Back to Forum
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 49
  1. Dan is offline
    says #ForTheLegacy
     
    Administrator 4,332 6,823
    Dan's Avatar
    Dan is offline
    says #ForTheLegacy
     
    Administrator 6,823 4,332

    User Info Menu

    #1

    Butterfly Rozena Rubber Review

    Hey all,

    Here's our latest review on the highly anticipated Butterfly Rozena Rubber. This rubber uses Butterfly’s famous spring sponge high tension technology also used in the popular Tenergy series. The Rozena is not designed for Butterfly’s, traditional, elite player market. Instead Butterfly’s idea with the Rozena was to develop a rubber for less advanced players or for players who need greater forgiveness and less responsiveness in a rubber then say tenergy gives you.

    Watch our full video review below.

    For a more detailed review on the Rozena visit the TTD review Center.



    Have you, or do you use these rubbers? What do you think of them?

    The Following 18 Users Like Dan's Post:

    ajtatosmano2, akoozab and 16 others


  2. Ilia Minkin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 1,986 1,714
    I
    Ilia Minkin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 1,714 1,986
    #2
    That is quick!

  3. Ilia Minkin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 1,986 1,714
    I
    Ilia Minkin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 1,714 1,986
    #3
    BTW, I really like Tom's reverse serve at 11:30, next time you make a review please ask him to use it more

  4. Cktenders is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 24 17
    C
    Cktenders is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 17 24
    #4
    I feel mostly the same about the rubber in my short time using it. Quite similar to JP03, with a slightly bouncier short game and a higher catapult in the top end. Hope the durability is better than JP03. The rubber is quite light too. I feel over all your highest quality shots maybe capped compared to a t05 or boosted h3, in terms of speed/spin marginally, but your low quality shots will be better to a much more noticeable degree. My training partner agrees on the receiving end of the hits. My out of position shots now get a serviceable amount of spin where they may not prior with say a-Xiom Euro DF or JP03. I am not a great player so I appreciate the help in the lower quality shots over the slight cap on the top end. I was very worried this would play too bouncy in the short game, but with use it is perfect. It really plays quite tame with pushes. All of this is based on a sample of 1 red sheet in 2.1 (max sponge size I believe for this rubber) on the BH of a 92gr Viscaria. I flipped the racket around against my robot and the FH loop arcs were noticeably lower than H3, even lower than H8. Could really feel the catapult on FH.

    The Following 3 Users Like Cktenders's Post:

    BeGo, Dan and 1 other


  5. Zaid323918 is offline
    says Obey the Rules
     
    Advanced TTD Member 181 459
    Z
    Zaid323918 is offline
    says Obey the Rules
     
    Advanced TTD Member 459 181
    #5
    Dan which Bluefire did you compare the Rozena to? Great review but the one I really want to see is Rasanter.

  6. sanavasaraja is offline
    says ...bending air...
     
    Advanced TTD Member 311 281
    sanavasaraja's Avatar
    sanavasaraja is offline
    says ...bending air...
     
    Advanced TTD Member 281 311
    #6
    I really appreciate the comparisons! And 15 minutes is a great length for a review imo.

    Also I have a table tennis crush on Tom. His technique is beautiful!

    Thanks once again

    The Following User Likes sanavasaraja's Post:

    Dan


  7. Kaiwen is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 23 79
    Kaiwen's Avatar
    Kaiwen is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 79 23
    #7
    Dan, the Rozena is better for the forehand or backhand? what is your feel about this?

    The Following User Likes Kaiwen's Post:

    Andyzhao123


  8. yuri.saldon is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 209 327
    yuri.saldon's Avatar
    yuri.saldon is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 327 209
    #8
    Can someone compare rozena to 05fx?

    I see people comparing with tenergy 05 and sounds pretty much like 05fx.

    Maybe rozena is a 05fx with steroids

    Sent from my 2014819 using Tapatalk

    The Following User Likes yuri.saldon's Post:

    Andyzhao123


  9. Wasim Al-Haddad is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 0 2
    W
    Wasim Al-Haddad is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 2 0

    User Info Menu


    May 2017
    2
    0
    72
    Read 0 Reviews
    #9
    Hi I'm planning to get the Stiga infinity vps is the Rozena rubber good for this blade. If yes then is it good for BH

  10. bobpuls is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 896 1,373
    bobpuls's Avatar
    bobpuls is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 1,373 896
    #10
    good review ... but still it looks like it is still to sensitive to spin (counters) and still small amount of spin ...
    But you have fun
    Anyway ... i was awaiting Andro rasanter review which is i thing more interesting rubber then rozena.

  11. DragonOwen is offline
    says Electric Unicycles is The BEST!
     
    TTD Member 84 92
    DragonOwen's Avatar
    DragonOwen is offline
    says Electric Unicycles is The BEST!
     
    TTD Member 92 84
    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by yuri.saldon
    Can someone compare rozena to 05fx?

