problems with control

You could switch to the Calibra LT sound which is a bit softer with more control. Your blade is rated Off+, so a bit contra productive for the playstyle you describe. You don't have to go down to an ALL+ blade, Off or Off- would help. But as you said that you feel very good about your backhand, I would take a slower/softer forehand rubber before switching blades

Also, as an experiment, you could try switching sides on your paddle and use vega Europe on the forehand. Use that as a reference point to help find the ideal rubber that you're looking for.

You could jump off the Brooklyn Bridge out of joy, then after you towel off, you could meet UpsideDownCarl and check out some of his All round Offensive setups that have great control.

You could also follow Garrisons advice... regular LT on fh is tough to consistently control slow openers... I used to have that on FH and moved on to Aurus and other rubbers.

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I’m with countrybread. Flip your racket and try the Vega euro on your forehand, and report how that goes here, perhaps?

Persson power carbon is really fast. Settle with an allnwood blade like Stiga Arctic wood or Xiom Feel Ax. Both are slower and have better control.

If you have the opportunity, try to get a xushaofa lsz japanese sponge, a lot of control, spinny and last long! It fits very well with off, off+ blades

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Mattys Vanackere said:

Hey

Thanks for your answers.
In the start of the season i tried to play with the xiom on my FH and for me it sucks more than the stiga calibra lt.
I also played with the sriver g3 fx on my forehand but it was the same result: it just sucks.
Are all of those rubbers just to fast?
Last year with donic acuda blue p3 the control was amazing, and had an amazing speed, and the spin was good.
And it was with the same blade as i use this year.
O, and i tried to play with a friends equipment with tenergy 05 fx and tenergy 64, and i liked it but it is just too fast for me.

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But you said you don’t like P3 for looping, right?

Tbh going on a hunt for a rubber that might or might not fix an issue you have with your blade risks being way more expensive than just getting a new setup that does what you want. There are many looping blades that come highly recommended on here at under 40 euros...

I've recently switched back to 5-ply all-wood OFF- in order to get more control and feel and it's the best decision I've made setup wise. Opening loops, loops, short game openings... are much easier to produce and spinier, and the feel is amazing. So I'd recommend you do the same, something like a Butterfly Korbel, Primorac or the likes. If you like Donic rubbers, I'd do Barracudas on both sides. If you use the correct strokes and put some legs and hips into it, you won't lose any speed but you'll produce a lot more spin and land your shots more consistently.

dominus7 said:

If you have the opportunity, try to get a xushaofa lsz japanese sponge, a lot of control, spinny and last long! It fits very well with off, off+ blades

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Is that the Xushaofa LSZ 999 I or II? Have you tried both?

thomas.pong said:

Is that the Xushaofa LSZ 999 I or II? Have you tried both?

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There are chinese rubber and japanese sponge, the sponge is white for japanese sponge

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Der_Echte said:

You could jump off the Brooklyn Bridge out of joy, then after you towel off, you could meet UpsideDownCarl and check out some of his All round Offensive setups that have great control.

You could also follow Garrisons advice... regular LT on fh is tough to consistently control slow openers... I used to have that on FH and moved on to Aurus and other rubbers.

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For the record - I think that's not a picture of Brooklyn Bridge, so don't get any ideas...

As far as OP's question - let's face it, we have no idea what the problem even is. OP, what stops you from asking your club mates (you play in a club, right?) or a coach - anyone who's actually seen you play.

I'd suggest you (the OP) grab a slow racket from one of your training partners and try to do that slow and spinny fh loop. If you still can't do that it is more likely to be a technique problem than a matter of material. If you had some kind of super ZLC with super fast rubbers on it I'd understand the material problem but your setup, although it is not designed for slow and spinny loops in the first place, looks decent and it should not be a too big problem to perform that stroke with decent control with your setup (and with the right technique).

Xylit said:

I'd suggest you (the OP) grab a slow racket from one of your training partners and try to do that slow and spinny fh loop. If you still can't do that it is more likely to be a technique problem than a matter of material. If you had some kind of super ZLC with super fast rubbers on it I'd understand the material problem but your setup, although it is not designed for slow and spinny loops in the first place, looks decent and it should not be a too big problem to perform that stroke with decent control with your setup (and with the right technique).

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Afaik this blade is based on a clipper variant (person powerspeed), with 2 added carbon layers. Could you say more about why you think the blade is unlikely to be too fast for the op to loop well with it?

pgpg said:

For the record - I think that's not a picture of Brooklyn Bridge, so don't get any ideas...

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True... but there is graffiti on the bridge and don't they look like they are really enjoying themselves? The jump off Brooklyn Bridge is a metaphor anyway... to get rid of one attitude and replace it with another.

He could still go over there and meetup with Carl and try for himself several control oriented setups.

I am not so quick to dismiss a blade based on what its top end speed is. There are several Nexy blades I can use with a faster top end and still control very well my touch shots and openers to pretty much the same standard overall as my favored main setups of KJH and Lissom.

The factor I would use to dismiss a blade would be quickness of rebound. If it is too quick rebounding, then I do not use it. IMO, Nexy has exactly two of these, that is it. I cannot play my normal standard playing my normal style using these two, but the rest of them I have used no problem, and several are at least the degree of top end as the OP's blade.

Still, I have learned that it is effective to select equipment middle of the road of the play style and characteristics required. No ONE blade will be optimal for all shot situations, so middle territory of the objectives is about as good as one will get with a lot of wiggle room.

Every company makes several of each "zone" in their lineup, endless amount of possible combos... that is one difficult thing for newer and even experienced pongers.

.... a video of the OP is required to give any advice ...

Mattys Vanackere said:

well i tried a off+ blade with 05 fx on fh and 64 on bh and it was a lot better, but it is way to fast for me.
My backhand is amazing, control and spin and not so fast. my forehand is no spin, no control, lots of speed.
So i think i need another kind of blade or fh rubber?

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I Think you should send a footage about your FH and BH stroke then will be easier give you a certain advice

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