• Join our newsletter: 
  • Welcome Guest


    Page 1 of 7 12345 ... LastLast
    Results 1 to 20 of 129
    1. Top | #1
      AfroBro is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Established TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Handmade
      Forehand Rubber Victas V>15 Extra
      Backhand Rubber Victas V > 01 Limber

      Join Date
      Nov 2015
      Location
      Hampshire
      Posts
      117
      Reviews
      Read 1 Reviews
      Liked 152 Times in 48 Posts

      Afrobro's Handmade Blades

      Hi all,

      After reading lots of threads on tabletennisdaily and other forums, I decided to start making a few of my own blades at the end of last year - really fun and a very addictive hobby. I've been playing for nearly 20 years and tried loads of equipment but the freedom to play around with the compositions has been great.

      So far, I've tried Obeche, Balsa, Kiri and thin mahogany as core materials and had some good success but recently I received an amazing batch of Hinoki wood from Mr Shogo Nakamura (http://tsukiita.jp/). The wood is beautiful and it gives off a really nice scent - actually makes me a little nervous to use it!

      Anyway, I have various veneers in 0.6mm, 1.2mm, 2mm and a few 4mm (some Kumamoto and some Kiso, although this is obviously more expensive) and would love to hear from anyone who has worked with it before. This website's been really useful to get an idea of what is already out there (https://stervinou.net/ttbdb/liste.php) but I'd also be interested to hear any thoughts of woods that might pair up nicely with Hinoki or perhaps how it might be incorporated into other tried and tested compositions. I think the first try might be a 5 ply all hinoki blade but I have quite a few woods and a couple of composite materials to play with.

      Looking forward to hearing any suggestions or advice!

      Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Hinoki.jpg 
Views:	1144 
Size:	90.1 KB 
ID:	16527
      Last edited by AfroBro; 05-23-2018 at 01:19 PM.

    2. The Following 10 Users Like AfroBro's Post:

      Ahmad Arnous (06-10-2018),bobpuls (05-24-2018),Nate4s (05-25-2018),shinshiro (05-23-2018),Simas (06-09-2018),Suga D (05-23-2018),Tokieboi (08-06-2020),violoniste18 (07-11-2018),Vrael (06-09-2018),yoass (05-23-2018)

    3. Top | #2
      Suga D is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Europe
      Suga D's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade piece of wood
      Forehand Rubber BH Red Rubber
      Backhand Rubber FH Black Rubber

      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      3rd rock from the sun
      Posts
      3,228
      Reviews
      Read 5 Reviews
      Liked 3,902 Times in 2,003 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro View Post
      Hi all,

      After reading lots of threads on tabletennisdaily and other forums, I decided to start making a few of my own blades at the end of last year - really fun and a very addictive hobby. I've been playing for nearly 20 years and tried loads of equipment but the freedom to play around with the compositions has been great.

      So far, I've tried Obeche, Balsa, Kiri and thin mahogany as core materials and had some good success but recently I received an amazing batch of Hinoki wood from Mr Shogo Nakamura (http://tsukiita.jp/). The wood is beautiful and it gives off a really nice scent - actually makes me a little nervous to use it!

      Anyway, I have various veneers in 0.6mm, 1.2mm, 2mm and a few 4mm (some Kumamoto and some Kiso, although this is obviously more expensive) and would love to hear from anyone who has worked with it before. This website's been really useful to get an idea of what is already out there (https://stervinou.net/ttbdb/liste.php) but I'd also be interested to hear any thoughts of woods that might pair up nicely with Hinoki or perhaps how it might be incorporated into other tried and tested compositions. I think the first try might be a 5 ply all hinoki blade but I have quite a few woods and a couple of composite materials to play with.

      Looking forward to hearing any suggestions or advice!

      Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Hinoki.jpg 
Views:	1144 
Size:	90.1 KB 
ID:	16527
      Hey, sounds interesting. Never met someone who could get his hands on Hinoki. It's quite rare over here.
      Looking forward to your results.

