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    Xiom Vega China VM Review

    Xiom Vega China VM
    Weight: 73 grams uncut
    Hardness: Hard, 54 degrees
    Thickness: Max
    Speed: OFF+
    Spin: Extremely High







    The Xiom Vega China is a best-selling rubber in China. It has been out in the market for quite a while now but this is the first time I have tried it since I am looking for an H3 Neo alternative. The Vega China has supposedly 2 versions because I saw another version with VH marking on it but I asked Xiom for this info and they said this was not released. Out of the package, the rubber is covered with plastic and when I removed it, it was sticky. It was sticky that it could hold the ball for a second before it drops it. The topsheet is can sometimes be mistaken as a Chinese rubber but this is a tensor type rubber. The sponge is very identical to the Vega Def rubber which has a non porous and black sponge texture. The sponge is very hard and I can compare it to the 39-40 degree. It is very hard when you press it against your fingers. I have used it on several blades like Xiom Feel AX, Adidas Strikewood 7 and Sanwei Fextra blades. I also have a friend who has tried it on his Nexy Arirang blade.



    The rubber is fast despite being tacky. The Xiom Tau before which was also a hard and tacky rubber does not have this speed. The Tau rubber before seem to lose bounce when you are hitting with it and the energy of the ball dissipates faster when hitting with it. With the Vega China VM, speed is fast and comparable to that of Vega Pro if not a little slower. The rubber has this high pitched hitting sound when you are driving or hitting the ball. Imagine a boosted Hurricane 3 but a bit faster by few levels, that is how fast the China VM is. Maximum distance for this is middle distance from the table if you are using an all wood blade. If you are using a carbon composite blade then even away from the table it is fine.

    The Vega China VM is the spinniest rubber among Xiom rubbers because of its tackiness but it needs good technique to bring out its potential spin. A friend of mine who uses the Sanwei Target National rubber as a forehand rubber finds the China VM spinnier than Target National. I myself find it as spinny as Hurricane 3 in which I forgot to mention I tested in the same blade as the Vega China VM just to have a head to head comparison. The Hurricane 3 rubber that I was using had the purple packaging in it and was boosted by falco 3-4 layers. The Vega China has a higher arc. When you are looping the ball even with a closed racket, it has a higher arc compared to the Hurricane 3.

    This is not a rubber for beginners. It needs good brushing technique but it is easier to use than regular Chinese rubbers because it does not hit the net as often as Chinese rubbers when you are flat hitting with it. As what I have mentioned, speed is almost at the Vega Pro rubber level but when you are brushing the ball, the power of the Vega China VM is above the Vega Pro because of the combination of speed and tons of spin. You are literally using a Hurricane 3 neo on steroids if you are using the Vega China VM rubber. I have been a Chinese rubber user for so many years now, I have tried a lot of rubbers and settled with either Hurricane 3 neo or Globe 999 National boosted. I like the Vega Tour rubber but I miss the tackiness of the Hurricane 3 rubber so I am settling down with this now and try to see how much the rubber can give me. Although the boost in speed is a big plus factor already, the amount of spin is a quite a big surprise for long time Hurricane 3 users. Only thing I need to adjust with it is that using it needs good brushing technique. You can sink the ball into the sponge fine but you should be able to brush the ball properly. The moment you can brush the ball or have been used to brushing the ball when using a Chinese rubber then this rubber is awesome. Even with just a slight flick of the wrist, the Vega China Can lift underspin easily. Serving with it is yields very good amount of spin and when you do spinny underspin pushes, it can produce a sharp and spinny push. Adjustment also needs when doing blocking as the rubber is a bit sensitive to incoming spin typical of a Chinese rubber type or like make up. Also, when doing smashes, you have to brush the ball a little bit and have a more closed angle drive smash. I also do no encourage doing punch blocks with it when the ball is low with it.

