China Open 2018

usualsuspect · May 30, 2018

Garrison said:
The question is how well Harimoto can deal with ZJK's screaming fans.

I'm sure Harimoto can out-scream the combined voices of all of ZJK's fans.
But seriously though, Harimoto just needs to play well, that's the best way to silence ZJK's fans.

Personally, I'm more intrigued by the match up of Bojan Tokic and Niwa Koki. Two creative players should have an interesting match.

ping fun · May 30, 2018

zeio said:
That's it for the day. I'm beat.

Is there any problem with zjk interview?? I cant open it

usualsuspect · May 30, 2018

Atas Newton said:
the concentration of skill in this China Open is above everything you'd usually see at a Major. Almost every big name is here, apart from Dima.

I'm sure it would be great honor (not to mention bragging rights) for a westerner to take the title on Chinese soil. Of course, China would send out top players to defend the title.

zeio · May 30, 2018

ping fun said:
Is there any problem with zjk interview?? I cant open it

Works fine on my end. Try the direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXcgmZtjU_g

zeio · May 30, 2018

Smart of Dima to pull out. He would've been taken out in the 1st round.

yoass · May 30, 2018

zeio said:
Smart of Dima to pull out. He would've been taken out in the 1st round.

Hm. I don’t think an in-form Dima can be that easily dismissed.

JesperStef · May 30, 2018

Results from Day 2 (Wed 30 May 2018):

Men's Singles

Preliminary Round 2 (notable results):

Bojan Tokic 4:1 Vladimir Samsonov (11:2, 11:9, 11:4, 8:11, 11:7)
Lin Yun-Ju 4:1 Fang Bo (11:5, 11:7, 11:6, 4:11, 11:7)
Masataka Morizono 2:4 Wang Chuqin (8:11, 5:11, 10:12, 12:10, 11:6, 9:11)
Zhou Kai 4:3 Bastian Steger (11:9, 11:9, 9:11, 9:11, 11:9, 8:11, 11:6)
Jin Ueda 0:4 Liang Jingkun (3:11, 5:11, 7:11, 6:11)
Kim Minhyeok 1:4 Zhang Jike (10:12, 7:11, 10:12, 11:9, 5:11)
Kirill Gerassimenko 0:4 Darko Jorgic (8:11, 7:11, 10:12, 6:11)
Ovidiu Ionescu 4:3 Ruwen Filus (11:9, 8:11, 11:4, 10:12, 8:11, 11:9, 12:10)
Mattias Karlsson 2:4 Liam Pitchford (11:3, 7:11, 8:11, 7:11, 11:7, 4:11)
Jiang Tianyi 4:2 Chen Chien An (11:4, 12:14, 11:4, 4:11, 11:9, 11:6)
Yan An 1:4 Ho Kwan Kit (11:7, 9:11, 10:12, 11:13, 9:11)

Preliminary Round 3 (winners qualify for Main Draw):

Jonathan Groth 1:4 Bojan Tokic (1:11, 11:6, 8:11, 9:11, 10:12)
Tiago Apolonia 0:4 Lin Yun-Ju (5:11, 7:11, 5:11, 7:11)
Emmanuel Lebesson 4:2 Benedikt Duda (11:4, 7:11, 11:9, 9:11, 12:10, 11:8)
Wang Chuqin 4:3 Zhou Kai (3:11, 9:11, 11:8, 14:12, 11:13, 11:8, 11:7)

Liang Jingkun 4:1 Jon Persson (11:8, 11:6, 11:9, 10:12, 11:6)
Zhang Jike 4:1 Quadri Aruna (11:5, 11:6, 11:9, 8:11, 12:10)
Xue Fei 0:4 Jang Woojin (8:11, 3:11, 8:11, 2:11)
Darko Jorgic 4:2 Ovidiu Ionescu (11:8, 7:11, 11:8, 11:3, 9:11, 11:5)