      I have a blade (Nittaku Combi Wood Attack) and it has got an inner ply made of Rosewood (actually the other inner ply is limba afaik. The outer plies and the core is Hinoki.
      Compared to my 3ply Hinoki and to my 3+2 Hinoki+carbon blades it has got a bit more pop.
      Maybe you could try something like that. But in any case try to use hide glue.

      Pls keep us posted how things go.
      Last edited by Suga D; 05-23-2018 at 08:43 PM. Reason: tiny correction

    4. The Following User Likes Suga D's Post:

      bobpuls (07-12-2018)

    5. Top | #3
      langel is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Bulgaria

      Equipment:
      Blade Xiom Vega Tour
      Forehand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Asia 2.2, Xiom Omega V Tour 2.2
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Asia 2.2, Xiom Omega V Tour 2.2

      Join Date
      Apr 2017
      Posts
      1,937
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 898 Times in 625 Posts
      As i'm very happy with my Xiom Vega Tour blade, having in mind the outstanding impression from Xiom Feel ZXIII, both of identical structure, I think that a Katsura core may have something special to say.
      As far as I know there are 1 ply Katsura blades too.

    6. Top | #4
      AfroBro is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Established TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Handmade
      Forehand Rubber Victas V>15 Extra
      Backhand Rubber Victas V > 01 Limber

      Join Date
      Nov 2015
      Location
      Hampshire
      Posts
      117
      Reviews
      Read 1 Reviews
      Liked 152 Times in 48 Posts
      Thanks. The wood wasn't actually all that difficult to get hold of - just a few emails back and forth and then waiting for the post. Mr Nakamura was very helpful and sells the boards in the correct sizes for blade making. I've attached the pricing list for anyone that is interested.

      Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Hinokiprice.JPG 
Views:	1099 
Size:	48.8 KB 
ID:	16530

    7. The Following 4 Users Like AfroBro's Post:

      JST (05-24-2018),langel (05-24-2018),Suga D (05-24-2018),yoass (05-24-2018)

    8. Top | #5
      Suga D is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Europe
      Suga D's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade piece of wood
      Forehand Rubber BH Red Rubber
      Backhand Rubber FH Black Rubber

      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      3rd rock from the sun
      Posts
      3,228
      Reviews
      Read 5 Reviews
      Liked 3,902 Times in 2,003 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro View Post
      Thanks. The wood wasn't actually all that difficult to get hold of - just a few emails back and forth and then waiting for the post. Mr Nakamura was very helpful and sells the boards in the correct sizes for blade making. I've attached the pricing list for anyone that is interested.

      Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Hinokiprice.JPG 
Views:	1099 
Size:	48.8 KB 
ID:	16530
      Oh wow. This might be very interesting for a friend of mine.
      Thanks a million.

    9. The Following User Likes Suga D's Post:

      bobpuls (07-11-2018)

    10. Top | #6
      GinjaNinja is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: UK
      GinjaNinja's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Custom made Limba Hide Glue
      Forehand Rubber Tibhar EL- P
      Backhand Rubber Tibhar FX- P

      Join Date
      Sep 2016
      Location
      UK
      Posts
      350
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 531 Times in 206 Posts
      I'd love to make some suggestions but haven't used hinoki so can't comment. I'm jealous of your supply, if you feel you have too much and want to sell any, let me know, I'd be very interested, let me know. I suppose my advice is to look at what's out there currently and use that as a starting point, as you've identified using blade databases is ideal for this. I always like to expirement with new materials so I get a feel for their properties.