    I see people comparing with tenergy 05 and sounds pretty much like 05fx.

    Maybe rozena is a 05fx with steroids

    Sent from my 2014819 using Tapatalk
    IMO Rozena is different (which I'm happy about actually, don't like 05FX, at least on Apolonia blade with soft outer wood layers...), basically it's because the hardness of the Rozena sponge is muuuuuch closer to 05, than to 05FX, the difference actually IMO quite close to Butterfly specs of sponges of these rubbers: 05 - 36 degrees, Rozena - 35 degrees, 05FX - 32 degrees... Also the arc with Rozena is even more linear than 05, so this is another big difference with big arc of 05FX... So IMHO Rozena and 05FX don't have much in common, very different rubbers...

    The Following 2 Users Like DragonOwen's Post:

    AndySmith and thomas.pong


  12. Takkyu_wa_inochi is offline
    says Disciple of OYA sensei
     
    Master TTD Member 3,800 3,477
    Takkyu_wa_inochi's Avatar
    Takkyu_wa_inochi is offline
    says Disciple of OYA sensei
     
    Master TTD Member 3,477 3,800
    #12
    Thanks for the review Dan

    i see that there's been no review for Butterfly SpinArt (that I'm using)... Its been available for a while and also been using the Spring Sponge technology and I think its a very under-rated rubber; the price range is similar to Rozena . I'd be happy to have your opinion on this one as well.

    The Following User Likes Takkyu_wa_inochi's Post:

    Suga D


  13. John18 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 248 302
    J
    John18 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 302 248

    User Info Menu


    Jun 2014
    France
    302
    248
    1051
    Read 2 Reviews
    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Takkyu_wa_inochi
    Thanks for the review Dan

    i see that there's been no review for Butterfly SpinArt (that I'm using)... Its been available for a while and also been using the Spring Sponge technology and I think its a very under-rated rubber; the price range is similar to Rozena . I'd be happy to have your opinion on this one as well.

    Liu Shiwen used to use SpinArt on her BH right..??

    The Following 2 Users Like John18's Post:

    thomas.pong and ttmonster

    Last edited by John18; 05-20-2017 at 03:07 PM.

  14. Takkyu_wa_inochi is offline
    says Disciple of OYA sensei
     
    Master TTD Member 3,800 3,477
    Takkyu_wa_inochi's Avatar
    Takkyu_wa_inochi is offline
    says Disciple of OYA sensei
     
    Master TTD Member 3,477 3,800
    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by John18
    Liu Shiwen used to use SpinArt on her BH right..??
    yes I think she did, so did Ai FUKUHARA (FH). I'm using it for my BH... actually I'm trying a bit to play like LIU SW with BH. stay near the table, short stroke form. The rubber is very tacky, you don't need to use the full arm to put a lot of spin. with good wrist and timing you can get good power and spin. There is good control in block, or short game, and for BH serves its excellent.

    The Following 2 Users Like Takkyu_wa_inochi's Post:

    thomas.pong and ttmonster

    Last edited by Takkyu_wa_inochi; 05-20-2017 at 03:33 PM.

  15. Suga D is offline
    says Mind over matter
     
    Master TTD Member 3,913 3,233
    Suga D's Avatar
    Suga D is offline
    says Mind over matter
     
    Master TTD Member 3,233 3,913

    User Info Menu

    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Takkyu_wa_inochi
    Thanks for the review Dan

    i see that there's been no review for Butterfly SpinArt (that I'm using)... Its been available for a while and also been using the Spring Sponge technology and I think its a very under-rated rubber; the price range is similar to Rozena . I'd be happy to have your opinion on this one as well.
    I've been playing with it two years ago. It's really nice. But over here it's more expensive. It's in Tenergy price range.
    But a review of it would certainly be welcome.

    But speaking of reviews, now back to the topic:

    Brilliant review, guys.
    Actually i feel a bit tempted to try it now.

    The Following 3 Users Like Suga D's Post:

    TableTennisDaily, Takkyu_wa_inochi and 1 other

    Last edited by Suga D; 05-20-2017 at 07:43 PM.

  16. Suga D is offline
    says Mind over matter
     
    Master TTD Member 3,913 3,233
    Suga D's Avatar
    Suga D is offline
    says Mind over matter
     
    Master TTD Member 3,233 3,913

    User Info Menu

    #16
    One more question though:
    @tom: are you still playing with Genesis, or is the Rozena now locked on your blade?