Liam Pitchford 4:1 Stefan Fegerl (11:9, 11:7, 11:6, 3:11, 11:4)
Jeoung Youngsik 4:1 Jiang Tianyi (11:3, 11:6, 8:11, 11:6, 11:7)
Lim Jonghoon 4:1 Ricardo Walther (13:11, 11:5, 11:3, 2:11, 11:9)
Alvaro Robles 1:4 Patrick Franziska (11:9, 5:11, 6:11, 7:11, 3:11)

Maharu Yoshimura 1:4 Robert Gardos (8:11, 11:4, 8:11, 7:11, 7:11)
Kou Lei 1:4 Jeong Sangeun (7:11, 2:11, 7:11, 11:5, 9:11)
Yuya Oshima 4:2 Ho Kwan Kit (14:16, 11:8, 11:7, 11:1, 6:11, 11:4)
Alexandre Robinot 2:4 Kristian Karlsson (11:9, 8:11, 7:11, 9:11, 11:8, 5:11)

Women's Singles

Preliminary Round 3 (winners qualify for Main Draw):

Miyu Kato 4:2 Ng Wing Nam (8:11, 11:8, 11:2, 7:11, 11:1, 11:3)
Miyu Maeda 1:4 Gu Yuting (11:9, 7:11, 6:11, 7:11, 5:11)
Han Ying 4:1 Yu Mengyu (11:7, 11:9, 11:7, 9:11, 11:6)
Jung Yumi 0:4 Saki Shibata (8:11, 4:11, 9:11, 4:11)

Bernadette Szocs 0:4 Wu Yang (4:11, 8:11, 7:11, 13:15)
Satsuki Odo 0:4 Yui Hamamoto (7:11, 5:11, 9:11, 6:11)
Jeon Jihee 4:1 Shao Jieni, POR (9:11, 11:8, 11:3, 11:7, 12:10)
Lee Eunhye 0:4 Honoka Hashimoto (6:11, 5:11, 8:11, 6:11)

Sakura Mori 0:4 Lin Ye (w.o.)
Ji Eunchae 4:3 Liu Yu-Hsin (11:6, 7:11, 11:3, 10:12, 11:8, 9:11, 11:7)
Che Xiaoxi 4:2 Cheng Hsien-Tzu (11:8, 9:11, 11:13, 12:10, 11:8, 11:6)
Amelie Solja 4:0 Zhang Mo, CAN (11:9, 11:9, 11:5, 11:9)

Yang Haeun 4:1 Liu Fei (12:10, 11:5, 11:5, 9:11, 11:8)
Petrissa Solja 4:1 Zeng Jian (11:5, 8:11, 11:9, 11:8, 11:8)
Minnie Soo Wai Yam 1:4 Minami Ando (8:11, 11:9, 9:11, 5:11, 7:11)
Miyu Nagasaki 0:4 Sofia Polcanova (8:11, 7:11, 6:11, 8:11)

ZhouZhekai · May 30, 2018

What happened to Fang Bo. In 2015 he had a godly forehand and footwork, but now seems very timid. Is it because of a more backhand dominated game, and less spin for killer shots after the Plastic Ball?

drunix80 · May 30, 2018

ZhouZhekai said:
What happened to Fang Bo. In 2015 he had a godly forehand and footwork, but now seems very timid. Is it because of a more backhand dominated game, and less spin for killer shots after the Plastic Ball?

He has lost his consistency and everybody takes advantage of his weak BH. Plus ball effect. So, thats where he is right now.

NextLevel · May 30, 2018

Looks like Zhang Jike is 100% from a physical standpoint and it pretty much shows. He is putting everything down to experience and accepting that spin doesn't do what it used to do to the opponent.

I really believe Harimoto needs good fortune tomorrow. We have to be patient but I don't see anything really wrong with this recovered Zhang Jike other than the fact that he has to get used to the fact that winners are not as easy to get with pure spin as before. And since he had some of the best movement in the sport before getting injured I don't know what what means for opponents other than that they can test his stamina more.

ttmonster · May 30, 2018

Yes, this is the question thats been bugging me .. how does the match up work ... FZD has gone on record praising Harimoto's backhand , Harimoto is known to blow people out with his speed and off the bounce technique. Zhang Jike prefers to let the ball fall , and put his own spin on it .
From what we are seeing in this comeback mode of Zhang Jike is that he is trying to take the ball earlier than before, he is acutely aware of the fact that there is less spin , he mentioned it twice in his interviews.

