China Open 2017

rainneverever · Jun 21, 2017

Glad that you don't think all the Chinese fans are insane...
BTW, could you share with us the estimate number or ratio of ZJK fangirls and non-ZJK fangirls? 100 vs 1? 100 vs 50? 100 vs 100? You know, many people are saying nowadays ZJK is the reason for Chinese people to watch TT and non-ZJK fangirls don't exist.

Baal said:
* (It is important to note that not all of the Chinese fans who attended the WTTC were insane ZJK fangirls. The ones who were could be easily identified by the ZJK fangirl paraphenalia they sport. Little plastic ZJK things they wear in their hair, ZJK t-shirts, little ZJK handbags that they use to store all their ZJK paraphernalia, etc. etc. Also their relative indifference to matches played by Ma Long and FZD, for example -- and certainly any matches where no Chinese were playing.)

ajtatosmano2 · Jun 21, 2017

JeffM said:
Tomorrow's match:

The everlasting Samsonov vs the rising star Harimoto

Cannot wait!!

Harimoto will win 4-2.

TTHopeful · Jun 21, 2017

ajtatosmano2 said:
Harimoto will win 4-2.

What time does the game start?

Baal · Jun 22, 2017

rainneverever said:
Glad that you don't think all the Chinese fans are insane...
BTW, could you share with us the estimate number or ratio of ZJK fangirls and non-ZJK fangirls? 100 vs 1? 100 vs 50? 100 vs 100? You know, many people are saying nowadays ZJK is the reason for Chinese people to watch TT and non-ZJK fangirls don't exist.

Hard to say. In Dusseldorf on the days I was there I saw a large Chinese cheering section, only a fraction of whom were hardcore ZJK fangirls with the little head pieces and ZJK handbags and stuff and who seemed to have no interest in anyone else or the sport in general. 10 to 20% maybe? I really have no idea. But they ran in packs of 10-30 (which I also noticed often seated away from the main Chinese cheering section even on the day where you could sit anywhere and move around). And, their pack behavior magnified their impact on people trying to watch other matches. This will be my last comment on this but it was pretty unbelievable. Now of course I have no idea how many people in the Chinese cheering section traveled all the way from China.

By the way in case you think I am anti-Chinese, know that I am married to a Chinese person and travel their at least every couple of years. Also ZJK has long been one of my favorite players. Still, if ZJK is the only reason people watch TT in China, our sport is in trouble! (And also, I would go to Chengdu if money was no object to see the China Open, it being in my favorite part of China).

allencorn · Jun 22, 2017

I wonder how Japan picks their doubles teams. They seem to mix it up a lot, at least in this event.

ajtatosmano2 · Jun 22, 2017

Ma Long decided using the his BH serve. 1-1 against Tazoe Kenta, who plays very well. In the first set he struggled with short game, but now he found himself.

EDIT: I hoped ML will struggle . He didn't: 4-1

Ilia Minkin · Jun 22, 2017

Chen Meng is now in an epic battle with Suh Hyowon. At 3-2 now both look extremely tired and Chen Meng regularly holds her shoulder

Ilia Minkin · Jun 22, 2017

That moment whe you are watching a match, ZJK enters the arena and those fangirls make you to halve volume of the sound.

yourock · Jun 22, 2017

I enjoyed being on site watching the game. I find it less intriguing to watch table tennis on TV

TableTennisDaily · Jun 22, 2017

Round of 32 Results

Ma Long vs Kenta Tazoe (4-1)
Lam Siu Hang vs Yuya Oshima (2-4)
Kristian Karlsson vs Asuka Sakai (4-0)
Tonin Ryuzaki vs Dimitrij Ovtcharov (2-4)

Wong Chun Ting vs Lim Jonghoon (4-2)
Cedric Nuytinck vs Kenta Matsudaira (0-4)
Stefan Fegerl vs Jin Ueda (1-4)
Masaki Yoshida vs Zhang Jike (4-0)

Xu Xin vs Emmanuel Lebesson (4-0)
Tomokazu Harimoto vs Vladimir Samsonov (4-3)
Yuto Muramatsu vs Antoine Hachard (4-1)
Ho Kwan Kit vs Koki Niwa (1-4)

Timo Boll vs Jiang Tianyi (4-3)
Omar Assar vs Tiago Apolonia (4-3)
Simon Gauzy vs Donghyun Kim (2-4)
Asuka Machi vs Fan Zhendong (2-4)

yourock · Jun 22, 2017

Baal said:
Based on my experience at WTTC something I noticed. German fans are knowledgeable and care about table tennis for its own sake and are not just cheering for one player. Many were completely amazed by FZD (for example). Many wore the shirts of their own TT clubs (men and women). They also have their own way of cheering, rhythmic clapping that gradually picks up in pace and volume. They didn't just cheer for German players, either. They loved Samsonov. They tended to support Japanese players too. A bunch around me joined me out of pure friendliness in cheering for American women in a doubles match and actually got quite engaged in it (the Americans won). By contrast, the subset of Chinese fans who were insane ZJK fangirls* do not care about table tennis, they care about their idol. It is not the same thing. When he is not playing they get bored and restless and are a complete pain to everyone around them -- I suppose they behave like adolescents everywhere, except some of these people seemed a bit too old for this.

* (It is important to note that not all of the Chinese fans who attended the WTTC were insane ZJK fangirls. The ones who were could be easily identified by the ZJK fangirl paraphenalia they sport. Little plastic ZJK things they wear in their hair, ZJK t-shirts, little ZJK handbags that they use to store all their ZJK paraphernalia, etc. etc. Also their relative indifference to matches played by Ma Long and FZD, for example -- and certainly any matches where no Chinese were playing.)

Hey, I was annoyed by ZJK's girl fans too. Most of them look like having no interest in the game itself, purely for chasing their idol. God. I know ZJK was or may still be a good player, but national team should not lead player to a wrong way. When a player stops playing, most likely his charm and popularity would be gradually gone.

bubbas · Jun 22, 2017

What happend to ZJK match against MY?

RidTheKid · Jun 22, 2017

I wonder that as well.

bubbas said:
What happend to ZJK match against MY?

ajtatosmano2 · Jun 22, 2017

bubbas said:
What happend to ZJK match against MY?

It seems it ended. Maybe injury? I just opened the ittv, the scoring board showed 10-7. Might be that ZJK tried to play with injury, but after losing the first set he gave up.

Michal_Z · Jun 22, 2017

I think Zhang is done..
Odds were 8,75 for Masaki Yoshida, I bet at him but not sure if they will not cancel this bet, lol..
Zhang looked like he didnt overcome yesterdays hangover yet.. or maybe had too much sex with all those fangirls or whatever..

Simply - I think Zhang is done..

ajtatosmano2 · Jun 22, 2017

Michal_Z said:
I think Zhang is done..
Odds were 8,75 for Masaki Yoshida, I bet at him but not sure if they will not cancel this bet, lol..
Zhang looked like he didnt overcome yesterdays hangover yet.. or maybe had too much sex with all those fangirls or whatever..

Simply - I think Zhang is done..

So he just gave up? Because of losing the first set?

yourock · Jun 22, 2017

This is his fate.

bricephan · Jun 22, 2017

ajtatosmano2 said:
So he just gave up? Because of losing the first set?

as usual...

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Dan · Jun 22, 2017

The injuries of Zhang Jike are such a shame. It is great for the sport with ZJK going far in the events, it will increase the fan engagement to. What injury is it ZJK suffering from exactly does anyone know?

bubbas · Jun 22, 2017

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