German Open 2018

Konrad Bak · Mar 25, 2018

you know why? Viscaria > Primorac.

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Mar 25, 2018

No miracle Suh Hyowon played very well but by the 3rd set Ishikawa had her all figured out and Suh’s tricks didn’t work anymore.

A very entertaining match and Ishikawa was the clear winner

JesperStef · Mar 25, 2018

Results from Day 5 and 6 (24-25 March 2018):

Men's Singles

Round of 16:

Patrick Franziska 4:2 Marcos Freitas [9] (11:9, 9:11, 7:11, 15:13, 13:11, 11:5)
[16] Kristian Karlsson 4:1 Ruwen Filus (14:12, 11:5, 15:13, 8:11, 11:7)

[7] Simon Gauzy 4:3 Ho Kwan Kit (11:7, 8:11, 8:11, 11:9, 11:9, 6:11, 11:5)
Jeoung Youngsik 0:4 Xu Xin [3] (5:11, 5:11, 8:11, 2:11)

[4] Koki Niwa 1:4 Mattias Karlsson (8:11, 11:8, 3:11, 8:11, 9:11)
[12] Lee Sangsu 1:4 Wong Chun Ting [6] (7:11, 12:10, 4:11, 1:11, 8:11)

[5] Ma Long 4:0 Jun Mizutani [11] (11:6, 11:7, 11:9, 11:9)
[10] Chuang Chih-Yuan 3:4 Timo Boll [2] (3:11, 11:9, 13:11, 6:11, 11:9, 11:13, 7:11)

Quarter-finals:

Patrick Franziska 4:1 Kristian Karlsson [16] (11:9, 11:4, 8:11, 11:9, 11:7)
[7] Simon Gauzy 2:4 Xu Xin [3] (12:10, 11:9, 5:11, 10:12, 3:11, 7:11)

Mattias Karlsson 1:4 Wong Chun Ting [6] (10:12, 11:13, 8:11, 11:5, 9:11)
[5] Ma Long 4:1 Timo Boll [2] (11:6, 11:7, 8:11, 11:9, 17:15)

Semi-finals:

Patrick Franziska 2:4 Xu Xin [3] (11:9, 6:11, 8:11, 11:8, 5:11, 7:11)
[6] Wong Chun Ting 2:4 Ma Long [5] (4:11, 11:13, 2:11, 11:9, 11:4, 9:11)

Final:

[3] Xu Xin 1:4 Ma Long [5] (9:11, 11:9, 9:11, 9:11, 6:11)

Women's Singles

Quarter-finals:

[1] Feng Tianwei 4:0 Jeon Jihee (12:10, 11:9, 11:3, 11:4)
Yang Haeun 3:4 Suh Hyowon [14] (6:11, 10:12, 11:3, 10:12, 11:4, 11:4, 7:11)

Sun Yingsha 2:4 Cheng I-Ching [5] (11:3, 10:12, 8:11, 11:8, 9:11, 8:11)
Wu Yang 2:4 Kasumi Ishikawa [2] (12:14, 11:7, 4:11, 8:11, 11:5, 7:11)

Semi-finals:

[1] Feng Tianwei 2:4 Suh Hyowon [14] (11:3, 4:11, 6:11, 8:11, 11:8, 5:11)
[5] Cheng I-Ching 3:4 Kasumi Ishikawa [2] (5:11, 11:9, 6:11, 12:10, 11:9, 8:11, 6:11)

Final:

[14] Suh Hyowon 1:4 Kasumi Ishikawa [2] (9:11, 12:10, 6:11, 7:11, 6:11)

Men's Doubles

Semi-finals:

[7] Jeoung Youngsik/Lee Sangsu 3:1 Tomokazu Harimoto/Masataka Morizono [3] (5:11, 12:10, 11:9, 11:9)
Chen Chien-An/Chuang Chih-Yuan 0:3 Ma Long/Xu Xin [5] (6:11, 4:11, 3:11)

Final:

[7] Jeoung Youngsik/Lee Sangsu 0:3 Ma Long/Xu Xin [5] (7:11, 8:11, 9:11)

Women's Doubles

Semi-finals:

[1] Hina Hayata/Mima Ito 3:1 Ng Wing Nam/Minnie Soo Wai Yam [5] (10:12, 11:4, 11:5, 11:6)
[3] Jeon Jihee/Yang Haeun 3:2 Doo Hoi Kem/Lee Ho Ching [2] (11:4, 11:7, 5:11, 8:11, 11:6)

Final:

[1] Hina Hayata/Mima Ito 3:1 Jeon Jihee/Yang Haeun [3] (11:3, 11:5, 10:12, 11:6)

WorkerBee · Mar 25, 2018

Konrad Bak said:
I think Ma Long after 25 years in table tennis has worse condition and his mind is out of the table

...

Don't forget Ma Long just became the record-setting fifth-time winner of the German Open and the winner of the Chinese Super League. Hopefully, his mind problems will sort themselves out so he can be totally happy with his new victories.

TTFrenzy · Mar 25, 2018

WorkerBee said:
Don't forget Ma Long just became the record-setting fifth-time winner of the German Open and the winner of the Chinese Super League. Hopefully, his mind problems will sort themselves out so he can be totally happy with his new victories.

I wouldnt describe it as "problems", there are more important things than TT and Im sure ma long figured it out eventually. He realized you cant win everytime or be at top form. Yes his career is important but he is also a family man now. It will be an unprecedented achievement if he manages to clinch 2019 wttc or tokyo olympics with all these youngsters after him. It's not impossible since only FZD seems a threat at the moment, but age , injuries and mental fatigue have a toll on every player regardless how good he is

matzreenzi · Mar 25, 2018

TableTennisDaily said:
Ma Long the champ!

