Zhang Jike using Tenergy 05 on the forehand!

OhWell · Nov 14, 2017

RidTheKid said:
Depends on which rubbers they're referring to

Shhhhhh! There are kids in the house we bet!

ping fun · Nov 15, 2017

ajtatosmano2 said:
Yeah he gave some of his rubbers to a kid. Other CNT players give off their rubbers more often, that was the first recorded time ZJK gave off his rubbers.

yeah he gave 5 rubbers to Xiang Peng a rookie in china's national team

RidTheKid · Nov 15, 2017

But that has nothing to do with ZJK using T05 on his fh. His physical shape doesn't allow for him to fully capitalize on h3 with blue sponge.

ping fun said:
yeah he gave 5 rubbers to Xiang Peng a rookie in china's national team

JST · Nov 15, 2017

(Which is btw. funny. If he isn't then what are all these guys on this forum doing with these supposedly superhard national H3 versions on their FH? Sorry, just sarcasm attack stroke me on Wednesday morning

RidTheKid said:
But that has nothing to do with ZJK using T05 on his fh. His physical shape doesn't allow for him to fully capitalize on h3 with blue sponge.

RidTheKid · Nov 15, 2017

I fail to see the point since H3 is a tremendous rubber.

JST said:
(Which is btw. funny. If he isn't then what are all these guys on this forum doing with these supposedly superhard national H3 versions on their FH? Sorry, just sarcasm attack stroke me on Wednesday morning

ping fun · Nov 15, 2017

RidTheKid said:
But that has nothing to do with ZJK using T05 on his fh. His physical shape doesn't allow for him to fully capitalize on h3 with blue sponge.

Yeah I know . I told for more info

SFF_lib · Nov 15, 2017

JST said:
(Which is btw. funny. If he isn't then what are all these guys on this forum doing with these supposedly superhard national H3 versions on their FH? Sorry, just sarcasm attack stroke me on Wednesday morning

At professional level ZJK needs to produce a professional level FH. With age + injuries he can produce that level of power with H3 BS. Tenergy is much more powerful than H3 with medium stroke.

For amateurs, we just need to produce enough FH power to win a game. For people like me, I train to actively engage the BS of my H3. Ofc my FH loop is enough to win some games in my club.

Let's say uninjured ZJK plays H3, his FH power is 2000. If he plays Tenergy, FH power = 1900.

The injured ZJK plays H3, his FH power is 1500. If he plays tenergy, his FH power is 1800.

If I plays H3, my FH power is 300. But because I have no injuries, Tenergy more or less will compromise my FH power to 250.

Hope that explains why many amateurs stick to H3.

Passionate about TT

Garrison · Nov 15, 2017

Obviously ZJK switched to T05 because he is an EJ and the two best players in the world play it

RidTheKid · Nov 15, 2017

Incorrect, Ma Long uses H3

Garrison said:
Obviously ZJK switched to T05 because he is an EJ and the two best players in the world play it

JST · Nov 15, 2017

Thanks for explanation but my bad morning joke was specifically about so-called national version where you guys are willing to pay basically double the price of T05 (meaning tripple or more the price of standard H3/H3n) just for harder sponge of different color and feeling that "captain Ma's rubber gives you wings". I believe you can get such product from DHS without needing to get "national" version. Otherwise H3n is great product, I have it myself on my spare bat, I deeply respect ML and whole CNT for their mastering the game. It was really just a joke and it wasn't personal to you or RTK, because I didn't check your bio guys before posting. Otherwise I would anticipate that you won't laugh with me... end of off-topic jokes, back to ZJK!

SFF_lib said:
At professional level ZJK needs to produce a professional level FH. With age + injuries he can produce that level of power with H3 BS. Tenergy is much more powerful than H3 with medium stroke.

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Hope that explains why many amateurs stick to H3.

Passionate about TT

Suga D · Nov 15, 2017

JST said:
Thanks for explanation but my bad morning joke was specifically about so-called national version where you guys are willing to pay basically double the price of T05 (meaning tripple or more the price of standard H3/H3n) just for harder sponge of different color and feeling that "captain Ma's rubber gives you wings". I believe you can get such product from DHS without needing to get "national" version. Otherwise H3n is great product, I have it myself on my spare bat, I deeply respect ML and whole CNT for their mastering the game. It was really just a joke and it wasn't personal to you or RTK, because I didn't check your bio guys before posting. Otherwise I would anticipate that you won't laugh with me... end of off-topic jokes, back to ZJK!

Still not very accurate. Your reasoning might hold true for National H3N blue sponge, but not for the H3N orange sponge. National H3N OS costs 65$ whereas T05 costs about 70$

H3N provincial (which is more than enough for amateur players who don't compete on National level) is even cheaper. Orange sponge is usually around 40$ and Blue sponge is around 50$

If my math is right, then that could be a bit less compared to the 70bucks...

[Emoji6]

Baal · Nov 15, 2017

yogi_bear said:
Do you guys think that because of his injuries, he switched to T05 because it is less physically demanding compared to using a tuned H# National on the forehand?

Possibly.

Alternatively he thinks it may help him with ABS balls.

Alternatively he has been playing terribly for considerably more than a year and is desperately willing to try about anything at this point.

The one thing for sure is that it means that he is not quite ready to throw in the towel (but may be getting close to that).

bbkon · Nov 15, 2017

drunix80 said:
I think he will be back. He got TMS due to his TT. If his TT level goes down his TMS quality goes down ( girls would stop giving S**t) . So either he gets married and vanishes or improves his level amd enjoy more TMS.

what is TMS?

ajtatosmano2 · Nov 15, 2017

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RidTheKid · Nov 15, 2017

Could it be directives from Butterfly?

Baal said:
Possibly.

Alternatively he thinks it may help him with ABS balls.

Alternatively he has been playing terribly for considerably more than a year and is desperately willing to try about anything at this point.

The one thing for sure is that it means that he is not quite ready to throw in the towel (but may be getting close to that).

ajtatosmano2 · Nov 15, 2017

RidTheKid said:
Could it be directives from Butterfly?

I don't think so. Surely not a directive, but it might be a new contract. But I still don't think this is the case.

42andbackpains · Nov 15, 2017

or maybe he is using one of the new Tenergy 05N or 05C......hhhhmmmmm

Lamtq · Nov 16, 2017

ZJK use new Tenergy!?

dariushbabri · Nov 27, 2017

Do you guys think that because of his injuries, he switched to T05 because it is less physically demanding compared to using a tuned H# National on the forehand?

Lightzy · Nov 28, 2017

1) What are these new tenergy05s?

2) I think it's because of the ABS ball. I got to play with them yesterday and it makes some sense to me.

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