Who do you think will win the China Open 2017?

  • Ma Long

    Votes: 51 57.3%
  • Fan Zhendong

    Votes: 10 11.2%
  • Xu Xin

    Votes: 9 10.1%
  • Zhang Jike

    Votes: 4 4.5%
  • Dimitrij Ovtcharov

    Votes: 5 5.6%
  • Wong Chun Ting

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Timo Boll

    Votes: 6 6.7%
  • Koki Niwa

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • Vladimir Samsonov

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Other (Post Below)

    Votes: 1 1.1%

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I have no idea..
But LJK made my day as I saw after he lost first game, odds for his loss were 9,50!!!
So I put there some money and won huge, hehe..
For LGY I thought he would be able to turn it around, after 2 games odds were quite nice, but he didnt make it.
Same for Gardos, who lost to very good playing Cedric Nuytinck, very nice match too!
Aaaand..
Maharu Yoshimura surprisingly lost to Kim Donghyun 4:1 without any real chance..

What is wrong in China open?? :D
 
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I have no idea..
But LJK made my day as I saw after he lost first game, odds for his loss were 9,50!!!
So I put there some money and won huge, hehe..
For LGY I thought he would be able to turn it around, after 2 games odds were quite nice, but he didnt make it.
Same for Gardos, who lost to very good playing Cedric Nuytinck, very nice match too!
Aaaand..
Maharu Yoshimura surprisingly lost to Kim Donghyun 4:1 without any real chance..

What is wrong in China open?? :D

where did you see the odds ? on which site ? do you bet online ?
 
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Yep, today it was bwin.com ;)

Odds for LGY to lose were 9 too :)

LOL maybe its KONG Linghui betting against LGY and LJK, he has a bit too much debt... and he offered some tip to his 2 players...
 
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I have no idea..
But LJK made my day as I saw after he lost first game, odds for his loss were 9,50!!!
So I put there some money and won huge, hehe..
For LGY I thought he would be able to turn it around, after 2 games odds were quite nice, but he didnt make it.
Same for Gardos, who lost to very good playing Cedric Nuytinck, very nice match too!
Aaaand..
Maharu Yoshimura surprisingly lost to Kim Donghyun 4:1 without any real chance..

What is wrong in China open?? :D

I think it is the pressure to prove themselves. There are so many excellent players in the CNT squad. Yet, only few of them have a chance to play internationally. Others are basically training partners. Now imagine yourself to be a young player who worked his ass off on the way to the A squad. And you get the precious chance to prove your worth. At the same time you see the shades of the players who made it to the first team, but never made the next step (hello Yan An). So you know that if you piss away the opportunity, you are likely to sit on the bench for years, while someone else will shine. No doubt those guys crumble under pressure.
 
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I think it is the pressure to prove themselves. There are so many excellent players in the CNT squad. Yet, only few of them have a chance to play internationally. Others are basically training partners. Now imagine yourself to be a young player who worked his ass off on the way to the A squad. And you get the precious chance to prove your worth. At the same time you see the shades of the players who made it to the first team, but never made the next step (hello Yan An). So you know that if you piss away the opportunity, you are likely to sit on the bench for years, while someone else will shine. No doubt those guys crumble under pressure.

You will always have a chance to prove yourself, especially if you are as young as LJK. The idea that these guys are one and done is a bit overrated if you look at the history. The real issue is when you are beating teammates AND losing to foreign opposition and those teammates are beating foreign opposition and losing to you. The supernatural consistency of ML, ZJK, XX etc can give a weird impression of what is happening.
 
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I think it is the pressure to prove themselves. There are so many excellent players in the CNT squad. Yet, only few of them have a chance to play internationally. Others are basically training partners. Now imagine yourself to be a young player who worked his ass off on the way to the A squad. And you get the precious chance to prove your worth. At the same time you see the shades of the players who made it to the first team, but never made the next step (hello Yan An). So you know that if you piss away the opportunity, you are likely to sit on the bench for years, while someone else will shine. No doubt those guys crumble under pressure.
Withstanding that sort of pressure is part of the process to make them stronger mentally, you can either make it out the other end, or you don't.

Ultimately you know the expectation and you have to meet that high level of expectation while facing all these pressure without letting it to affect you. That's the gap between ML/XX/XJK and the rest, not necessarily the skills alone.
 
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She will probably end up losing to Liu Shiwen or Ding Ning . Cheng Meng looks like a younger , slightly less powerful and consistent version of Liu Shiwen and she almost messed it up vs Cheng Meng , so at this point I doubt she can win against LS or DN . What I would be really interested is in to watch Miu Hirano go up against Sun .. that will be very exciting if MH can be a little more consitent than she was in Japan open ...
Would love to see how Sun Yingsha performs in Chengdu.
 
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There were 17 Japanese players in the men's qualifiers and 7 made it through. Only two Chinese and neither made it through. For the Round of 32, there will be 11 Japanese players and 4 Chinese.

Since when are nations even allowed to let so many players play :O Is there no restriction?
 
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... but to be honest theses fan girls brought spirit to table tennis stands .

Or a whole lot of screaming and shouting for their idols!!
Crazy girls...
:)
Before WTTC i was a bit unfair towards the german fans by saying they could pick up a slice or two of how other fans root for their favourite players.
But in fact the german crowd has been quite loud and outgoing at the WTTC taking into account that the german mentality isn't that extroverted.
It's just that grown men make very different sounds than teenage girls do.
;)
 
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Or a whole lot of screaming and shouting for their idols!!
Crazy girls...
:)
Before WTTC i was a bit unfair towards the german fans by saying they could pick up a slice or two of how other fans root for their favourite players.
But in fact the german crowd has been quite loud and outgoing at the WTTC taking into account that the german mentality isn't that extroverted.
It's just that grown men make very different sounds than teenage girls do.
;)

Based on my experience at WTTC something I noticed. German fans are knowledgeable and care about table tennis for its own sake and are not just cheering for one player. Many were completely amazed by FZD (for example). Many wore the shirts of their own TT clubs (men and women). They also have their own way of cheering, rhythmic clapping that gradually picks up in pace and volume. They didn't just cheer for German players, either. They loved Samsonov. They tended to support Japanese players too. A bunch around me joined me out of pure friendliness in cheering for American women in a doubles match and actually got quite engaged in it (the Americans won). By contrast, the subset of Chinese fans who were insane ZJK fangirls* do not care about table tennis, they care about their idol. It is not the same thing. When he is not playing they get bored and restless and are a complete pain to everyone around them -- I suppose they behave like adolescents everywhere, except some of these people seemed a bit too old for this.

* (It is important to note that not all of the Chinese fans who attended the WTTC were insane ZJK fangirls. The ones who were could be easily identified by the ZJK fangirl paraphenalia they sport. Little plastic ZJK things they wear in their hair, ZJK t-shirts, little ZJK handbags that they use to store all their ZJK paraphernalia, etc. etc. Also their relative indifference to matches played by Ma Long and FZD, for example -- and certainly any matches where no Chinese were playing.)
 
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Or a whole lot of screaming and shouting for their idols!!
Crazy girls...
:)
Before WTTC i was a bit unfair towards the german fans by saying they could pick up a slice or two of how other fans root for their favourite players.
But in fact the german crowd has been quite loud and outgoing at the WTTC taking into account that the german mentality isn't that extroverted.
It's just that grown men make very different sounds than teenage girls do.
;)

Trying to imagine German women going gaga for Boll... trying really hard...
 
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See if this helps ...

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Trying to imagine German women going gaga for Boll... trying really hard...
 
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