Videos of Lower Rank Choppers?

LordPippington · May 14, 2017

There are a good many pro chopper matches out there... but at the lower level, their style of play is pretty much non-existent! Nobody bothers to loop chops that much, and so for game strategy, I'm trying to find some players to emulate that are a bit more realistic. Say in the 1500-2300ish range.

Any ideas?

Ilia Minkin · May 14, 2017

Ilia Minkin · May 14, 2017

This gentleman (the chopper) was my first table tennis coach. He is probably 2300-2400 but it is hard to estimate. Hopefully I will meet him this summer (after 9 years or so). Although his game is quite oldschool, he can execute any technique in table tennis with ease. Including fancy sidespin loops from both sides.

pgpg · May 14, 2017

There are very few videos of U2000 choppers out there - the one I know of with several videos on YouTube is Sho Miyazaki (he's from around New York City). Going higher (2300+) is Earl Alto - like his style.

In the end, at lower levels you need to develop close to the table LP shots, since very few people will loop to you - why bother if they can simply abuse your BH with soft no-spin balls and wait for your mistake.

P.S. Also - look for Bogeyhunter channel on YT.

Suga D · May 15, 2017

Here is a vid of Markus Grothe.
He's not exactly low ranked. His TTR is 2072 which could be translated to about 2400 USATT but i think he fits in here too.
This vid is from his YouTube channel which offers a few more vids.

pgpg · May 15, 2017

In general, if you are interested in defensive style of play, I would definitely add OOAK forum to your list - plenty of threads about lesser-known defenders there (Markus Grothe included), plus videos/blogs of forum members.

LordPippington · May 15, 2017

pgpg said:
There are very few videos of U2000 choppers out there - the one I know of with several videos on YouTube is Sho Miyazaki (he's from around New York City). Going higher (2300+) is Earl Alto - like his style.

In the end, at lower levels you need to develop close to the table LP shots, since very few people will loop to you - why bother if they can simply abuse your BH with soft no-spin balls and wait for your mistake.

P.S. Also - look for Bogeyhunter channel on YT.

Are you saying at lower levels you need to develop a more offensive game with the LP? Since no one really loops the chops?

pgpg · May 15, 2017

LordPippington said:
Are you saying at lower levels you need to develop a more offensive game with the LP? Since no one really loops the chops?

Yes and no - being able to punish high ball to your BH is helpful, but also is ability to consistently push, block, roll, bump ( or whatever else these are called) with LP. After all, anyone who has any experience playing against LP will test your BH, and will exploit any found weaknesses.

And it's also not like they don't loop the chops - sometimes they don't loop, period, especially to your BH.

Nuke Skywalker · May 16, 2017

Asaf Azarsky classic chopper...2400

Nuke Skywalker · May 16, 2017

Kazuki Yokoyama

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UpSideDownCarl · May 16, 2017

Nuke Skywalker said:
Kazuki Yokoyama

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Kaz is awesome.

pgpg · May 16, 2017

I was debating whether to post videos of Kaz (who has hugely entertaining style) - but thought that OP wanted someone in 1700-2300 USATT range, and most of these guys are somewhat higher and face opponents that are good enough to produce traditional attack/defense matchup not that different from what you see at the pro level.

Don't know OP's level, but most likely he's looking for videos of NukeSkywalker, myself, and other 'aspiring choppers'

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suds79 · May 16, 2017

Well for not an elite pro, I like Jian Li.

He's probably out of the range you're looking for being I think USATT 2600 something. So he's really, really good but fun to watch.

Big FH, good chopper. Nice bump attack with the LPs vs backspin.

This is also a good youtube channel to sub to.

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Garrison · May 16, 2017

This guy plays in 4th german league, he has some videos on his channel.

UpSideDownCarl · May 16, 2017

pgpg said:
I was debating whether to post videos of Kaz (who has hugely entertaining style) - but thought that OP wanted someone in 1700-2300 USATT range, and most of these guys are somewhat higher and face opponents that are good enough to produce traditional attack/defense matchup not that different from what you see at the pro level.

Don't know OP's level, but most likely he's looking for videos of NukeSkywalker, myself, and other 'aspiring choppers' .

Based on the OP's OP, you are exactly right. 1500-2300 range is what he seems to have listed.

Well here is someone in the higher end of that range. But this guy can really make you want to commit suicide:

Philippe Dassonval:

Hahahaha.

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pgpg · May 16, 2017

Anyone knows what Philippe is using on his BH - some sort of long pips, I presume.

UpSideDownCarl · May 16, 2017

pgpg said:
Anyone knows what Philippe is using on his BH - some sort of long pips, I presume.

I have not seen him in years. But last time I saw him it was definitely some kind of LP. I can ask him though.

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UpSideDownCarl · May 16, 2017

Here is the answer:

DHS CURL P-4

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Vrael · May 16, 2017

Can anyone explain how can he be the best 3rd league player and beat strong 2nd league players (his opponent here 89% 2nd league) ?

UpSideDownCarl · May 16, 2017

Vrael said:
Can anyone explain how can he be the best 3rd league player and beat strong 2nd league players (his opponent here 89% 2nd league) ?

Philippe Dassonval is 2300. I remember watching him beat an Egyptian guy named Imad who is 2700. Sometimes that stuff is matchups and smart play by the chopper.

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