    11. The Following 2 Users Like GinjaNinja's Post:

      bobpuls (07-11-2018),Suga D (05-25-2018)

    12. Top | #7
      UpSideDownCarl is online now
      says Heavy Topspin
       
      Equipment Expert
      Super Moderator Country: United States
      UpSideDownCarl's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade OSP Virtuoso +
      Forehand Rubber BH:Red Rasanter R48
      Backhand Rubber FH:Black Rasanter R48

      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      Location
      Brooklyn, New York
      Posts
      13,910
      Reviews
      Read 11 Reviews
      Liked 15,347 Times in 7,446 Posts
      From my experience, for me, I love Hinoki when it is in an all Hinoki blade. It is also excellent as a top ply because it helps you grab and spin the ball. But I have generally liked Hinoki more when it is in a blade that is all Hinoki.


      Sent from The Subterranean Workshop by Telepathy
      Spin Everything.

    13. The Following User Likes UpSideDownCarl's Post:

      Suga D (05-25-2018)

    14. Top | #8
      SFF_lib is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Elite TTD Member Country: New Zealand
      SFF_lib's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade DHS Hurricane Long 5
      Forehand Rubber DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial No. 22 Blue Sponge Version
      Backhand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 64

      Join Date
      Aug 2016
      Location
      New Zealand
      Posts
      1,136
      Reviews
      Read 2 Reviews
      Liked 774 Times in 471 Posts
      Darker 7p2a is a popular 7-ply made of Hinoki and other wood. It has very good reviews. You can have a look at its composition.

      Passionate about TT

    15. The Following 2 Users Like SFF_lib's Post:

      Suga D (05-25-2018),UpSideDownCarl (05-25-2018)

    16. Top | #9
      UpSideDownCarl is online now
      says Heavy Topspin
       
      Equipment Expert
      Super Moderator Country: United States
      UpSideDownCarl's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade OSP Virtuoso +
      Forehand Rubber BH:Red Rasanter R48
      Backhand Rubber FH:Black Rasanter R48

      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      Location
      Brooklyn, New York
      Posts
      13,910
      Reviews
      Read 11 Reviews
      Liked 15,347 Times in 7,446 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by SFF_lib View Post
      Darker 7p2a is a popular 7-ply made of Hinoki and other wood. It has very good reviews. You can have a look at its composition.

      Passionate about TT
      Darker’s Hinoki blades are top quality.


      Sent from The Subterranean Workshop by Telepathy

    17. The Following User Likes UpSideDownCarl's Post:

      Suga D (05-25-2018)

    18. Top | #10
      AfroBro is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Established TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Handmade
      Forehand Rubber Victas V>15 Extra
      Backhand Rubber Victas V > 01 Limber

      Join Date
      Nov 2015
      Location
      Hampshire
      Posts
      117
      Reviews
      Read 1 Reviews
      Liked 152 Times in 48 Posts
      Thanks for the suggestions! I'm just starting to look into them all - loving the Darker blades.

      I've been away for a little while but just had time to finish my first Hinoki blade. It's a 5 ply all Hinoki - 2mm core, 1.2mm med ply (horizontal), 0.6mm top ply. It's not a perfect finish but certainly looks playable. Final weight is 94g although it could have been lighter if I hadn't used harder woods for the handle (Walnut and Mahogany with 1.5mm Obeche). At some point, I'd like to make some similar blades but with slightly different veneer thickness to see how much that will affect the feel - unfortunately, it'll be a few days until I can test this properly but i've tried to take some photos in different lighting below.

      Click image for larger version. 

Name:	9.jpg 
Views:	1026 
Size:	74.9 KB 
ID:	16658 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	3.jpg 
Views:	1034 
Size:	96.6 KB 
ID:	16659 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	1.jpg 
Views:	1034 
Size:	90.6 KB 
ID:	16660 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	5.jpg 
Views:	1034 
Size:	88.5 KB 
ID:	16661 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	11.jpg 
Views:	1015 
Size:	79.4 KB 
ID:	16662

    19. The Following 8 Users Like AfroBro's Post:

      Andy44 (06-09-2018),bobpuls (11-13-2018),GinjaNinja (06-09-2018),JST (06-09-2018),phorkyas (06-09-2018),Simas (06-09-2018),Suga D (06-09-2018),v100ev (06-09-2018)

