German Open 2018

Ioiettino · Mar 24, 2018

Astorix said:
Richard Prause is commentating on table 1. He is the Sports Director for German table tennis and former German National Coach.
His knowledge about the sport makes it very pleasing for players, to listen. i like.

I was wondering who he was. I like him, too.

Also, props to the German crowd. Watching ML/MJ you'd have the feeling you were missing the match of the century, as the cheers for Ruwen at the next table got so loud. Same thing happened yesterday to a lesser extent, when Calderano / M. Karlsson got outcheered by Walther / K. Karlsson.
Not that the crowd is overly nationalistic, just good old positive, engaged atmosphere. Nice.

Konrad Bak · Mar 24, 2018

no handshake with referees from Freitas

he should blame only his attitude

and Dyjas with "CHINESE EQUIPMENT IS BETTER "
but someone said here that he use h3 xd

the craptain Ma Long

Suga D · Mar 24, 2018

Yeah, agreed.
But Franziska seems to also have overcome his negative streak, and finally starts showing his potential.
Maybe yesterday's match was good for his confidence too. One day before he eliminated polish open winner Jang WooJin clearly.

Nice.

Garrison · Mar 24, 2018

Excellent plays by Chuang Chih Yuan, very tough game for Boll, but exciting rallies.

Ioiettino · Mar 24, 2018

Garrison said:
Excellent plays by Chuang Chih Yuan, very tough game for Boll, but exciting rallies.

I was following Gauzy... Had to revert to this one. Wow. Getting into big rallies to save a match point and stuff.
Niwa vs M. Karlsson should be a cracker, too.

jawien · Mar 24, 2018

zeio said:
Yet another opinion from a pro [Dyjas] that equipment makes all the difference.

It just shows European style does not know yet, how to counter it efficiently. I fear, they don't practice enough against the "Chinese rubbers" and the euro/jap style needs to become more athletic imho.

phorkyas · Mar 24, 2018

Ioiettino said:
I was following Gauzy... Had to revert to this one. Wow. Getting into big rallies to save a match point and stuff.
Niwa vs M. Karlsson should be a cracker, too.

Great matches indeed. (All QFs are righthanded against lefty)

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zeio · Mar 24, 2018

Atas Newton said:
I know it's all in the eye of the beholder, but Mizutani just looks completely doomed from the start, as if he's destined to lose. Tomo, for example, looked far more confident against Fan Zhendong.

Ever heard of Miu Hirano?

She was so cheerful after becoming World Cup holder and ATTC Champion. 6 months down the road, she was crying on national television, mumbling "table tennis is no fun."

When you decide to go against China, be well prepared for the consequences. They will do everything in their power to make your life miserable.

Rwisniewski · Mar 24, 2018

So another big clash between Timo and Ma ...! Can’t wait

, he have less time to recover and he had a thought game. But still I hope he'll win this match and afterwords whole tournament! Go go Timo

jawien · Mar 24, 2018

zeio said:
When you decide to go against China, be well prepared for the consequences. They will do everything in their power to make your life miserable.

Bring it on Zeio! : ) I myself consider no other goal in tt, than beating the top players, which happen to be Chinese these days.

drunix80 · Mar 24, 2018

Ishikwaka is on a Chinese killing spree. It either means she has improved a lot or the newer CNT women's players are following Men's way (LJK/LGY etc).

jawien · Mar 24, 2018

Great success for Kasumi and I-Ching : )
Chinese girls eliminated before SF, quite rare. Still one have to keep in mind, it was like a second team of CNT's. No DN, LSW, CM, ZY, WM ...

Anyway great success for them!

zeio · Mar 24, 2018

Yet, Ishikawa's record against DN and LSW remains at a fat O.

On a serious note, she is under immense pressure to perform. She is now the eldest on the team, at ONLY 25 years old. Numerous TV programs of her makes that a catchphrase. The ABS 40+ has taken a toll on her game and, at her age, she has had much more trouble adapting than her younger teammates. Sayaka Hirano commented Ishikawa is at the same stage as she was several years back when the cellulose acetate 40+ was introduced.

OTOH, the media are starting to wonder if Ishikawa can even secure her spot for Tokyo, referencing S Hirano's retirement at 32 years old, Ai Fukuhara's at 29 years old, and if everything goes as planned, Ishikawa could be playing her last Olympics at 27 years old. The opinions on Japanese major forum 5chan are not all too bright, either.

jawien · Mar 24, 2018

Oldest or not, I think before Tokyo every member on the Japan team must feel pressure.

What draw my attention was how firm her strokes were against WY. She was able to consistently play those high spiny shots before preparing for the big hit, and then follow on strong attacks. I have never seen her like this before.

PatriciaPinheiro · Mar 24, 2018

If everything goes well, I'll see Feng and KASUMI tomorrow in finals

PatriciaPinheiro · Mar 24, 2018

I remember FT had problem with the Singapore team or something like that. It'd be the reason why she has no coach with her or it's not that odd a player who isn't playing against someone from the same association to not have one? (I can't remember from other competitive, I only paid attention now)

zeio · Mar 24, 2018

jawien said:
It just shows European style does not know yet, how to counter it efficiently. I fear, they don't practice enough against the "Chinese rubbers" and the euro/jap style needs to become more athletic imho.

From the podcasts and interviews, I get the impression that they have made zero attempt. It's not just for technique and equipment that they think China has an advantage. I've heard multiple times that they feel CNT players are physically stronger than them.

zeio · Mar 24, 2018

PatriciaPinheiro said:
If everything goes well, I'll see Feng and KASUMI tomorrow in finals

In that case, the odds is against Ishikawa.

She lost more in singles but won more in team. The last time she lost was in the Korea Open 2017.

mky · Mar 24, 2018

Xu Xin went back to his old blade?

zeio · Mar 24, 2018

jawien said:
What draw my attention was how firm her strokes were against WY. She was able to consistently play those high spiny shots before preparing for the big hit, and then follow on strong attacks. I have never seen her like this before.

That's not surprising. The last time Fukuhara and Ishikawa were eliminated by Wu Yang at German Open 2013, Fukuhara consulted with a Chinese coach, who told them that both of them played too safe against choppers. JTTA then hired 2 full-time choppers from China as training partners and things started to change, at least for Ishikawa.

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