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      Any chance of a ranking list for the Super League players based on this past season in English? There might be some Lindt chocolate in it for you.

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      Women's Round 18
      Wuhan 0:3 Shandong Luneng
      1) Zhang Rui 1:3 Gu Yuting (11:8, 6:11, 7:11, 6:11)
      2) Qian Tianyi 0:3 Zhu Yuling (2:11, 4:11, 7:11)
      3) Feng Yalan / Qian Tianyi 1:2 Liu Gaoyang / Li Xiaodan (7:11, 11:9, 3:7)
      4) Zhang Rui vs Zhu Yuling
      5) Feng Yalan vs Liu Gaoyang


      Qilu 3:2 Sichuan
      1) Chen Xingtong 0:3 Guo Yan (12:14, 4:11, 12:14)
      2) Wu Yang 3:0 Yuan Yuan (11:6, 11:8, 11:5)
      3) Chen Xingtong 1:2 Yuan Yuan / Yang Huijing (7:11, 11:6, 6:8)
      4) Wu Yang 3:0 Guo Yan (11:4, 11:3, 11:6)
      5) Wen Jia 2:1 Yang Huijing (11:5, 7:11, 7:5)


      Shanxi 0:3 PLA
      1) Che Xiaoxi 2:3 Liu Xi (8:11, 11:4, 7:11, 11:4, 2:7)
      2) Liu Ming 1:3 Sun Mingyang (12:10, 6:11, 5:11, 5:11)
      3) Liu Ming / Wang Shu 0:2 Mu Zi / Liu Xi (2:11, 6:11)
      4) Che Xiaoxi vs Sun Mingyang
      5) Mu Jingyu vs Hu Limei


      Longfu 0:3 Shenzhen
      1) Li Jiayi 2:3 Sun Yingsha (11:8, 8:11, 11:8, 4:11, 2:7)
      2) Feng Tianwei 2:3 Chen Meng (7:11, 12:10, 11:8, 8:11, 5:7)
      3) Feng Tianwei / Zhang Qiang 1:2 Wang Yidi / Sun Yingsha (14:12, 9:11, 4:7)
      4) Li Jiayi vs Chen Meng
      5) Liu Fei vs Wang Yidi


      Jilin 3:1 Beijing
      1) Chen Ke 2:3 Li Jiayuan (11:7, 9:11, 4:11, 11:9, 6:8)
      2) Wang Manyu 3:0 Zhao Lin (11:5, 11:8, 11:9)
      3) Chen Ke / Yuan Xuejiao 2:0 Shu Chen / Sheng Dandan (11:8, 11:8)
      4) Wang Manyu 3:0 Li Jiayuan (11:4, 11:8, 11:9)
      5) Yuan Xuejiao vs Sun Chen


      There is no Stage II (KO stage) this season. Wuhan is champion. Congrats!
      Rank Club Win Loss Points
      1 Wuhan 15 3 33
      2 Shandong Luneng 14 4 32
      3 Jilin 13 5 31
      4 Shenzhen 13 5 31
      5 Qilu 9 9 27
      6 PLA 8 10 26
      7 Shanxi 8 10 26
      8 Beijing 6 12 24
      9 Longfu 3 15 21
      10 Sichuan 1 17 19

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      Men's Round 18
      PLA 1:3 Bazhou
      1) Zhou Kai 1:3 Liang Jingkun (10:12, 6:11, 11:9, 8:11)
      2) Fan Zhendong 3:0 Yu Heyi (11:8, 11:7, 11:5)
      3) Zhou Yu / Zhou Kai 1:2 Wang Chuqin / Yu Heyi (5:11, 11:8, 2:7)
      4) Fan Zhendong 0:3 Liang Jingkun (9:11, 3:11, 9:11)
      5) Zhou Yu vs Wang Chuqin


      Sichuan 0:3 Shangdong Weiqiao
      1) Xu Ruifeng 2:3 Xue Fei (11:8, 8:11, 7:11, 11:8, 3:7)
      2) Yan Sheng 0:3 Yan An (16:18, 6:11, 7:11)
      3) Zhu Linfeng / Yan Sheng 0:2 Lin Gaoyuan / Xue Fei (6:11, 9:11)
      4) Xu Ruifeng vs Yan An
      5) Zhu Linfeng vs Lin Gaoyuan


