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Anyone see the latest developments in the Catholic cover-up operation...
Let's look at the meaning of "Calumny" ...
Wow, using another same old page from the playbook to minimize and shame accusers...
Here is a leader that has nearly blind following of countless millions using such words to address the situation and flat-out saying the accusers are doing it to damage the accused.
NO, the guy (EDIT) would never (EDIT) say something like "Well, decades and centuries long sexual abuse is a horrific crime that has been perpetrated by trusted leaders in our organization and fully supported by more senior leaders... and it has to stop... and we are responsible for ensuring it doesn't stop. These latest accusations against Juan Berros are very serious and we will take immediate action to protect the public by removing him from his position, ask the police to fully investigate and fully support prosecution if it leads to that, conduct our own investigation and take administrative action as proper based on the results. We fully support victims reporting abuse and encourage them to promptly report abuse to the police and anonymously to us."
NO, the top leader of the Catholic organization will never say something like that, although a less senior leader did say "...fully recognizes the egregious failures of the church and its clergy who abused children and the devastating impact those crimes have had on survivors and their loved ones." Stuff like that leads to successful lawsuits... but the balance statement of their organization has income and assets (and huge continued income) to easily handle the financial outcomes of such lawsuits.
This is still happening in the modern world and people are still putting up with it.
Until children and adults learn and recognize the methods used to setup and perform the abuse, know many of the behavioral warning signs, know how to prompty report and preserve physical evidence, know who all to tell, have support to me physically and mentally strong, and collectively have a will to hold abusers accountable... until then - until these first important steps are done, it is gunna be tough.
When an abuser knows someone is gunna be watching them (after the first one tells - or after one sees warning signs and reports) (assuming no physical evidence that could lead to a much higher chance of conviction in court) they are less likely to abuse. That is in our modern day, the most effective starting point.
One could make an argument about an much older way to address abusers. The court was the court of public opinion. If public opinion was won and swung against an abuser... good night, it was over. Promptly, a crowd would snatch up the accuser and hang 'em high. Right or wrong, the abuser would abuse no more. No one in that day would tolerate an abuser in their society. This method made well sure that people would act in a way (namely not abusing) to avoid such an outcome. Argue all one will, there are good and bad points about that approach, much like there are good and bad points about modern law and courts.
There is a whole lot of other important things that need to be in place, like the responders, support systems, laws, investigations, prosecution, infrastructure to facilitate reporting and investigation, social and peer factors,
Let's look at the meaning of "Calumny" ...
Wow, using another same old page from the playbook to minimize and shame accusers...
Here is a leader that has nearly blind following of countless millions using such words to address the situation and flat-out saying the accusers are doing it to damage the accused.
NO, the guy (EDIT) would never (EDIT) say something like "Well, decades and centuries long sexual abuse is a horrific crime that has been perpetrated by trusted leaders in our organization and fully supported by more senior leaders... and it has to stop... and we are responsible for ensuring it doesn't stop. These latest accusations against Juan Berros are very serious and we will take immediate action to protect the public by removing him from his position, ask the police to fully investigate and fully support prosecution if it leads to that, conduct our own investigation and take administrative action as proper based on the results. We fully support victims reporting abuse and encourage them to promptly report abuse to the police and anonymously to us."
NO, the top leader of the Catholic organization will never say something like that, although a less senior leader did say "...fully recognizes the egregious failures of the church and its clergy who abused children and the devastating impact those crimes have had on survivors and their loved ones." Stuff like that leads to successful lawsuits... but the balance statement of their organization has income and assets (and huge continued income) to easily handle the financial outcomes of such lawsuits.
This is still happening in the modern world and people are still putting up with it.
Until children and adults learn and recognize the methods used to setup and perform the abuse, know many of the behavioral warning signs, know how to prompty report and preserve physical evidence, know who all to tell, have support to me physically and mentally strong, and collectively have a will to hold abusers accountable... until then - until these first important steps are done, it is gunna be tough.
When an abuser knows someone is gunna be watching them (after the first one tells - or after one sees warning signs and reports) (assuming no physical evidence that could lead to a much higher chance of conviction in court) they are less likely to abuse. That is in our modern day, the most effective starting point.
One could make an argument about an much older way to address abusers. The court was the court of public opinion. If public opinion was won and swung against an abuser... good night, it was over. Promptly, a crowd would snatch up the accuser and hang 'em high. Right or wrong, the abuser would abuse no more. No one in that day would tolerate an abuser in their society. This method made well sure that people would act in a way (namely not abusing) to avoid such an outcome. Argue all one will, there are good and bad points about that approach, much like there are good and bad points about modern law and courts.
There is a whole lot of other important things that need to be in place, like the responders, support systems, laws, investigations, prosecution, infrastructure to facilitate reporting and investigation, social and peer factors,
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