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      Quote Originally Posted by bobpuls View Post
      guys still ... on the butterfly web page is written that the core is from balsa ... and on the screen shots it looks like balsa.... so why is written it is kiry core ?
      This is one of life's mysteries, but there is no doubt that it is kiri. People have been confused by that for many years. For more than two decades the blade also had the word "perfomance" on it. Another mystery is why it took more than 20 years for Btfly to finally correct it.

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      I've been a DHS Hurricane Long 5 user for nearly two years now. I've experimented with the Stiga Carbonado 190, Zhang Jike Super ZLC, Inner force ZLC, and recently the Butterfly Viscaria.

      I love my Long 5 but last night I played with my Viscaria for the first time and WOW!!!!!! The control is amazing on my serves. The dwell time is slightly longer.

      The Viscaria is not as fast as the Long 5, and it's not as hard as the Long 5. But I think those are advantages. Now I know that no blade is absolutely perfect in every aspect, but what the Viscaria lacks in comparison to the Long 5, it totally makes up for in control. The Long 5 and the Stiga Carbonado 190 play exceptionally well off the table. Almost effortlessly. The Stiga Carbonado 190 plays more all around than the Long 5 and also has better control. But it's still extremely fast and I don't recommend it for beginners or lower level intermediate players. The Stiga Carbonado 190 is no joke. If your looking for an upgrade from the Viscaria, and if your skill level is adequate then the Stiga Carbonado series is something you may benefit from.

      Back to the Viscaria. WOW!!!!! Now I see why so many top players swear by it. Touch and speed!! Control and power!!!! It simply does what you tell it. The greatest advantage for me is the control and spin I'm getting on my serves. Reverse pendulum is my go to serve and it's simply on another level right now.

      Wish me luck, just starting to beat 1900 level players at my club. Unless they use long, medium, or short pips. Lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by Overseer Kevin View Post
      I've been a DHS Hurricane Long 5 user for nearly two years now. I've experimented with the Stiga Carbonado 190, Zhang Jike Super ZLC, Inner force ZLC, and recently the Butterfly Viscaria.

      I love my Long 5 but last night I played with my Viscaria for the first time and WOW!!!!!! The control is amazing on my serves. The dwell time is slightly longer.

      The Viscaria is not as fast as the Long 5, and it's not as hard as the Long 5. But I think those are advantages. Now I know that no blade is absolutely perfect in every aspect, but what the Viscaria lacks in comparison to the Long 5, it totally makes up for in control. The Long 5 and the Stiga Carbonado 190 play exceptionally well off the table. Almost effortlessly. The Stiga Carbonado 190 plays more all around than the Long 5 and also has better control. But it's still extremely fast and I don't recommend it for beginners or lower level intermediate players. The Stiga Carbonado 190 is no joke. If your looking for an upgrade from the Viscaria, and if your skill level is adequate then the Stiga Carbonado series is something you may benefit from.

      Back to the Viscaria. WOW!!!!! Now I see why so many top players swear by it. Touch and speed!! Control and power!!!! It simply does what you tell it. The greatest advantage for me is the control and spin I'm getting on my serves. Reverse pendulum is my go to serve and it's simply on another level right now.

      Wish me luck, just starting to beat 1900 level players at my club. Unless they use long, medium, or short pips. Lol
      Kevin, good to see you back. Sounds like you are playing well.


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      Great to be here and great to see you as well. I'm getting there slowly but surely. Feels kinda good when those players who didn't want to play me because I wasn't a challenge for them. Now they call me out. Lol

      11-9 or deuce in the 5th game is what I'm known for at the club now. Win or lose, you'll know I'm there. LOL

      I was so hesitant to try another blade because I've finally got over my "EJ" stage. And didn't want to ignite my inner monster again. But since watching Lin Gaoyuan and his game. And the fact that one of the clubs I go to has blades just sitting around begging to be bought and played with. The Viscaria just kept calling me. I held out for months hoping someone would buy it. But yesterday it was still there. Looking so lonely and unhappy. Lol So I rescued it from its glass prison.

      What a great thing I did. Now those shots that were going just long or clipping the net because of the speed of the Long 5. Well, the spin monster Viscaria just lays them on the table easily now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Baal View Post
      This is one of life's mysteries, but there is no doubt that it is kiri. People have been confused by that for many years. For more than two decades the blade also had the word "perfomance" on it. Another mystery is why it took more than 20 years for Btfly to finally correct it.
      Could it be that Bty accidentally wrote down the composition of viscaria light?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Suga D View Post
      Could it be that Bty accidentally wrote down the composition of viscaria light?
      I think it appeared as balsa in a Butterfly catalog I saw before there even was a Viscaria Light.

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