    20. Top | #11
      langel is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Bulgaria

      Equipment:
      Blade Xiom Vega Tour
      Forehand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Asia 2.2, Xiom Omega V Tour 2.2
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Asia 2.2, Xiom Omega V Tour 2.2

      Join Date
      Apr 2017
      Posts
      1,937
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 898 Times in 625 Posts
      I have a question - hinoki is a very water absorbing wood. Even with my only outer ply hinoki blade I feel it getting dull after 2 hours of extensive sesion, although the handles are of a water absorbing wood too and it is suposed that thay take the most of the wet. But where will go the wet in an all hinoki blade with much less absorbing handle?

    21. The Following User Likes langel's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (06-09-2018)

    22. Top | #12
      AfroBro is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Established TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Handmade
      Forehand Rubber Victas V>15 Extra
      Backhand Rubber Victas V > 01 Limber

      Join Date
      Nov 2015
      Location
      Hampshire
      Posts
      117
      Reviews
      Read 1 Reviews
      Liked 152 Times in 48 Posts
      Before attaching the handle, I sealed the blade surface so hopefully that will protect it a bit - until I can test it out I can't really say much for sure.

    23. The Following 2 Users Like AfroBro's Post:

      langel (06-09-2018),Suga D (06-09-2018)

    24. Top | #13
      Suga D is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Europe
      Suga D's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade piece of wood
      Forehand Rubber BH Red Rubber
      Backhand Rubber FH Black Rubber

      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      3rd rock from the sun
      Posts
      3,228
      Reviews
      Read 5 Reviews
      Liked 3,902 Times in 2,003 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro View Post
      Thanks for the suggestions! I'm just starting to look into them all - loving the Darker blades.

      I've been away for a little while but just had time to finish my first Hinoki blade. It's a 5 ply all Hinoki - 2mm core, 1.2mm med ply (horizontal), 0.6mm top ply. It's not a perfect finish but certainly looks playable. Final weight is 94g although it could have been lighter if I hadn't used harder woods for the handle (Walnut and Mahogany with 1.5mm Obeche). At some point, I'd like to make some similar blades but with slightly different veneer thickness to see how much that will affect the feel - unfortunately, it'll be a few days until I can test this properly but i've tried to take some photos in different lighting below.

      Click image for larger version. 

Name:	9.jpg 
Views:	1026 
Size:	74.9 KB 
ID:	16658 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	3.jpg 
Views:	1034 
Size:	96.6 KB 
ID:	16659 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	1.jpg 
Views:	1034 
Size:	90.6 KB 
ID:	16660 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	5.jpg 
Views:	1034 
Size:	88.5 KB 
ID:	16661 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	11.jpg 
Views:	1015 
Size:	79.4 KB 
ID:	16662
      Looks stunning!

      Looking forward to when you let us know how it plays.
      And pls let me know when you wanna sell it.

    25. The Following 2 Users Like Suga D's Post:

      RidTheKid (06-09-2018),UpSideDownCarl (06-09-2018)

    26. Top | #14
      AfroBro is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Established TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Handmade
      Forehand Rubber Victas V>15 Extra
      Backhand Rubber Victas V > 01 Limber

      Join Date
      Nov 2015
      Location
      Hampshire
      Posts
      117
      Reviews
      Read 1 Reviews
      Liked 152 Times in 48 Posts
      Thanks Suga! I actually have a couple more on the go already - and hoping to try some composites with Hinoki soon...either way I have about 8/9 blades to test at the moment so if you did want to buy this one feel free to pm me and i'm sure we could work something out. I used Ross Leidy's compact 1 blade shape for this one so it's easy to test out rubbers from all my other blades.