      Anhui 3:2 Shanghai
      1) Xi Sheng 0:3 Xu Xin (10:12, 2:11, 9:11)
      2) Yu Ziyang 3:2 Zhao Zihao (11:13, 7:11, 11:9, 11:6, 7:2)
      3) Zhou Qihao / Zhu Cheng 2:1 Cui Qinglei / Zhao Zihao (11:8, 14:16, 7:4)
      4) Yu Ziyang 0:3 Xu Xin (6:11, 7:11, 15:17)
      5) Zhou Qihao 2:1 Cui Qinglei (11:4, 9:11, 7:2)


      Tianjin 3:1 Shandong Luneng
      1) Ma Long 3:0 Xu Yingbin (11:7, 11:9, 11:3)
      2) Ma Te 3:1 Fang Bo (11:6, 5:11, 12:10, 11:2)
      3) Cheng Jingqi / Fang Yinchi 1:2 Zhang Chao / Liu Jikang (11:9, 12:14, 3:7)
      4) Ma Long 3:0 Fang Bo (15:13, 11:4, 12:10)
      5) Cheng Jingqi vs Zhang Chao


      Jiangsu 3:2 Shenzhen
      1) Sun Wen 1:3 Zheng Peifeng (7:11, 7:11, 13:11, 3:11)
      2) Zhang Yudong 3:2 Hao Shuai (11:9, 12:10, 9:11, 6:11, 7:5)
      3) Kong Lingxuan / Cai Wei 1:2 Ren Hao / Xu Chenhao (11:7, 3:11, 6:8)
      4) Zhang Yudong 3:2 Zheng Peifeng (11:9, 10:12, 12:10, 7:11, 7:4)
      5) Kong Lingxuan 2:1 Xu Chenhao (11:5, 4:11, 7:3)


      There is no Stage II (KO stage) this season. Shandong Weiqiao is champion. Congrats!
      Rank Club Win Loss Points
      1 Shandong Weiqiao 14 4 32
      2 PLA 12 6 30
      3 Shandong Luneng 12 6 30
      4 Bazhou 11 7 29
      5 Tianjin 11 7 29
      6 Shenzhen 10 8 28
      7 Anhui 8 10 26
      8 Shanghai 6 12 24
      9 Jiangsu 5 13 23
      10 Sichuan 1 17 19
      Wow LJK on fire in the end od the season

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      Men's top 30
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      1 Ma Long Tianjin 24 5 309.639
      1 Fan Zhendong PLA 23 6 309.639
      3 Lin Gaoyuan Shandong Weiqiao 22 5 302
      4 Liang Jingkun Bazhou 19 8 282.521
      5 Fang Bo Shandong Luneng 19 9 271.5
      6 Xu Xin Shanghai 18 10 266.99
      7 Yan An Shandong Weiqiao 17 10 233.585
      8 Zhou Qihao Anhui 21 12 203.75
      9 Zhou Yu PLA 18 13 195.75
      10 Shang Kun Shandong Luneng 19 11 190.566
      11 Zhang Chao Shandong Luneng 17 6 174.75
      12 Ma Te Tianjin 8 5 169.828
      13 Liu Dingshuo Tianjin 10 13 158.229
      14 Zheng Peifeng Shenzhen 9 14 155.386
      15 Zhang Yudong Jiangsu 13 15 154.696
      16 Ren Hao Shenzhen 13 10 150.382
      17 Xu Chenhao Shenzhen 14 7 149.358
      18 Yu Ziyang Anhui 10 17 148.78
      19 Wang Chuqin Bazhou 15 10 138.839
      20 Cui Qinglei Shanghai 6 22 131.125
      21 Hao Shuai Shenzhen 11 6 129.255
      22 Xue Fei Shandong Weiqiao 11 7 115.599
      23 Zhou Kai PLA 14 15 113.375
      24 Zhu Linfeng Sichuan 6 17 109.582
      25 Yu Heyi Bazhou 13 12 101.939
      26 Kong Lingxuan Jiangsu 8 16 97.25
      27 Zhu Cheng Anhui 13 9 94.9132
      28 Zhao Zihao Shanghai 6 23 78.875
      29 Cheng Jingqi Tianjin 6 13 78.625
      30 Xia Yizheng Shandong Weiqiao 8 5 77

