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      If you want a smaller handle get the master flared version of stiga all around.classic

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      If you can find the musa 3 at 2.0mm then it is a better rubber than mark v. Also the price is almost the same. I could have suggested vega intro but it is not easy to find a dealer for it.

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      yep
      any allround to allround + wood blade would work

      Musa3, Vega intro
      Carl's bat
      Mark V / Sriver

      lots of options - all of them would better than the premade and these would allow your kid to learn more about spin with having control and not worrying of the setup being too fast
      I would say such setup is fine for the next few years and when he is older then move over to offensive wood blade, and take it from there
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      Tony, have you tried the intro? The intro seems to be a good replacement for europe and elite vegas when they stop producing the vega rubbers. Te musa 3 can replace the vega pro and japan.

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      Thanks again for all the answers. My son plays with Stiga evolution ( I got it on a sale BOGO and I thought it was entry level). Not sue if this info. changes anything. Anyway, moving forward most recs are very similar sounding to me. I think I am leaning towards Sweden Extra with Vega intro for my son, and maybe a little bit faster set up for myself from Colestt. I like Carls idea of getting 2 sets from Tabletennis11. I am sure these recommendations take into account the new ball. We practice with the old ball because the new balls are expensive and cheaper ones not good quality, I am sure it will get better.

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      tdad.

      I wouldn't over think this. Your son is 8. He'll probably want something different in a few years anyways.

      Just get him a solid setup to start playing. A Stiga classic would be fine.

      I'm huge into Gambler's Fire Pro Dragon series. Affordable and I really like my Fire Dragon Touch. Even more so than my Stiga Clipper... At least for inverted play. The clipper is better for short pip play.

      I don't know if I'd go Chinese Hard sponge. With hard sponge, you have to swing hard to get the most out of that sponge. Does your son have the strength for that? I'd probably go Chinese tacky on the FH on a medium sponge. Something a little more forgiving. Like a Gambler Wrath or Geospin tacky sort of thing. I mean does your 8 year old really need a lot of power? Does he need something tuned? No. For his age & level. Wins & losses will be based on consistency. Not who hits harder because both players are already so consistent. IMO that's basically USATT 2000 and up.

      On the backhand i'd probably just get some grippy rubber again on a medium sponged and slightly more controlled.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ttdad View Post
      Thanks again for all the answers. My son plays with Stiga evolution ( I got it on a sale BOGO and I thought it was entry level). Not sue if this info. changes anything. Anyway, moving forward most recs are very similar sounding to me. I think I am leaning towards Sweden Extra with Vega intro for my son, and maybe a little bit faster set up for myself from Colestt. I like Carls idea of getting 2 sets from Tabletennis11. I am sure these recommendations take into account the new ball. We practice with the old ball because the new balls are expensive and cheaper ones not good quality, I am sure it will get better.
      The Sweden Extra w/ Vega Intro 2.0mm on both sides is a great setup. I would buy 2 of those from TT11 and call it a day!

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      Quote Originally Posted by suds79 View Post
      tdad.

      I wouldn't over think this. Your son is 8. He'll probably want something different in a few years anyways.

      Just get him a solid setup to start playing. A Stiga classic would be fine.

      I'm huge into Gambler's Fire Pro Dragon series. Affordable and I really like my Fire Dragon Touch. Even more so than my Stiga Clipper... At least for inverted play. The clipper is better for short pip play.

      I don't know if I'd go Chinese Hard sponge. With hard sponge, you have to swing hard to get the most out of that sponge. Does your son have the strength for that? I'd probably go Chinese tacky on the FH on a medium sponge. Something a little more forgiving. Like a Gambler Wrath or Geospin tacky sort of thing. I mean does your 8 year old really need a lot of power? Does he need something tuned? No. For his age & level. Wins & losses will be based on consistency. Not who hits harder because both players are already so consistent. IMO that's basically USATT 2000 and up.

      On the backhand i'd probably just get some grippy rubber again on a medium sponged and slightly more controlled.

      Thanks for the replies.
      Sweden Extra/Vega Intro = $90
      Gambler set up is approx $70
      Colestt option approx $40-50

      Now if we take the cost factor away, how would these options compare in quality/durability, control, long term development etc. Who knows in the end I might end up getting three different options one each for the kids and myself.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ttdad View Post
      Thanks for the replies.
      Sweden Extra/Vega Intro = $90
      Gambler set up is approx $70
      Colestt option approx $40-50

      Now if we take the cost factor away, how would these options compare in quality/durability, control, long term development etc. Who knows in the end I might end up getting three different options one each for the kids and myself.
      The Sweden Extra/Vega Intro is the best by far. Did you take into account TT11's additional discounts (5% off 50 euros, 10% off 100 euros... up to 25% off 250 euros) by putting all the items in your cart? This will be even more advantageous if you buy 2-3 blades and 4-6 rubbers.

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      I know the discount is there and it totally makes sense. I may buy them at different times, it just seems like a lot of money all at one time for me at this time anyways, maybe later on it wont, and probably not for others.

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      My son got his birthday present! Xiom Vega Intro on Yasaka Sweden extra and he absolutely loves it!! I would like to thank everyone who helped me in this selection process. I appreciate your help. Ofcourse I regularly follow the forum now and hope he continues to get better with the help of TTD.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ttdad View Post
      My son got his birthday present! Xiom Vega Intro on Yasaka Sweden extra and he absolutely loves it!! I would like to thank everyone who helped me in this selection process. I appreciate your help. Ofcourse I regularly follow the forum now and hope he continues to get better with the help of TTD.
      Glad to hear it! You picked a great setup that is perfect for a developing player of any age and one that will last him a long time! Keep us updated on his progress. Have fun playing with your kids and see you on the forum!

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