    27. The Following User Likes AfroBro's Post:

      Suga D (06-09-2018)

    28. Top | #15
      UpSideDownCarl is online now
      says Heavy Topspin
       
      Equipment Expert
      Super Moderator Country: United States
      UpSideDownCarl's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade OSP Virtuoso +
      Forehand Rubber BH:Red Rasanter R48
      Backhand Rubber FH:Black Rasanter R48

      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      Location
      Brooklyn, New York
      Posts
      13,910
      Reviews
      Read 11 Reviews
      Liked 15,347 Times in 7,446 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by langel View Post
      I have a question - hinoki is a very water absorbing wood. Even with my only outer ply hinoki blade I feel it getting dull after 2 hours of extensive sesion, although the handles are of a water absorbing wood too and it is suposed that thay take the most of the wet. But where will go the wet in an all hinoki blade with much less absorbing handle?
      This here is the big downside to Hinoki.

    29. The Following User Likes UpSideDownCarl's Post:

      langel (06-09-2018)

    30. Top | #16
      vossi39 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: Germany

      Equipment:
      Blade Stiga Dynasty Carbon
      Forehand Rubber Xiom Omega 7 Asia
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega 7 Pro

      Join Date
      Sep 2015
      Posts
      45
      Reviews
      Read 8 Reviews
      Liked 52 Times in 26 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      From my experience, for me, I love Hinoki when it is in an all Hinoki blade.
      I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I played all Hinoki (Darker) and had a challenge with the catapult of an all hinoki setup. After trying a Hinoki/Carbon (XIOM Vega Tour) I now have the best of both worlds. Hinoki touch and feel during short play, serve and slower loops and stiffness/control and linear speed on faster play.

      I also played the new Joola Nobilis PBO-c (with a 1.2mm Hinoki sheet over the carbon layer), but this was again "too" much Hinoki.

      I currently try the new XIOM Feel ZX3 and like it also (as said it is very similar to the XIOM Vega Tour) but due to its weight a bit faster than my Vega Tour.

    31. The Following User Likes vossi39's Post:

      langel (06-10-2018)

    32. Top | #17
      Suga D is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Europe
      Suga D's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade piece of wood
      Forehand Rubber BH Red Rubber
      Backhand Rubber FH Black Rubber

      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      3rd rock from the sun
      Posts
      3,228
      Reviews
      Read 5 Reviews
      Liked 3,902 Times in 2,003 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by langel View Post
      I have a question - hinoki is a very water absorbing wood. Even with my only outer ply hinoki blade I feel it getting dull after 2 hours of extensive sesion, although the handles are of a water absorbing wood too and it is suposed that thay take the most of the wet. But where will go the wet in an all hinoki blade with much less absorbing handle?
      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      This here is the big downside to Hinoki.
      Yeah, and if the fox wouldn't have pooped he would've caught the rabbit.

      Sorry fellas, but(t)stuff like this blows my fuse.

      I don't like people being negative just for the sake of being negative and smartassery.

      C'mon guys, if this really was an issue, do you seriously think companies like Darker and many others would still be makin Hinoki Blades??

      I mean seriously, since my return to the game seven years ago, i've been using Hinoki+Carbon and pure Hinoki Allwood blades for four years now and never your described issues occured! Neva!
      Not once! Even at tournaments, where one plays a lot, it neva happened to me. Probably 'cause it has had time to dry in the meantime.
      ....And it really can get sweat-soaking hot in German TT-halls!

      Langel, maybe someone put a magic spell on your hinoki outer ply, or maybe it's the combination of the blade, your rubbers and the non-seamed balls, you like to use so much. Who knows?
      Pls. let me know when you've been using a pure Hinoki blade. That would be interesting to me.

      Quote Originally Posted by AfroBro View Post
      Thanks Suga! I actually have a couple more on the go already - and hoping to try some composites with Hinoki soon...either way I have about 8/9 blades to test at the moment so if you did want to buy this one feel free to pm me and i'm sure we could work something out. I used Ross Leidy's compact 1 blade shape for this one so it's easy to test out rubbers from all my other blades.
      Lovely. Thanks a million. Heaven must have sent you.
      The weight is really tempting to me. I've got one in the same-ish weight, that really plays like a dream. All my others are noticably lighter.