So I would say that Zhang Jike is the underdog here , but it will be a very exciting match to witness , hopefully Zhang Jike can figure out a way ...

So

NextLevel said:
Looks like Zhang Jike is 100% from a physical standpoint and it pretty much shows. He is putting everything down to experience and accepting that spin doesn't do what it used to do to the opponent.

I really believe Harimoto needs good fortune tomorrow. We have to be patient but I don't see anything really wrong with this recovered Zhang Jike other than the fact that he has to get used to the fact that winners are not as easy to get with pure spin as before. And since he had some of the best movement in the sport before getting injured I don't know what what means for opponents other than that they can test his stamina more.

NextLevel · May 30, 2018

ttmonster said:
Yes, this is the question thats been bugging me .. how does the match up work ... FZD has gone on record praising Harimoto's backhand , Harimoto is known to blow people out with his speed and off the bounce technique. Zhang Jike prefers to let the ball fall , and put his own spin on it .
From what we are seeing in this comeback mode of Zhang Jike is that he is trying to take the ball earlier than before, he is acutely aware of the fact that there is less spin , he mentioned it twice in his interviews.

So I would say that Zhang Jike is the underdog here , but it will be a very exciting match to witness , hopefully Zhang Jike can figure out a way ...

So

Sandbagging ZJK fans. Harimoto is not better than Lin Gaoyuan. Zhang Jike could beat Lin Gaoyuan injured, spin or no spin.

I cannot consider Harimoto the favorite.

ttmonster · May 30, 2018

Not sandbagging , I know ZJK was impressive against Aruna Quadri ... but you have to agree it was pitting strength vs weakness , ZJK's BH vs Quadri's BH ... with Harimoto it will be different ... thats why I was focusing on matchup

NextLevel said:
Sandbagging ZJK fans. Harimoto is not better than Lin Gaoyuan. Zhang Jike could beat Lin Gaoyuan injured, spin or no spin.

I cannot consider Harimoto the favorite.

Garrison · May 30, 2018

What does he mean by competition is getting less? That there are less players left in the competition with every round?

usualsuspect · May 30, 2018

Garrison said:
What does he mean by competition is getting less? That there are less players left in the competition with every round?

That was improper translation. What ZJK actually said was that his opportunity to compete is less and less with each passing day, so he will treasure each match and each point.

Suga D · May 30, 2018

Oh thanks, that makes totally sense and that's something else what i first thought then. I first thought that he meant that he's struggling less and he's slowly getting used to compete again.

drunix80 · May 30, 2018

Rather than being pitted against ML, FZD or TB, ZJK has a much more realistic chance of making it against Tomo. Plus CNT had enough time to work on Tomo's weaknesses by now. We have to wait one more day however. And ZJK has some mixed doubles matches to sharpen up his match fitness.

ttpshot · May 31, 2018

Loving the fact so many top players are competing in a PT open. I don't care if the world ranking doesn't truly reflect the players' strength if this is what we're going to see in every premier open.

Also great to see China sending more players to PT. Good for the game.

NextLevel · May 31, 2018

drunix80 said:
He has lost his consistency and everybody takes advantage of his weak BH. Plus ball effect. So, thats where he is right now.

Li Yun Ju is also an exceptional talent, there was no way FB could give him credit. Danny Seemiller argued that Ma Long has the worst first round matchup and I can't disagree with him based on the prelims.

zeio · May 31, 2018

Garrison said:
What does he mean by competition is getting less? That there are less players left in the competition with every round?

Chances to compete. I clarified in the title shortly after publishing the video but I was too brain-dead by the time to add that to the sub. Now fixed. Still, in the original dialog, he didn't utter the word "chances", just competition. I thought it was obvious given the subsequent explanation he gave.

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