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I think we discussed somewhere in this thread and wonder if Japan became #2 and China #3, what would happen. As Germany #1 and China #2 now, it is not much different from China #1 and Germany #2 for the drawing.
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...itrij-Ovtcharov-The-New-World-Number-1!/page5

And I also posted the pdfs of new world ranking policy. Since there was a further change in late Dec 2017, I will post the links again.
Version 1.0 (2016/12/20) WTTC and WTTTC are valid for 2 years (to be precise, till next edition), 1st year 100% and 2nd year 50%. OG and OG team points are valid for 4 year, first year 100% and later 75%, 50% and 25%.
https://tabletennis523.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/ittf_world_ranking_description_2018.pdf
Version 1.1 (2017/10/20) WTTC and WTTTC are 100% for 2 years. OG and OG team points are valid for only 1 year. The points chart gets adjusted (winner/loser ratio remaining the same).
https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2016/07/ITTF-World-Ranking-description-2018-final.pdf
Verson 1.3 (2017/12/18) Team ranking policy is added. Participation points are added.
https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2016/07/World-Ranking-description-2018-final2.pdf

Jan 2018 ranking does not count results in Dec 2016. So Mar 2018 ranking should not count results in Feb 2017. For this regards, Dima will have 7 results totaling 13665 in Mar 2017 (6 singles results + 1 European team champion 720 points). FZD will have 8 results instead (his Feb 2017 Qatar Open points will expire but he will get some points in Jan 2018 Hungarian Open). Without playing Hungrian Open, FZD will have 13845 in Mar 2018 so even he lost in the first round he will have 14295 and surpass Dima. In Mar 2018, Timo will have 14805 points, also higher than Dima. So it is not wise at all for Dima not playing Hungarian Open, lol.
Pretty wise if you ask me. It will make everyone happy that Fan Zhendong is now #1 so they can leave him alone.
 
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My bad, I forgot Team World Cup in Feb 2018! And Dima will get 300 per singles match! So he will still have 8 results in March. If he can win 7 singles matches (will he play this much?) he will be #1 in Mar 2018 no matter FZD's result in Hungarian Open.

Jan 2018 ranking does not count results in Dec 2016. So Mar 2018 ranking should not count results in Feb 2017. For this regards, Dima will have 7 results totaling 13665 in Mar 2017 (6 singles results + 1 European team champion 720 points). FZD will have 8 results instead (his Feb 2017 Qatar Open points will expire but he will get some points in Jan 2018 Hungarian Open). Without playing Hungrian Open, FZD will have 13845 in Mar 2018 so even he lost in the first round he will have 14295 and surpass Dima. In Mar 2018, Timo will have 14805 points, also higher than Dima. So it is not wise at all for Dima not playing Hungarian Open, lol.
 
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You think archery is anything big? Well then...

It is not really what we think. We obviously all think TT is important; that is why we are on a TT forum in the first place. But the IOC may not. And the fact of the matter is, the IOC did the same thing to gymnastics. They did it. ITTF had no say. Accept IOC's change of rules or stop being an Olympic sport. Don't you think the people who are gymnastics fans felt the same?
 
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You think archery is anything big? Well then...


In terms of Olympic support, Archery was an Olympic event in the early 20th century, got removed and then re-established itself in 1972 to now. TT joined for the first time in 1988. In the 2008 Olympic games, China won All the singles medals (Male and Female Gold, Silver and Bronze) and all the team gold medals (Gold Gold) leaving Silver for Germany and Singapore and Bronze for South Korea.

When does that happen in archery? South Korea wins almost all the golds in archery, but they do not win all the medals, which I suspect is a result of the kind of restriction you are complaining about in table tennis. But again, the IOC understands that if a country does not believe it has medal chances, it will stop funding the sport at various levels. That is part of what drives this.
 
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The IOC voted to eliminate wrestling (an Olympic sport since 708 BC) from the 2020 games. Luckily they reversed that decision, but suffice it to say that they're under tremendous pressure to limit the number of events and athletes because of costs.
 
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The IOC voted to eliminate wrestling (an Olympic sport since 708 BC) from the 2020 games. Luckily they reversed that decision, but suffice it to say that they're under tremendous pressure to limit the number of events and athletes because of costs.

I think that was a well-calculated political choice though - I think they knew that no one would vote out wrestling completely so they chose it to be lined up with other non-core sports. Other choices may have run a higher risk.
 
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Comparing finalists from sports like Archery and Athletics/Track & Field with Table Tennis is a strange way to look at it, considering there can only be two nations involved in a TT final but many more in those other sports.
 
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ITTF has a good relationship with IOC. The head offices for each organisation are located next to one another in Switzerland. Table Tennis has been granted the additional Mixed Doubles event for 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo, a major boost for the sport and evidence of the strong position we are in regarding Olympic standing.
 
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Comparing finalists from sports like Archery and Athletics/Track & Field with Table Tennis is a strange way to look at it, considering there can only be two nations involved in a TT final but many more in those other sports.

Possibly, but gymnastics can have many events finalists as well. They have restricted it to two per event, most prominently in the allround, for this medal reason. I like to compare it to salary caps and revenue sharing in the major American sports leagues - you may wish everyone could just do whatever they wanted, but if only the rich teams could get the best players without any repercussions, then why watch a league where there is never any real competition and your team has no chance of winning? Of course, some fans are diehards, but the casual fan in part drives the profitability of the sport.
 
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Isn't badminton the proper sport that TT should be compared to in OG?
Badminton singles and doubles entered OG in 1992 and mixed doubles in 1996. The upper limit is 3 per association in individual events. China is not as dominant in badminton as in TT but China did get all medals of women's doubles in 2000. IOC and BWF are totally fine with it.
 
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A saying of the lakota sioux american natives:
When you discover you're riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to get off

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In Amercian English, it can also be know as "Beating a Dead Horse" meaning to continue something, even if continuing will have no effect - a fruitless waste.

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The IOC voted to eliminate wrestling (an Olympic sport since 708 BC) from the 2020 games. Luckily they reversed that decision, but suffice it to say that they're under tremendous pressure to limit the number of events and athletes because of costs.

While at the same time they add other dumb new sports.
 
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