      Actually Carl should be able to understand me.
      3 - 4 years ago i was seeking so desperatly for a backup to my 3+2 Hinoki-Carbon old Nittaku Shake Carbon Offence, that i got myself one produced from Americanhinoki. It's nice, but the cedar used feels a little faster than my NSO. Since then i switched to the non-carbon version (Nittaku Killton - a 3ply Hinoki).
      Really looking forward to your findings. As i said: heaven must have sent you.

      Pm is sent.
      Last edited by Suga D; 06-10-2018 at 11:38 AM.

    33. Top | #18
      yogi_bear is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Equipment Expert
      Master TTD Member Country: Philippines
      yogi_bear's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Xiom 36.5; Tmount T540; Yasaka ML Soft Carbon
      Forehand Rubber Omega 7 China;Kokutaku 007 Pro; Hurricane 3
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega 7 Asia; Stiga DNA H; Joola Dynaryz

      Join Date
      Jan 2012
      Location
      Philippines
      Posts
      5,179
      Reviews
      Read 80 Reviews
      Liked 2,390 Times in 1,560 Posts
      Xiom ZXii and iii, ITC XC blades

    34. The Following User Likes yogi_bear's Post:

      Suga D (06-10-2018)

    35. Top | #19
      hills4ever is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: South Korea

      Equipment:
      Blade XIOM Ice Cream JungYoungsik AZXi
      Forehand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Pro
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Euro

      Join Date
      Jan 2018
      Posts
      43
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 88 Times in 26 Posts
      Clearly, some people don't know what good hinoki is. :'(

      No offense to other brands, but if you compare just Hinoki.
      XIOM is far the best.

      XIOM is Hinoki specialist.

      Not all companies have AAA grade Hinoki like XIOM.
      We have a factory in Kiso just to purchase and handle Hinoki.

    36. The Following User Likes hills4ever's Post:

      langel (06-11-2018)

    37. Top | #20
      langel is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Bulgaria

      Equipment:
      Blade Xiom Vega Tour
      Forehand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Asia 2.2, Xiom Omega V Tour 2.2
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega VII Asia 2.2, Xiom Omega V Tour 2.2

      Join Date
      Apr 2017
      Posts
      1,937
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 898 Times in 625 Posts
      I don't understand why my question was qualified as negative.
      The main reason to ask this quastion was not to poop on hinoki, but accenting on one of its properties to point on another aspect - the use of more porous and aborbing material for the handle. Nothing to offense.
      Besides that there is a great difference between expressing an opinion, discussing an opinion, attacking an opinion, and pooping on an opinion. I don't think I ever pooped on an opinion, unlike others.


      Quote Originally Posted by hills4ever View Post
      Clearly, some people don't know what good hinoki is. :'(

      No offense to other brands, but if you compare just Hinoki.
      XIOM is far the best.

      XIOM is Hinoki specialist.

      Not all companies have AAA grade Hinoki like XIOM.
      We have a factory in Kiso just to purchase and handle Hinoki.
      Yes, hills4ever, I like the hinoki line of Xiom very much.
      After some experience with Vega Tour blade I ordered two more, asking for the same weight. One for my son, two for me.
      I don't consider the moistering effect as a big problem, but more as a collateral property. For me having the best synergy with the blade is more important. So I have two identical sets of Xiom Vega Tour blade + Xiom Omega V Asia, and I chamge them between training sessions to keep them equal. After some trainings I have measured 4 grams added to the bat. On tournaments I change them between matches, to keep them dry.
      Thats my experience and personal feeling. It may be wrong, it may look awkward, but it is mine and it works best for me.

      After all I have to excuse to the OP, so my apology, and let hinoki work for all.

    38. The Following User Likes langel's Post:

      RidTheKid (06-11-2018)

    Page 1 of 7 12345 ... LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    Log in or Register
    BACK TO TOP