Air bubble in topsheet

leedeyuan2 · Nov 1, 2011

yah. pairs up perfectly well when rosewood and hurricane 3 NEO Provincial. lyk the clickand very powerful in close table attacks, looping and third ball attack with brilliant. Tenergy also pair up well with rosewood for my backhand

UpSideDownCarl · Nov 1, 2011

Bryce said:
Rosewood is expensive. Does it pair up well with hurricane 3 neo ?

It is what Wang Liqin is using. If you go here and scroll down to the photo of his forehand side you will see it:

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?1129-Chinese-Team-Bat-pictures!

That is from the thread Chinese Team Bat Pictures.

Bryce · Nov 2, 2011

Yea. Just wondering Sir carl, players like Ma Long and Zjk use hard rubbers with aryl/carb blades. So where does the dwell time come from?

UpSideDownCarl · Nov 2, 2011

Bryce said:
Yea. Just wondering Sir carl, players like Ma Long and Zjk use hard rubbers with aryl/carb blades. So where does the dwell time come from?

Those guys are so good I think they can do anything. Arylate is combined with Carbon because the Carbon gives speed but the softness of the Arylate gives dwell time before the ball gets to the Carbon. I believe the DHS rubbers that they are using though, are also softer than what is commercially available. Rather than using the provincial or the commercial versions of H3 or Skyline we would have to try the National versions and then we would have to get them "preperared" and "pretuned" the way those guys do.

But with my provincial version of H3 NEO I get lots of dwell time. The hardness of the sponge on the version I got said 37-degrees.

Bryce · Nov 2, 2011

My current damaged provincial is 39 degrees. Perhaps a little too hard for my blade.

zhong97 · Nov 3, 2011

Is your provincial h3 neo 2.15

UpSideDownCarl · Nov 3, 2011

Bryce said:
My current damaged provincial is 39 degrees. Perhaps a little too hard for my blade.

What blade are you using? I think it is hard to say, but, if you feel it is too hard, it is worth looking into alternatives when you have exhausted the use of your current rubber. Were you able to take care of the bubble? Good luck.

Bryce · Nov 3, 2011

I haven't had time to repair it yet. I use a Timo Boll w7

Shree · Nov 3, 2011

To fix a top sheet you have to peel the top sheet properly and apply glue on sponge only .
And paste it evenly and apply a load of about 15 to 20 kg pl keep some thick books over rubber sheet
Not Glue should be applied on sponge only
Keep pressed over night for drying (8 to 10 hours)

Bryce · Nov 3, 2011

I haven't said this but after i tried Sir carl's method i noticed that the bubble enlarged and the pips were visible on the surface. But 15-20kg worth of materials to put on the rubber. How do i get so many books? o.o

UpSideDownCarl · Nov 4, 2011

Bryce said:
I haven't said this but after i tried Sir carl's method i noticed that the bubble enlarged and the pips were visible on the surface. But 15-20kg worth of materials to put on the rubber. How do i get so many books? o.o

Where did you get the idea of 15-20kgs?

Just a few heavy books; or something that will keep the topsheet pressed against the sponge. As long as there is glue in there and it has dried, all you should need is something to keep the pips up against the sponge for a while.

That blade might be too hard for H3 Neo.

Bryce · Nov 4, 2011

Yea that was my very first custom blade which i dont know much about. That's why im thinking of getting a more suitable one. Btw, more flexible and soft blades are better for h3 neo right?

azlan · Nov 4, 2011

http://www.prott.cc/shop/Detailed.aspx?d=wangliqinH2

Nothing to do with your thread Bryce, but the link above is worth looking at..

UpSideDownCarl · Nov 4, 2011

azlan said:
http://www.prott.cc/shop/Detailed.aspx?d=wangliqinH2

Nothing to do with your thread Bryce, but the link above is worth looking at..

In the thread, Chinese Team - Bat Pictures: http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?1129-Chinese-Team-Bat-pictures!

The setup Wang Liqin was using had Hurricane 3 on it.

But someone last night told me that the H3 with that Blue sponge is amazing.

Der_Echte · Nov 5, 2011

2 things could happen.

1: Pips got broken (from hitting very hard !!!) and the bubble is there to stay.
Soultion, rip off rubber and keep for those times where you need a used rubber to remove built up water based glue from a sponge or to remove sponge from pre-made blade.

2: Pips got separated from sponge. This is caused from a bad batch or gluing at factory. This is a bummer. You can try to remove teh topsheet and reglue it, but it will never be a 100% smooth job and it will play different. (Hey, try it out, it might play better !!!)
Solution: Try to reglue, but be ready to go to soultion #1.

Fatima · Feb 11, 2023

Helpppp, im a newbie and i just bought an butterfly racket, and after only 2 weeks of usage, a huge air bubble suddenly appear. Can i fix it by myself or do i need an professional to do it for me.

igorponger · Feb 11, 2023

View attachment 755

Unrepairable anyway. Sorry.

Tony's Table Tennis · Feb 11, 2023

Didn't read through the previous pages.
The bond between the top sheet and sponge is either gone, or the pips has broken.

Unrepairable

UpSideDownCarl · Feb 11, 2023

Tony's Table Tennis said:
Didn't read through the previous pages.
The bond between the top sheet and sponge is either gone, or the pips has broken.

Unrepairable

This is an old old thread. Before Fatima's post from today, the next most recent post was from 2011.

Der_Echte · Feb 11, 2023

Seemed like carl was gone for a week... maybe he spent some time comforting the inept Goon Squad in their latest one week stay in the infamous basement septic tank by means of a certain remote trigger pull on the trap door baited by a pile of fake national H3 with an attractive lady in a miniskirt bending down to examine it as the Goonies fall for it.

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