Which team do you think will win the China Super League?

  • Shandong (Ma Long's team)

    Votes: 32 31.4%
  • Bayi (Fan Zhendong's team)

    Votes: 51 50.0%
  • Anhui Longkun (Zhou Qihao's team)

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Shanghai (Xu Xin's team)

    Votes: 12 11.8%
  • Sichuan (Zhu Linfeng's team)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bazhou (Liang Jingkun's team)

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Tianjin (Ma Te's team)

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Jiangsu (Zheng Peifeng's team)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shenzhen (Cui Qinglei's team)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Luneng (Fang Bo's team)

    Votes: 4 3.9%

  • Total voters
    102
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The 2 toned ball is being used in the semi final and finals.

Fan Zhending pictured below in today's semi final final via cttsl.sports.cn

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The 2 toned ball is being used in the semi final and finals.

Fan Zhending pictured below in today's semi final final via cttsl.sports.cn

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Interesting...

How come they can make two-toned 40+ balls but not simple yellow 40+ balls?
I want a few of those.
Anybody an idea where i can get some of those?
 
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Two toned ball kills service advantage. That explains a lot...

What does that explain? When i was practicing with Thomas Keinath i didn't look better than Dan receiving Pär Gerell's serves. I doubt it would have been different with two-toned balls.
IMHO this is mostly for the spectators
 
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Finals preview (31 Dec 2016):

WT-Final: Shandong Luneng vs Anxin (14:00pm local time)

Player stats:

Shandong Luneng
Zhu Yuling (33:2)
Li Xiaodan (2:6)
Fan Siqi (2:4)
Gu Ruochen (1:4)
Gu Yuting (1:3)
Doubles(14:5)

Anxin
Liu Shiwen (25:8)
Feng Yalan (8:6)
Lin Gaoyang (2:5)
Zhang Rui (1:6)
Doubles(11:8)

Previous meetings (Shandong Luneng 2:0 Anxin):

Anxin 1:3 Shandong Luneng (9 Nov 2016)
1) Feng Yalan 1:3 Zhu Yuling (6:11, 11:6, 8:11, 7:11)
2) Liu Shiwen 3:2 Gu Ruochen (6:11, 11:9, 8:11, 11:9, 8:6)
3) Feng Yalan/Liu Gaoyang 1:2 Li Xiaodan/Gu Yuting (11:4, 9:11, 5:7)
4) Liu Shiwen 0:3 Zhu Yuling (6:11, 7:11, 9:11)

Shandong Luneng 3:0 Anxin (21 Dec 2016)
1) Zhu Yuling 3:0 Liu Gaoyang (11:9, 11:5, 11:3)
2) Gu Yuting 3:1 Zhang Rui (11:8, 9:11, 12:10, 11:8)
3) Gu Yuting/Li Xiaodan 2:1 Liu Gaoyang/Feng Yalan (6:11, 11:6, 7:5)


MT-Final: Bazhou vs Bayi (18:35pm local time)

Player stats:

Bazhou
Liang Jingkun (25:8)
Wang Chuqin (6:7)
Fan Shengpeng (4:7)
Cheng Jingqi (1:3)
Doubles (9:10)

Bayi
Fan Zhendong (23:3)
Zhou Yu (10:4)
Zhou Kai (3:3)
Xu Chenhao (2:1)
Zhao Zhaoyan (0:1)
Song Xu (0:1)
Doubles (11:8)

Previous meetings (Bazhou 1:1 Bayi):

Bazhou 0:3 Bayi (18 Oct 2016)
1) Liang Jingkun 1:3 Zhou Yu (11:13, 13:11, 6:11, 9:11)
2) Fan Shengpeng 0:3 Fan Zhendong (6:11, 6:11, 5:11)
3) Cheng Jingqi/Fan Shengpeng 1:2 Zhou Yu/Xu Chenhao (9:11, 11:5, 4:7)

Bayi 1:3 Bazhou (22 Nov 2016)
1) Fan Zhendong 3:1 Wang Chuqin (11:8, 12:10, 10:12, 11:7)
2) Zhou Kai 1:3 Liang Jingkun (8:11, 11:8, 7:11, 7:11)
3) Zhou Yu/Xu Chenhao 1:2 Fan Shengpeng/Cheng Jingqi (9:11, 11:2,2:7)
4) Fan Zhendong 1:3 Liang Jingkun (7:11, 10:12, 11:9, 11:13)


 
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Im not surprised XX lost his style has not evolved at all through the years. As for ML its normal to have fluctuations in performance, but getting destroyed in the last two sets, didnt see that coming. I think i like LJK more than FZD cause he has some finesse and more variety in his shots
 
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Certainly to a degree, but i think at this Level it's not so much of a difference.
SugaD is obviously in a grumpy mood today. At this level, it makes the most difference because what they struggle with the most is not what kind of spin is on the ball, but how much spin is on the ball. And this two-toned ball reduces the effectiveness of no-spin and backspin high toss serves, which is what Ma Long usually uses to keep banana flip experts like Liang Jingkun in check. These guys see the ball so well that if you can reduce their ability to be deceived, you are basically playing into the hands of the returner. And Ma Long relies heavily on his serve game compared to the youth who rely more on their return games. Something similar likely happened to Xu Xin - but I guess this is all speculation until we see the video.
 
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SugaD is obviously in a grumpy mood today. At this level, it makes the most difference because what they struggle with the most is not what kind of spin is on the ball, but how much spin is on the ball. And this two-toned ball reduces the effectiveness of no-spin and backspin high toss serves, which is what Ma Long usually uses to keep banana flip experts like Liang Jingkun in check. These guys see the ball so well that if you can reduce their ability to be deceived, you are basically playing into the hands of the returner. And Ma Long relies heavily on his serve game compared to the youth who rely more on their return games. Something similar likely happened to Xu Xin - but I guess this is all speculation until we see the video.

Not grumpy at all. :)
And agree to a degree. But these guys played each other more than once, so i doubt they really look at the ball's stamp a lot, or in this case how fast the two-toned balls spin, but rather the ball's flight path.
But then again at this level the smallest changes can take the biggest effect.
And you're right regarding ML's game depending on serve, but also others are facing this situation and deceiption is important for nearly all players at this level.
 
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