What else is new?

zeio · Mar 25, 2018

matzreenzi said:
What else is new?

In a new but gut-wrenching jersey?

matzreenzi · Mar 25, 2018

zeio said:
In a new but gut-wrenching jersey?

[h=3]Gotta Catch 'Em All[/h]

WorkerBee · Mar 25, 2018

zeio said:
In a new but gut-wrenching jersey?

That might not be a shirt on Ma Long, it might be us seeing his golden dragon wings folded on his shoulders and his dragon scales all over. (and his scowl is hunger for a lamb or a calf or at least a roast duck)

TTFrenzy · Mar 25, 2018

zeio said:
LGL has commented European players don't push themselves enough. Gatien held a similar view for his young countrymen, that they don't train hard enough.

which boils down to life priorities, not that they are "lazy". Why dedicate your whole life for something that will doubtly give you back the rewards you need or like, not everyone wants to , or tries to be no1

Ilia Minkin · Mar 25, 2018

TTFrenzy said:
which boils down to life priorities, not that they are "lazy". Why dedicate your whole life for something that will doubtly give you back the rewards you need or like, not everyone wants to , or tries to be no1

I think that the gap between CNT and the rest of the World will become much closer when it will become unacceptable to drop out out of school in teenage years.

ttmonster · Mar 25, 2018

He did not enjoy training, especially the physical side of it ... from one of his ex teammates , and they think thats why he got injured .. what do you think about ML's close to the table footwork and XX 's over the table forehand today .. seemed like both were below par ...

NextLevel said:
No this was when he was younger as well. The speculation was that he was always injured and that this limited his practice. But the other viewpoint was that he just didn't enjoy training.

PatriciaPinheiro · Mar 25, 2018

Ilia Minkin said:
I think that the gap between CNT and the rest of the World will become much closer when it will become unacceptable to drop out out of school in teenage years.

But China is talking internally about do this? Cause maybe it's not usually common for other countries athletes do these in table tennis, but for pretty much every sport I know people do "home" study to dedicate themselves to the sport they practice, gymnastics, figure skaters are two I can give example. So if not, I can't imagine this gap been too much smaller, too be honest even if it happens.

rainneverever · Mar 25, 2018

PatriciaPinheiro said:
But China is talking internally about do this? Cause maybe it's not usually common for other countries athletes do these in table tennis, but for pretty much every sport I know people do "home" study to dedicate themselves to the sport they practice, gymnastics, figure skaters are two I can give example. So if not, I can't imagine this gap been too much smaller, too be honest even if it happens.

Of course Chinese teen players do school/home study even after they decide to be a pro, join provincial team and join CNT. They even go to college, well, a lot of people here don't believe and think that's just a fake diploma. I bet they don't learn calculus and theory of relativity but they really don't have to.

PatriciaPinheiro · Mar 25, 2018

rainneverever said:
Of course Chinese teen players do school/home study even after they decide to be a pro, join provincial team and join CNT. They even go to college, well, a lot of people here don't believe and think that's just a fake diploma. I bet they don't learn calculus and theory of relativity but they really don't have to.

Yeah, I know, some of them even study abroad, or intend to, like Ding Ning said in some interviews. I didn't mean to say otherwise of what you just said, I tried to point out that the gap "problem" between CNT and other countries has nothing to do with going to regular school. But I guess I did a bad job LOL

NextLevel · Mar 25, 2018

ttmonster said:
He did not enjoy training, especially the physical side of it ... from one of his ex teammates , and they think thats why he got injured .. what do you think about ML's close to the table footwork and XX 's over the table forehand today .. seemed like both were below par ...

The new ball is very hard to get moving so both players are still figuring out their optimal strategies. But even more importantly, they had a match to play in an hour or so after the final as a team. Knowing them, they probably agreed to just play their best but not to the death and save their efforts to make sure there was no quarter granted in the doubles final.

ttmonster · Mar 26, 2018

You made some good points there .. .and I thought they were just rusty ..

NextLevel said:
The new ball is very hard to get moving so both players are still figuring out their optimal strategies. But even more importantly, they had a match to play in an hour or so after the final as a team. Knowing them, they probably agreed to just play their best but not to the death and save their efforts to make sure there was no quarter granted in the doubles final.

drunix80 · Mar 26, 2018

rainneverever said:
Of course Chinese teen players do school/home study even after they decide to be a pro, join provincial team and join CNT. They even go to college, well, a lot of people here don't believe and think that's just a fake diploma. I bet they don't learn calculus and theory of relativity but they really don't have to.

It was amazing to hear ML speak in English during the prize presentation. For an asian (especially chinese, korean or japanese), it takes some serious effort to speak English that too in front of camera. Goes on to show that CNT players also work on other aspects of life not only play !!!

TableTennisDaily · Mar 26, 2018

FINALS DAY:

Semi Finals:

Ma Long vs Wong Chun Ting

Xu Xin vs Patrick Franziska

Feng Tianwei vs Suh Hyowon

Kasumi Ishikawa vs Cheng I-Ching

Finals:

Ma Long vs Xu Xin

Kasumi Ishikawa vs Suh Hyowon

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Mar 26, 2018

I’m a fan of Ishikawa but I’ve often been harsh on her in my comments.

This time she really had a great tournament. She won Chen Xingtong and Wu Yang with confidence. Actually she had already beaten them in the past but still these are great wins.

She played so well the Chinese players both seemed powerless and to give up before the end. I feel she’s hitting the ball harder than before and that extra power is lifting her very close to the very best Chinese now.

It was nice to see Suh the chopper cutie again in nice form but the final showed her limits.

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