      Women's top 30
      Rank Player Club Win Loss Points
      1 Liu Shiwen Wuhan 28 2 338.819
      2 Wang Manyu Jilin 23 6 299.931
      3 Chen Meng Shenzhen 21 8 289.177
      4 Zhu Yuling Shandong Luneng 20 7 283
      5 Ding Ning Beijing 18 5 260.307
      6 Mu Zi PLA 12 9 225.208
      7 Wu Yang Qilu 13 9 207.733
      8 Li Jiayi Longfu 19 14 207
      9 Che Xiaoxi Shanxi 16 11 202.646
      10 Sun Yingsha Shenzhen 19 10 180.582
      11 Chen Xingtong Qilu 15 19 178.625
      12 Gu Yuting Shandong Luneng 10 4 176.004
      13 Yuan Xuejiao Jilin 14 13 172
      14 Feng Yalan Wuhan 14 8 171.09
      15 Chen Ke Jilin 19 17 155.5
      16 Li Xiaodan Shandong Luneng 14 3 153.71
      17 Wen Jia Qilu 10 13 149.358
      18 Wang Yidi Shenzhen 17 7 143.625
      19 Hu Limei PLA 7 5 140
      20 Sun Mingyang PLA 7 14 122.257
      21 Liu Gaoyang Shandong Luneng 16 5 121.406
      22 Feng Tianwei Longfu 9 16 120.031
      23 Li Jiayuan Beijing 4 14 111.493
      24 Liu Ming Shanxi 12 10 106.458
      25 Sheng Dandan Beijing 6 11 104.785
      26 Qian Tianyi Wuhan 10 9 93.4375
      27 Guo Yan Sichuan 8 16 91.8316
      28 Zhang Rui Wuhan 6 9 91.1111
      29 Guo Yuhan Beijing 5 8 84.4333
      30 Wang Shu Shanxi 8 6 83.1389

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      LSW secured #1 rank (a.k.a MVP) before Round 18. However, it was not clear who would be men's MVP until all matches of Round 18 were over. Interestingly, FZD and ML got the exact same ranking points. At the beginning, CTTSL website showed FZD was #1 and ML #2. There were debates on social media and Chinese TT forums that how should MVP be determined when tied. Some thought both should be #1 based on the ranking points (a system similar to old ITTF world ranking rating points); some argued ML should be #1 because he has higher winning ratio (24 out of 29) than FZD (23 out of 29); some argued that FZD should be #1 because he beat ML. Later, CTTSL website changed to FZD #1, ML #1 and changed again to ML #1, FZD #1. Table Tennis Magazine (official magazine of CTTA) said both ML and FZD are MVPs this season and will be awarded 100,000 RMB prize money each (not shared).

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      Quote Originally Posted by rainneverever View Post
      LSW secured #1 rank (a.k.a MVP) before Round 18. However, it was not clear who would be men's MVP until all matches of Round 18 were over. Interestingly, FZD and ML got the exact same ranking points. At the beginning, CTTSL website showed FZD was #1 and ML #2. There were debates on social media and Chinese TT forums that how should MVP be determined when tied. Some thought both should be #1 based on the ranking points (a system similar to old ITTF world ranking rating points); some argued ML should be #1 because he has higher winning ratio (24 out of 29) than FZD (23 out of 29); some argued that FZD should be #1 because he beat ML. Later, CTTSL website changed to FZD #1, ML #1 and changed again to ML #1, FZD #1. Table Tennis Magazine (official magazine of CTTA) said both ML and FZD are MVPs this season and will be awarded 100,000 RMB prize money each (not shared).
      Even an injured (and new dad) Ma Long can still kick everybody's ass. One word for the man - RESPECT !!!