    For people who are fond of looking for an alternative rubbers for a forehand and backhand Hurricane 3 like the ones they are seeing CNT players have, the Vega China VM is a good alternative since if you use the rubber as a backhand rubber, you will have a vicious backhand topspin drives and also killer pushes. I suggest to use this on a limba or koto outer ply blade. I also like it better with all wood blades so this would be good for blades like Xiom S7, Zeta Offensive and if you want something lighter probably the Solo or Offensive S. Mind you, the rubber is heavy so you need to have a lighter blade with this.




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    I recently bought this myself with the same reason as you. I also use hard Chinese rubbers and want to find a replacement as boosting gets tiring and I have to say this is probably the best hybrid I've tried. However it did come with an unbelievable strong smell. I presume it's also been heavily tuned so we will see how long it lasts!

    I have to say the packaging is superb. Even the clear plastic wrap was of good quality and the plastic sheet on the rubber is so thick it can be your rubber protecting sheet!

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    What about the durability? When I used it a few years back, a brand new sheet could turn into anti-spin in three weeks of regular training, 2-3 practice sessions per week. I ditched for this reason. After two weeks tackiness used to wear of completely, and it felt like a harder and heavier version of Vega Pro.

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    I've had mine for about a week. I will update this thread when the rubber drops in performance

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    The tackiness goes away after 2-3 days but the spin still remains. I will have to wait for a month to see the durability.

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    any updates on durability/spin?

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    I play 2x. A week. As of the moment there is some reduction after 2 months. I am using the red one. Speed is still the same

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    Just get a battle2. Fast, spinny as hell and tackiness won't go away for a year at least heh.

    None of this 'planned obsolescence' euro/jap bullshit

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    So how long did the Vega China last, I guess not very long as none of you are still using it?

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    3 months if used at least 3x a week. Same lifespan with k1 hybrid, joola tango etc.

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    I've been using this rubber for 2 months for 10hrs/week. No noticable deterioration of spin. Some deterioration of speed though. I would also want to mention there is one peculiar thing about this rubber. It has two very distinct gears. On low impact it seams to mostly choke the bounce, but one hit hard it has strong catapult effect. Some folks told me it's typical for this generation of ESN rubbers, but for me it's new and interesting behaviour. If one have good touch it's very usable. Thin brush for spiny loops and bounce for smashes <3

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    Only thing i do not like is that the black one easily gets white discoloration due to dust or sweat. Ideal only to be played on taraflex floors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    Only thing i do not like is that the black one easily gets white discoloration due to dust or sweat. Ideal only to be played on taraflex floors.
    Yes, this rubber very easily picks crap from the floor. I have samoyed dog which is shedding at the moment and my red sheet is white :|

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    Red sheet is a bit better. Black sheet picks up more.

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    I've played for about with the rubber for about 100hrs now. Perfect FH rubber for me. Durability wise it needed to be rebooted to be playable again. The sponge became rock hard after 3 months (I've put it on in the January or December, now its June, but April and may went through the window because Corona). After applying a mild booster it's great again. This rubber sucks ultra hard in cold moist conditions.
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    Today I measured my rubber's sponge with Shore A durometer. I got An average reading of 40 degrees (there were some 41 and 39 spots, total of 20 measurements).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto
    Today I measured my rubber's sponge with Shore A durometer. I got An average reading of 40 degrees (there were some 41 and 39 spots, total of 20 measurements).
    So more or less it is near the H3's hardness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    So more or less it is near the H3's hardness.
    After usage (and maybe a thinnest of layers of baby oil, its 39 on average, measured on my old sheet).

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    I just tried the xiom vega china + sanwei paramid, my impression is that the rotation is indeed extraordinary but I still have trouble with passive blocks, rally and control. hopefully over time it can get better.

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    Kuba Haji;315735Saya sudah bermain-main dengan karet selama sekitar 100 jam sekarang. Karet FH yang sempurna untuk saya. Dari segi daya tahan, itu perlu di-boot ulang agar dapat dimainkan lagi. Spons menjadi keras setelah 3 bulan (saya telah memakainya pada bulan Januari atau Desember, sekarang Juni, tetapi April dan mungkin melewati jendela karena Corona). Habis pake mild booster bagus lagi. Karet ini menyedot sangat keras dalam kondisi lembab yang dingin.

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