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    Quote Originally Posted by frankhond
    @Chen Chen a most informative thread! But for me there is a question how to continue with Chinese rubbers. I currently found a nice setup with H8 on a powerful 5 ply blade (Stiga Exclusive). But. The H8 is heavy and total weight is ≈199g. The blade is 91g so each cut sheet of rubber is 54g. It would be nice to have something a little lighter. I realize H3 is slower than H8 unless you boost. But I hate the smell of booster, including factory booster. H3 Neo absolutely stinks. H8 on the other hand doesn’t stink, plays well, but is heavy.

    Here is the question then.

    Is it possible to put together some lighter combo of unboosted H3 (say provincial blue sponge on FH and provincial orange sponge at 37-38 hardness on BH) that would play well? Or are those rubbers designed to be boosted and the whole idea is moot? Or is 199g totally fine and I should just stick with it?

    I’m still a developing player and don’t mind working a bit to build technique, as long as the setup makes sense.
    the booster do not smell ... the sponge it self smells but not the booster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mky
    Any more information available?
    Butterfly will release Lin Gaoyuan ALC and LGY himself was already using it in the Asian Championship.

    https://www.butterfly.co.jp/products/detail/37041.html

    TTD has a thread talked about the news of this blade.

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    #383
    Quote Originally Posted by bobpuls
    the booster do not smell ... the sponge it self smells but not the booster.
    Whatever they do to the Neo (and for example Jupiter 2) smells really bad. H8 doesn’t smell like that, neither do the provincial H3 rubbers that my coach uses. I have a whole thread about this topic so we needn’t debate that here.

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    #384
    Quote Originally Posted by bobpuls
    the booster do not smell ... the sponge it self smells but not the booster.
    what booster are you using? I used several chinese tuners and they all smell/stink, seamoon, lidu, dianchi

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    You can fool ITTF some time, you can't fool ITTF all the time.
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    #387
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    When boosting a new sheet of H3 neo with falco temp long, should I be removing the plastic film which protects the topsheet?
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    Yes.

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    Could I ask why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin el mago
    Could I ask why?
    To my understanding is that by leaving the plastic film on, you're not letting the booster do what it's intended which is to stretch the topsheet giving that trampoline effect.

    Furthermore, I'd imagine that'd put a lot of stress on the glue joints from pips to sponge when the sponge is trying to expand but the topsheet can't expand with it all because the film is still attached.
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    Make sense, thanks.

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    Mr G_Zhang, I'd like to hear your opinion on XX's blade dynsty carbon. Is it widely used in China? I heard STIGA is really big in China...

    How do the Chinese TT community think about this blade? Especially compared with viscaria. (which I think is also a very famous blade in China? but I also heard butterfly brand is not very well received in China?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by suds79
    To my understanding is that by leaving the plastic film on, you're not letting the booster do what it's intended which is to stretch the topsheet giving that trampoline effect.

    Furthermore, I'd imagine that'd put a lot of stress on the glue joints from pips to sponge when the sponge is trying to expand but the topsheet can't expand with it all because the film is still attached.
    I always remove the thin film because of booster absorption. For that case, i use the old h3 version instead becUae it absorbs booster better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamasaki_Fanz
    Mr G_Zhang, I'd like to hear your opinion on XX's blade dynsty carbon. Is it widely used in China? I heard STIGA is really big in China...

    How do the Chinese TT community think about this blade? Especially compared with viscaria. (which I think is also a very famous blade in China? but I also heard butterfly brand is not very well received in China?)
    Clipper wood is still famous in China although Stiga products are much more expensive there if I am not mistaken. I think Butterfly is well received since a lot of people pkay with Viscaria there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    Clipper wood is still famous in China although Stiga products are much more expensive there if I am not mistaken. I think Butterfly is well received since a lot of people pkay with Viscaria there.
    A lot of people in Indonesia are 'illegally' selling butterfly blades they bought from Chinese market. They do it because Chinese butterfly is cheaper than here in Indonesia. (Hence the presumption that butterfly is not very well received there, thus decreasing the price)

    In Indonesia butterfly is like the no 1 blade. Amongst the blade brands, STIGA is the least go-to blade, making it difficult to sell (both new and used blade)
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    Yes, dynasty carbon is quite popular for Chinese penholders. Most people bought the blade because of XX.
    But it is not that popular among the shakehanders.

    Butterfly is very well received in China. You will see more than 50% people using butterfly blades for those with certain skills.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hamasaki_Fanz
    Mr G_Zhang, I'd like to hear your opinion on XX's blade dynsty carbon. Is it widely used in China? I heard STIGA is really big in China...

    How do the Chinese TT community think about this blade? Especially compared with viscaria. (which I think is also a very famous blade in China? but I also heard butterfly brand is not very well received in China?)
    Feel free to ask me anything about Chinese equipment... Hurricane, w968, 506, n301....

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    On the top 5 Chinese players, 2 of them use Butterfly blade and rubber on the backhand. Zhang Jike used too and Harimoto and Lin Yun Ju are chinese in my opinion. Butterfly is for sure the strongest brand on the world.
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    Hi, can anyone compare the difference between a N301 provincial or national with the xu xin dynasty carbon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinDanKid
    Hi, can anyone compare the difference between a N301 provincial or national with the xu xin dynasty carbon?
    it's very different, N301 is inner layer carbon, XX dynasty carbon is outer layer carbon. XX is way faster and has more carbon feel than N301

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamasaki_Fanz
    it's very different, N301 is inner layer carbon, XX dynasty carbon is outer layer carbon. XX is way faster and has more carbon feel than N301
    I thought that the dynasty carbon had a really woody feel from some reviews I looked at before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinDanKid
    I thought that the dynasty carbon had a really woody feel from some reviews I looked at before.
    compared to viscaria (or similar construction carbon blade), yes.. but it's still a carbon blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamasaki_Fanz
    compared to viscaria (or similar construction carbon blade), yes.. but it's still a carbon blade.
    Ok thanks, can anyone else who has played with these blades offer some feedback?

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