Chinese Pro Equipment - Rubbers and Blades

shinshiro · Mar 1, 2020

I have a question about H3 Neo Provincial 37º: is it available in black too? Or only in red?
I'm asking because I saw this rubber in a supposedly reliable online store and it had only in red. A forum member on mytt also sell it and only has in red too. But later I saw on Aliexpress that there are some stores that have it in black, but I'm not sure if they are genuine...

LinDanKid · Mar 1, 2020

From my understanding it usually only comes in red for the backhand side with the softer sponge.

mlax · Mar 2, 2020

Hamasaki_Fanz said:
it's very different, N301 is inner layer carbon, XX dynasty carbon is outer layer carbon. XX is way faster and has more carbon feel than N301

this is completely inaccurate. DC is significantly less carbon-feels compared to the N301 or really almost any other blade with the exception of the good old WSC.

merlin el mago · Mar 2, 2020

What's WSC?

BlueSkies · Mar 2, 2020

merlin el mago said:
What's WSC?

I believe he is referring to the Donic Waldner Senso Carbon blade.

merlin el mago · Mar 2, 2020

Thank you.

G_ZHANG · Mar 2, 2020

I played both shakehand N301 provincial and dynasty carbon.

The most distinctive feeling is N301 has a lot of vibration. Dynasty is a bit more woody in short games than N301.

Regarding top spin away from table, dynasty has higher ceiling than n301, but that also requires higher power and good tenichque. If you don't have enough power, you will feel the ball bounce off the blade a little bit too quick, thus not enough dwell time. But if you have enough tenique and power, the speed, spin, dwell time on dynasty is amazing.

For n301, you can play it more like a viscaria, but with a lot of vibration.

LinDanKid said:
Hi, can anyone compare the difference between a N301 provincial or national with the xu xin dynasty carbon?

LinDanKid · Mar 2, 2020

G_ZHANG said:
I played both shakehand N301 provincial and dynasty carbon.

The most distinctive feeling is N301 has a lot of vibration. Dynasty is a bit more woody in short games than N301.

Regarding top spin away from table, dynasty has higher ceiling than n301, but that also requires higher power and good tenichque. If you don't have enough power, you will feel the ball bounce off the blade a little bit too quick, thus not enough dwell time. But if you have enough tenique and power, the speed, spin, dwell time on dynasty is amazing.

For n301, you can play it more like a viscaria, but with a lot of vibration.

Thanks a lot for the comparison. Would you rate the quality of the blades similarly? Just different playing characteristics?

729B2 · Mar 2, 2020

reminds me of the N301 or the alnade inner when you play the touch game is got a woody feeling but when you hit into it hits the carbon gear and its super amazing back from the table with TG2 blue sponge
Lindankid where did u get your tg2 from?
imo ifc

igorponger · Mar 2, 2020

DHS REPREHENSIBLE PRODUCTS/
Japan's mnfcs never boost their sponges with oily by sinking into an oil bath, likewise never did the Europian's e.g. ESN Germany.
Factory boosting (that is sinking a sponge sheet 40 mm into the bath of mineral oil) is an illegal trickery only used by Chinese manufacturers.
Again, all the DHS sponge materials are known to get degraded in a month period due to the oil treatments. Japanese rubbers will stay playable for years. Japanese do not use oil treatments on sponge materials.

/Be happy/

Kuba Hajto · Mar 2, 2020

igorponger said:
DHS REPREHENSIBLE PRODUCTS/
Japan's mnfcs never boost their sponges with oily by sinking into an oil bath, likewise never did the Europian's e.g. ESN Germany.
Factory boosting (that is sinking a sponge sheet 40 mm into the bath of mineral oil) is an illegal trickery only used by Chinese manufacturers.
Again, all the DHS sponge materials are known to get degraded in a month period due to the oil treatments. Japanese rubbers will stay playable for years. Japanese do not use oil treatments on sponge materials.

/Be happy/

Source?

bobpuls · Mar 2, 2020

This is hoax Do not even care

zizka · Mar 2, 2020

Tenergy has not played for years. 1 month and rubber are changing. The sponge becomes like cotton wool.

LinDanKid · Mar 2, 2020

729B2 said:
reminds me of the N301 or the alnade inner when you play the touch game is got a woody feeling but when you hit into it hits the carbon gear and its super amazing back from the table with TG2 blue sponge
Lindankid where did u get your tg2 from?
imo ifc

I got mine from someone selling them on mytabletennis and also from prott

G_ZHANG · Mar 2, 2020

yup, I think it's more of different playing characteristics.

LinDanKid said:
Thanks a lot for the comparison. Would you rate the quality of the blades similarly? Just different playing characteristics?

sampletext · Mar 2, 2020

igorponger said:
DHS REPREHENSIBLE PRODUCTS/
Japan's mnfcs never boost their sponges with oily by sinking into an oil bath, likewise never did the Europian's e.g. ESN Germany.
Factory boosting (that is sinking a sponge sheet 40 mm into the bath of mineral oil) is an illegal trickery only used by Chinese manufacturers.
Again, all the DHS sponge materials are known to get degraded in a month period due to the oil treatments. Japanese rubbers will stay playable for years. Japanese do not use oil treatments on sponge materials.

/Be happy/

German rubbers have booster on it for sure. and DHS sponge materials don't degrade after a month just because of oil. I don't know where you make up this info

LinDanKid · Mar 17, 2020

H301 Provincial Experiment

Bought 2 H301 Provincial (letters) from 2 different sources. Can anyone here verify the authenticity of the blades? Both are 84 grams, and both are ~1390 frequency, and came in similar shrink wrap and both verified code on DHS site (for what that's worth).

Blade #1

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Blade #2

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Giangt · Mar 17, 2020

LinDanKid said:
Bought 2 H301 Provincial (letters) from 2 different sources. Can anyone here verify the authenticity of the blades? Both are 84 grams, and both are ~1390 frequency, and came in similar shrink wrap and both verified code on DHS site (for what that's worth).

Hi LinDanKid,
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LinDanKid · Mar 17, 2020

Giangt said:
Hi LinDanKid,
Pictures are not visible....

Hmmm alright let me retry this I even saw the preview and it displayed.

Blade #1

LinDanKid · Mar 17, 2020

Blade #2
Plus blade 1 on right blade 2 on left

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