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Thanks for your help. Some of the prices on prott are quite good now.
Thanks for your help. Some of the prices on prott are quite good now.
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I wonder why H3 Neo in 36-38 degrees is so rare, kind of hard to find. Is the 39 degrees version not still too hard for the common amateur player? I heard many provincial male players use 38 on FH and women 36-37
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You mean 36-38 degrees for fh rubber? I don't believe 39 is too hard if you boost it. I use 41 degree boosted and it works 
You could use the red 37 degree for fh of course.
You could use the red 37 degree for fh of course.
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I could be wrong, but it seems that a troll is being fed here.
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I mean 2 mistakes in 1 question looks a bit like it's done on purpose.
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Yes but I wanted to fish some before making sure
No i didn t mean to troll, i just got it all mixed up. i was just checking tons of different blades and i made a mistake ... twice...
I meant the actual difference between hl5 and w968. the material? the way it was made ? someone said faster, so there must be a reason why it is faster . thanks for the replies.
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Ah, i see. No worries. Stuff like that happens.
Anyways, there already have been multiple threads around this topic, so i will post a link to one of the more recent ones and quote a few posts to contribute to the clarification, but Chen Chen and G_Zhang or GiangT should be able to help out here.
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https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...4-W968-vs-Hurricane-Long-5-commercial-version
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Sorry for later reply.
As I wrote earlier, it's my first W968 (provincial version, letters) which was ordered from ProTT.
To compare I bought from Chen Chen (thanks for him for good service).
W968 (provincial version aka W968 letters) from Chen Chen weighs 90gr, and thickness is 6.01mm, which corresponds to the info card in blade box.
I plan to glue the blade from Chen Chen in about 2 months, and there will be information to comparison.
From ProTT anti-counterfeiting code was already opened, about it ProTT warned me before buying.
But, If anti-counterfeiting code was checked earlier, in second try, DHS web site only response, that this code was already checked.
And when I try to check this code, DHS web site response me same information, that the code was already checked.
I do not want to say that ProTT sell fake blades, I just don't know how to detect W968 legit or not legit.
So I created this thread.
In blade from Chen Chen anti-counterfeiting code has not been opened, and checking in DHS web site response me that product is legit.
I'm playing ProTT version now.
W968 prov version slower than HL5, and have more control.
It took about 1.5 months since I started playing on W968, and yesterday I try to play HL5 with the same rubbers.
And I more pleased to play at W968, it has more control, more feeling, HL5 is stiffer and faster.
W968 is easier to use.
Also, next time, I plan to use varnish (lacquer) to protect blade.
Because the surface of DHS blades (W968 also HL5) deteriorates during the removal of the rubbers.
Please, share info, who uses what varnish (lacquer).
1std photo blade from Chen Chen weighs 90gr, thickness 6.01mm
2nd photo blade from ProTT weighs 92gr, thickness 6.03mm (old photo, when I just received blade, in a protective film, it was new)
3rd photo actual photo of blade from ProTT, I'm playing on it, so it's dirty
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Since you seem to know pretty much and i am quite new to the scene, do mind if i asked why the zjk super zlc is so expensive yet no one seem to play with it and much cheaper models like the viscaria or the innerforce are much more popular
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Nah, what i know is that i don't know a lot at all. There are people that know a lot more than i do, but nevertheless i still will add my 2ct.
I think you've given one of the reasons for this yourself.
See, not everyone likes to cough up 300 bucks for a blade.
More expensive doesn't always necessarily mean better. That being said, better for what?
An adult beginner that wants to get better can find less expensive blades that are better suiting for a developing player. A young beginner might adapt sooner to the blade, but still there are blades that would fit better.
And an advanced player that already has the basics down doesn't really need a blade with such a huge sweet spot plus ZLC is generally not a cheap material, so blades that are less expensive would do the job too, if not better IMHO.
But that's just my personal opinion, so rather take this with a pinch of salt.
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Thanks for the quick reply, just one question remains is it actually a worse blade since no pro i can think of is using this blade.
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Super zlc is super stiff and bouncy. The dwell time is short therefore less control. It's good at medium power range, such as blocking and amateur hit-based spin. But it reacts very bad with full power stroke like the pros usually do. Because the dwell time is so short, the ball bounce off the blade before you finish the full stroke.
That's why pro players would want something with less speed and stiffness, but with a decent control. A good balance between speed and control is essential. That's why blades like viscaria and innerforce series are so popular.
That's why pro players would want something with less speed and stiffness, but with a decent control. A good balance between speed and control is essential. That's why blades like viscaria and innerforce series are so popular.
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Another possible reason it's more expensive is because they can market it as a 'super' blade and then charge a 'super' price. I've played with several super zlcs and their sweetspot is very good but their speed and stiffness are just too much for most people to handle including pros so forget lame fish like me. I will say though that there are a decent number of people who do buy the blade at the beginner level because they think the blade will help them play better and due to the high speed and big sweetspot it does help them out with getting the ball onto the the other side of the table. Of course, as the level goes up then they realize its hard to loop or hit hard in general with such a fast blade. Then there's also some players who are older and can't move and hit the ball as hard so a blade like this helps them out (From what I've seen at a few clubs it is the older guys using it though that could just be cuz they got the cash for such a blade). Oh and there is one pro who I know of who uses the blade: Wong Chun Ting.
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I think Wong Chun Ting is using ZJK ALC?
https://en.butterflymag.com/2016/11/the-wong-chun-ting-story/
https://en.butterflymag.com/2016/11/the-wong-chun-ting-story/
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