  17. Dan is offline
    says #ForTheLegacy
     
    Administrator 4,332 6,823
    Dan's Avatar
    Dan is offline
    says #ForTheLegacy
     
    Administrator 6,823 4,332

    User Info Menu

    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilia Minkin
    BTW, I really like Tom's reverse serve at 11:30, next time you make a review please ask him to use it more
    Hey Ilia,

    Sure ill ask him to use it a bit more often Hopefully I can handle and return it

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaid323918
    Dan which Bluefire did you compare the Rozena to? Great review but the one I really want to see is Rasanter.
    Hi Zaid, good question I should have mentioned this. We used the Bluefire M2 rubber in the comparison. Awesome the Rasanter review will be out soon Thanks for watching!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiwen
    Dan, the Rozena is better for the forehand or backhand? what is your feel about this?
    Great question! You know, I think the Rozena is a great backhand rubber. I think the feel works well on the backhand, to block and punch well. It is easy to open against backspin to so I personally favour the Rozena on the backhand to the forehand side.

    Quote Originally Posted by yuri.saldon
    Can someone compare rozena to 05fx?

    I see people comparing with tenergy 05 and sounds pretty much like 05fx.

    Maybe rozena is a 05fx with steroids

    Sent from my 2014819 using Tapatalk
    We should have compared the Rozena to a Tenergy FX. The Tenergy FX rubbers are quite a bit softer than the Rozena and quite a bit different to one another as DragonOwen has mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wasim Al-Haddad
    Hi I'm planning to get the Stiga infinity vps is the Rozena rubber good for this blade. If yes then is it good for BH
    I think that's a great combination Let us know how you get on with your new setup.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobpuls
    good review ... but still it looks like it is still to sensitive to spin (counters) and still small amount of spin ...
    But you have fun
    Anyway ... i was awaiting Andro rasanter review which is i thing more interesting rubber then rozena.
    Thanks Bobpuls, the Rasanter review will be out soon, stay tuned

    Quote Originally Posted by Takkyu_wa_inochi
    Thanks for the review Dan

    i see that there's been no review for Butterfly SpinArt (that I'm using)... Its been available for a while and also been using the Spring Sponge technology and I think its a very under-rated rubber; the price range is similar to Rozena . I'd be happy to have your opinion on this one as well.
    I've only tried the SpinArt once a while back. Ill try and get a sheet and give it a go and keep you posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suga D
    I've been playing with it two years ago. It's really nice. But over here it's more expensive. It's in Tenergy price range.
    But a review of it would certainly be welcome.

    But speaking of reviews, now back to the topic:

    Brilliant review, guys.
    Actually i feel a bit tempted to try it now.
    Aha thanks Suga!

    Quote Originally Posted by Suga D
    One more question though:
    @tom: are you still playing with Genesis, or is the Rozena now locked on your blade?
    Tom is back to using Genesis he is playing in the London Grandprix this weekend. Tom is a sponsored STIGA player and uses Genesis as his go to rubber. He loves it.

    The Following 6 Users Like Dan's Post:

    anchorschmidt, bobpuls and 4 others


  18. ttmonster is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 4,429 3,683
    T
    ttmonster is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 3,683 4,429
    #18
    Absolutely brilliant review , I do agree with Suga and Takkyu that an Spinart review is not out there anywhere ...

    I myself have been playing with H8 on my forehand for a while and have been looking at other options ...

    Boosting a provincial H3 , Spinart , H3 Neo at 37 degrees ... etc..

    So if you can make it happen , it will be really good .... looks like TTD reviews are now becoming the gold standard in equipment review ... really liked the part where you compared it to other rubbers .. its gutsy !

    The Following 5 Users Like ttmonster's Post:

    Dan, Suga D and 3 others


  19. Dan is offline
    says #ForTheLegacy
     
    Administrator 4,332 6,823
    Dan's Avatar
    Dan is offline
    says #ForTheLegacy
     
    Administrator 6,823 4,332

    User Info Menu

    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by ttmonster
    Absolutely brilliant review , I do agree with Suga and Takkyu that an Spinart review is not out there anywhere ...

    I myself have been playing with H8 on my forehand for a while and have been looking at other options ...

    Boosting a provincial H3 , Spinart , H3 Neo at 37 degrees ... etc..

    So if you can make it happen , it will be really good .... looks like TTD reviews are now becoming the gold standard in equipment review ... really liked the part where you compared it to other rubbers .. its gutsy !
    I agree, I will look into Spinart, I have a friend who uses it, will have a chat with him.

    H8 on the forehand, nice! Great rubber! Yes I think comparing to other rubbers is really good as it helps users understand where the rubber sits. We have had a lot of requests to compare to other rubbers within the playing footage, so we thought we better crack on with it!

    Glad you like the review TTMonster!

    The Following 3 Users Like Dan's Post:

    Suga D, Takkyu_wa_inochi and 1 other


  20. Jaffar Lone is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Established TTD Member 79 184
    J
    Jaffar Lone is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Established TTD Member 184 79
    #20
    Seems to me after following all the reviews that the Rozena might be a safe choice for the backhand side. What i am curious to know, is that how it compares to the Tenergy 64-FX.
    Thanks for the review Dan.

    The Following 2 Users Like Jaffar Lone's Post:

    Dan and thomas.pong


Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Create a new Topic:
Title is required.