hitting rubber.

Serves... This sweet topsheet makes spinning the ball a breeze on serves. If you have the touch at impact and the timing to move the bat, you will really like the result - totally mechanical spin. This topsheet has next to zero tackiness. The topsheet wraps around the ball really well if you have the impact for it and you reap rewards.

Short touch... Der_Echte and short touch share very few paths, but in practice I can do this task well enough. If you get close enough to the ball and engage the topsheet, then move the ball, you are all over it. If you just hold the bat there, the ball will slide off or rebound out, depending on your angle. With the plastic ball, this is the norm, but with Karis on short touch, you gotta engage the topsheet or you are toast. Fortunately, if you have the touch and impact control for this, Karis makes it easy.

OPENING TOPSPINS !!! This is real strength of the rubber. You serve, you get the coveted long underspin, then you open slow and heavy. If you restrain yourself from going 120% on the opener, you get massive spin. You control the depth and height by your blade angle, grip pressure, power of swing, and how forward you go. I can say that on Lissom, Karis has a very wide range of ways for you to land this great shot. This is the bread and butter of my game. I spin heavy and win point on the spin, of get back a block to attack strongly.

Counterlooping - If you are fortunate to see what opponent is doing and select the counterloop shot, you will love it. you can loop to loop all day long. it is best to lay off the big power and let the abll sink into the topsheet before shooting it out. use less grip pressure and less power, you will control the world. Impact it a bit on the side and reduce grip pressure even moar and watch opponent go "Oh-Syht" and make an emergency quick long step to his FH side. Use your legs and hips and get behind the ball with force and finish with some wrist and you are now one of the most powerful masters of the world with only an ALL class blade.

Pushes and chops - If you engage the topsheet and take it off the bouce, you are there. If you are back from table and dig into the ball, you will get your spin.

Off-speed shots... close to the table, if you lay off the grip pressure and use a soft forward shot, you will get your knuckle ball or low spin ball that looks spinny. Off the table vs a faster ball, this is 10x more challenging. VS a slower ball, you got a lot more control

Smashes... vs that pop-up, if you step in and slap the pizz outta the ball and make that puppy scream, you will be there. Make no mistake though, this isn't Calibra LT, but you will finish your points.

Control looping with spin variation... I save this for last as this is the Dark Horse best kept secret of this KARIS rubber on a great ALL to ALL+ wood blade. You have such a wide range of spins to make from the same arm slot and squaring of your body it is silly. This ability to change the ball with little effort with the right changes of power and grip pressure throughout impact is a great asset for a player who chooses to vary the spin and placement with ease. Such shot selection wins points and sets up the next ball to control and win the rally.

Well, that was Der_Echte's first impression from a night at work. I intend to make my way up the east coast Late Sep and Early Oct for two missions to NYC and in between, so anyone who wants a first-look-see at this rubber can catch me in person before this thing hits the market.

Here are two pics of the rubber front and back side...

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The topsheet is similar in properties to Aurus. The topsheet is only OK grippy on glancing contact without engaging topsheet. You have to get the topsheet to wrap around the ball, then shoot it out. That requires a different approach then just a grazing impact. To make it simple, one has to delay their acceleration 1/100 to 2/100 a second to get the topsheet into action first.

Many players who spin the ball using non-tacky Euro/Japanese topsheets already do this very well.

Karis topsheet feels a little thinner and more elastic than MX-P topsheet.

I am disappointed that NL did not recognize all the hard work I did cleaning all those toilets and preparing for inspections... it wasn't easy just to get a single sheet of a rubber not yet on market.
 
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So does the topsheet have grip or not? Is this better than MX-P or not? Tenergy 05?

Can't you find somebody competent to review this thing?

I am not gunna say Karis is better than this or that. I think my dynamic performance review notes give anyone a good enough basis to decide whether it is worth it for them to try it or not to see if it possibly suits them. (But then again, why do we have all these "Is this setup Good?" kinda threads ??!!)

As for finding someone competent, all I could find on short notice to hold a bat were a small group of drunken monkey salesmen on TDY. I think they were trying to pimp Anti-Monkey Butt™... at teh end of the day, selecting Der_Echte for the review was about as close to a drunken monkey you could find on short notice.
 
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The topsheet is similar in properties to Aurus. The topsheet is only OK grippy on glancing contact without engaging topsheet. You have to get the topsheet to wrap around the ball, then shoot it out. That requires a different approach then just a grazing impact. To make it simple, one has to delay their acceleration 1/100 to 2/100 a second to get the topsheet into action first.

Many players who spin the ball using non-tacky Euro/Japanese topsheets already do this very well.

Karis topsheet feels a little thinner and more elastic than MX-P topsheet.

I am disappointed that NL did not recognize all the hard work I did cleaning all those toilets and preparing for inspections... it wasn't easy just to get a single sheet of a rubber not yet on market.

All that work for a biased review... j/k. Interested in the rubber and will hit when we next meet.
 
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All that work for a biased review... j/k. Interested in the rubber and will hit when we next meet.
Well, I did mention that Karis is worthy to be my FH rubber, that should say a lot.

Here are a couple moar pics of it on Lissom blade...

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Okay. Let's see if I can get Der_Echte POed at me: heh heh.

Man, I want to try that rubber. Who wouldn't want a rubber that has a Pot Leaf logo on it. :)

I know, Der_Echte is going to say it is a Palm Frond instead of a Pot Leaf. But every guy I know who smokes weed swears it is a Pot Leaf. :)

Well. I guess one man's Palm Frond is another man's Pot Leaf.

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But having the jersey with the logo, at least in NYC, has given me serious street cred that I'm sure I don't deserve:

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The pot leaf is why I don't use Nexy stuff. I usually test it, but when push comes to shove, even if I like it, I think about what message I am sending to my opponent by wearing that stuff. Given all the kids that play this sport, you can see why I don't wear it. It's unfortunate that they make that kind of stuff in Korea. Sometimes, I think the Nexy Designer Diary should be the Designer Drug Diary.

Can't wait till 4/1 next year...
 
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The pot leaf is why I don't use Nexy stuff. I usually test it, but when push comes to shove, even if I like it, I think about what message I am sending to my opponent by wearing that stuff. Given all the kids that play this sport, you can see why I don't wear it. It's unfortunate that they make that kind of stuff in Korea. Sometimes, I think the Nexy Designer Diary should be the Designer Drug Diary.

Can't wait till 4/1 next year...

Are you saying that the way the guy from Nexy writes product reviews is as if he is on drugs? [emoji2]


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Are you saying that the way the guy from Nexy writes product reviews is as if he is on drugs? [emoji2]


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Okay, look, I was clowning around and in trouble-maker mode when I made the comments about the Nexy logo looking like a marijuana leaf.

It's not, right! I know it isn't. The guy from Nexy is a religious guy and doesn't believe stuff like that is good. It really is a Palm Frond. And I actually think it is a pretty nice logo.


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