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      Indeed. I've watched every match so far and can say with confidence that Ma Long hasn't played on more than 80% of his potential (he's looked quite mortal in several matches), meaning when he gets back in his full stride again nothing will stop him.

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      Even an injured (and new dad) Ma Long can still kick everybody's ass. One word for the man - RESPECT !!!

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      To see how Tomokazu Harimoto would fare in the Super League, watch Liang JingKun. Tomo is a little faster but JingKun is a little stronger, their tactics are very similar. Would love to see them play one day. Any one notice that JingKun is number 4 in the Super League, and number 80 in the ITTF?

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      LJK has never really succeded internationally, lacks somewhat in the mental game still.

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      Very happy for LSW. She seems to be in good shape. I'll be even happier if she wins in Budapest next year, even though it is somewhat of a long shot, unfortunately...
      It is also quite shocking to see XX as well as Sun Yingsha and Chen Xingtong with that many losses.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RidTheKid View Post
      LJK has never really succeded internationally, lacks somewhat in the mental game still.
      That has been said for Ma Long previously. And now?

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      Actually LJK and TH have already had a match in 2017 Japan Open. The result was that LJK 4-1 TH. But since TH is becoming stronger and stronger, and LJK seems very unstable in international events, it is hard to predict who will win when they rematch.
      Quote Originally Posted by WorkerBee View Post
      To see how Tomokazu Harimoto would fare in the Super League, watch Liang JingKun. Tomo is a little faster but JingKun is a little stronger, their tactics are very similar. Would love to see them play one day. Any one notice that JingKun is number 4 in the Super League, and number 80 in the ITTF?

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      Quote Originally Posted by quanghuysk View Post
      That has been said for Ma Long previously. And now?
      That's apples to oranges. Ma Long was first team on CNT when people said he struggled internationally. It was an extremely subtle statement. Who knows, maybe he would still be struggling if we were still using the celluloid ball...
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      LJK has all the right tools technically if you ask me. He only lacks the mental toughness. If he develops that aspect of his game there's no telling how far he can go. He always seem to give ML a difficult time when they meet.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RidTheKid View Post
      LJK has all the right tools technically if you ask me. He only lacks the mental toughness. If he develops that aspect of his game there's no telling how far he can go. He always seem to give ML a difficult time when they meet.
      That's right, dude. I just want to say that never say never :P
      He is still young and and able to improve his mental toughness as well as his technique.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RidTheKid View Post
      LJK has all the right tools technically if you ask me. He only lacks the mental toughness. If he develops that aspect of his game there's no telling how far he can go. He always seem to give ML a difficult time when they meet.
      He doesn't have variation and he is not as fast as Fan Zhendong so his forehand is worse. He is right now in many ways just a lower level Fan Zhendong. I think he needs to lose weight like Fan has.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      He doesn't have variation and he is not as fast as Fan Zhendong so his forehand is worse. He is right now in many ways just a lower level Fan Zhendong. I think he needs to lose weight like Fan has.
      What do you mean by fast, look at how early he takes the ball both with BH and FH. Of course he could improve his footwork, but that kind of things we can say about each player. Last year he beat all players in china and thanks to him his team went to final. So I wouldn't say he needs much improvement in technique or footwork. Mainly it is mental and maybe also strategy. Look how often he leads with great players and then somehow he cannot finish the match.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sali View Post
      What do you mean by fast, look at how early he takes the ball both with BH and FH. Of course he could improve his footwork, but that kind of things we can say about each player. Last year he beat all players in china and thanks to him his team went to final. So I wouldn't say he needs much improvement in technique or footwork. Mainly it is mental and maybe also strategy. Look how often he leads with great players and then somehow he cannot finish the match.
      Nothing you said addressed the point I made. And since I said he lacks variation, that is the same thing as your saying it is mental and strategy. Fan Zhendong can make up for his relative lack of variation with his ability to move and be extremely consistent. If you think LJK is as fast as Fan, let me know. It is hard to move faster without dropping some weight. Just a fact of sports.

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