Fan Zhendong using all wood blade at the World Team Cup

lVegita · Jan 21, 2019

StehTischtennis said:
I hope this is not too much off-topic.

How come all the younger Chinese players are still using the older Viscaria handle and not the current one.

Hasn't it been a few years since the new Viscaria handle has been introduced? Does anybody know?

Do the CNT have a large storage of older Viscarias? Or are they really still using the same blade for quite some time?

They are probably using new Viscarias with the old handle. Just to practice changing handles for when they get an endorsement.

StehTischtennis · Jan 21, 2019

romanzdk said:
WCQ has the older Viscaria, yes. However LGY is using a new one, isn’t he?

I've never seen a pro Chinese player using the new design handle, that's what I find interesting.

And LGY is using a custom handle without the plastic lens like LSW:

lVegita said:
They are probably using new Viscarias with the old handle. Just to practice changing handles for when they get an endorsement.

Hmm, why would they go though all that trouble of replacing the handle? What's the benefit here compared to the risk of damaging or dampening the feel by using too little or too much glue?

romanzdk · Jan 21, 2019

Wow, I was (until now) pretty sure I saw LGY’s new Viscaria handle.. Interesting

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lVegita · Jan 21, 2019

StehTischtennis said:
Hmm, why would they go though all that trouble of replacing the handle? What's the benefit here compared to the risk of damaging or dampening the feel by using too little or too much glue?

It was actually a failed joke attempt

AndySmith · Jan 21, 2019

lVegita said:
It was actually a failed joke attempt

I thought it was super funny, if that helps.

About LGY - Butterfly have him down as using a "custom order" ALC, so not specifically a Viscaria...

https://www.butterfly.co.jp/players/detail/lin-gaoyuan.html

zeio · Jan 21, 2019

That's how Butterfly has always described the Viscaria since they aren't available in Japan anymore. They use "特注(tokuchuu)" for ZJK's Viscaria as well.

AndySmith · Jan 21, 2019

zeio said:
That's how Butterfly has always described the Viscaria since they aren't available in Japan anymore. They use "特注(tokuchuu)" for ZJK's Viscaria as well.

Ah, good point.

So, what's the story about the missing lens from LGY's handle then?

Zaid323918 · Jan 21, 2019

lVegita said:
Just gonna leave it here, From the FAN Zhendong vs WANG Chuqin game today:
https://tv.ittf.com/video/fan-zhendong-wang-chuqin/1438701

Right racket, black rubber facing up:

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WCQ's Viscaria for comparison:

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Great find

zeio · Jan 21, 2019

AndySmith said:
Ah, good point.

So, what's the story about the missing lens from LGY's handle then?

That's likely the custom build of Viscaria. Back when anyone could make a custom order on the Butterfly Japan site, all the custom blades came with no lens on the handle and no print on the blade head.

RidTheKid · Jan 21, 2019

Shibaev also uses Viscaria without any logos, custom handle.

iamsan · Jan 21, 2019

Hey thanks to your reply.
While tacky rubber is linked to full swing I guess the quintessence about limba and Chinese technique isn't as clear as i always thought.

5hark · Jan 22, 2019

RidTheKid said:
Shibaev also uses Viscaria without any logos, custom handle.

With red colored layers? ^^

Jimbob MacInbred · Jan 22, 2019

5hark said:
With red colored layers? ^^

When did you see him play with a blade that has red dyed plies?

hipnotic · Jan 22, 2019

Jimbob MacInbred said:
When did you see him play with a blade that has red dyed plies?

There is a photo of his blade over at Mytt, Clipper like blade with korbel handle, but it's from 2016.

5hark · Jan 22, 2019

Jimbob MacInbred said:
When did you see him play with a blade that has red dyed plies?

In 2016 or so.

Looked like a clipper w/ korbel handles.

Jimbob MacInbred · Jan 22, 2019

hipnotic said:
There is a photo of his blade over at Mytt, Clipper like blade with korbel handle, but it's from 2016.

5hark said:
In 2016 or so.
Looked like a clipper w/ korbel handles.

Hmm, OK. But that would have been 2 - 3 years ago. In the recent Hungarian Open he definitely used a Viscaria with Tenergys. Minute 2.03 is quite accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbvMJw7Mfzg

hipnotic · Jan 22, 2019

Jimbob MacInbred said:
Hmm, OK. But that would have been 2 - 3 years ago. In the recent Hungarian Open he definitely used a Viscaria with Tenergys. Minute 2.03 is quite accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbvMJw7Mfzg

I guess that's why he's playing better.

Jimbob MacInbred · Jan 22, 2019

hipnotic said:
I guess that's why he's playing better.

Maybe. But for him I think it is more important that he can play on a high level again, no matter what blade he uses. He was injured for quite some time and struggled a bit to get into decent shape (didn't he have surgery on his back or hip?). But he moved pretty well against FZD.

hipnotic · Jan 22, 2019

I don't follow his career with much attention, but i really liked his game against Dyjas.

Jimbob MacInbred · Jan 22, 2019

hipnotic said:
I don't follow his career with much attention, but i really liked his game against Dyjas.

He is also not one of my favorite players. I just don't like his attitude/ behaviour (and Simon Gauzy probably dislikes it even more

). But speaking of Dyjas and red colored plies: Jakub plays his Donic signature blade which happens to be a Clipper clone including the two red dyed plies...strange coincidence considering the conversation we were having.

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