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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by waldner4ever
    That is very true Viwa! but I meant that it is like a factory of good players
    I agree with that

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Michal_Z
    Im afraid thats just not what he ment
    I think he is interested just in those matches before 2002
    Yes,you are right, results post 2002 are in ratingcentral.com)
    And berfore 1997 - in Waldner interwiew. But in this interwiew there are a lot of mistakes. My research at this moment:Wan Liqin - Waldner 4-2
    Ma Lin Waldner 7-2 Liu Waldner 6-3

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    #23
    bump!!!

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    #24

    Here are some head-2-heads (for comparison):

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. WANG Liqin, Record: 2:6

    beat WANG Liqin CHN 3:0 1997 Pro Tour Japan Open, Final
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 2:3 1997 ITTF Pro Tour Grand Finals, QF
    beat WANG Liqin CHN 2:1 1999 Men's World Cup in Xiaolan, China
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 1:3 2001 China vs. Sweden
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 1:3 2002 China vs. World Challenge
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 0:3 Japanese Super Circuit 2005-2006
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 1:4 2004 Olympics in Athens, Greece, Pos 3/4
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 3:4 2004 Pro Tour Singapore Open

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. KONG Linghui, Record: 8:8

    beat KONG Linghui CHN 2:0 1992 Swedish Club League, Team
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:2 1993 Swedish Club League, Team
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 2:0 1994 Swedish Open, Team F
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:2 1994 Men's World Cup at Taipeh, QF
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 2:1 1996 Men's World Cup at Nimes/FRA
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:1 1997 Pro Tour Qatar Open, SF

    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:3 1997 Men's World Cup at Nimes/FRA, QF
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:1 1998 Pro Tour Italian Open, QF
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:2 1999 WTTC in Einhoven, NED, QF

    lost KONG Linghui CHN 1:2 1999 Pondus Cup, SF
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 1:2 1999 China vs. Sweden
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:2 2000 WTTC (Team) in Kuala Lumpur, MAS, Final
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:2 2000 China vs. Sweden
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 2:3 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, AUS, Final
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:2 2001 China vs. Sweden
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:3 2004 China vs. World Challenge

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. LIU Guoliang, Record: 3:6*

    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 0:2 1992 China Open, Team SF
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 2:3 1995 World Championships, R16
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 1:3 1996 Men's World Cup (Nimes), F
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 0:3 1998 Pro Tour Italian Open, F
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 1:3 1998 Pro Tour Grand Finals (Paris), SF
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 1:3 1999 Pro Tour German Open, SF
    beat LIU Guoliang CHN 2:1 2000 World Team Championships, F
    beat LIU Guoliang CHN 2:0 2000 China vs. Sweden Team friendly
    beat LIU Guoliang CHN 3:0 2000 Olympic Games, SF


    *I think this is the correct H2H - in the www is often told 4:5

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. MA Lin, Record: 4:8

    beat MA Lin CHN 2:1 1992 Japan Open, Team
    beat MA Lin CHN 3:1 1996 Pro Tour Yugoslav Open, SF
    beat MA Lin CHN 3:1 1998 Pro Tour Italian Open, SF

    lost MA Lin CHN 1:2 1999 World Club Championships, SF
    lost MA Lin CHN 2:3 1999 World Championships, SF*
    lost MA Lin CHN 0:2 2000 Men's World Cup, Group
    lost MA Lin CHN 2:3 2001 Pro Tour China Open, SF
    lost MA Lin CHN 1:4 2001 Pro Tour Danish Open, F
    lost MA Lin CHN 3:4 2001 Pro Tour Grand Finals (Hainan), R16**
    beat MA Lin CHN 4:1 2004 Olympic Games, R16
    lost MA Lin CHN 0:3 2004 China vs. World Challenge (Team)
    lost MA Lin CHN 1:4 2005 Pro Tour Qatar Open
    * J-O 2:0 up - almost moving into his 5th men's singles final
    **pay attention to the Grand Final loss, with being up 10:5 in tha last game!

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Friendshipper

    Here are some head-2-heads (for comparison):

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. WANG Liqin, Record: 2:6

    beat WANG Liqin CHN 3:0 1997 Pro Tour Japan Open, Final
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 2:3 1997 ITTF Pro Tour Grand Finals, QF
    beat WANG Liqin CHN 2:1 1999 Men's World Cup in Xiaolan, China
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 1:3 2001 China vs. Sweden
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 1:3 2002 China vs. World Challenge
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 0:3 Japanese Super Circuit 2005-2006
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 1:4 2004 Olympics in Athens, Greece, Pos 3/4
    lost WANG Liqin CHN 3:4 2004 Pro Tour Singapore Open

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. KONG Linghui, Record: 8:8

    beat KONG Linghui CHN 2:0 1992 Swedish Club League, Team
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:2 1993 Swedish Club League, Team
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 2:0 1994 Swedish Open, Team F
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:2 1994 Men's World Cup at Taipeh, QF
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 2:1 1996 Men's World Cup at Nimes/FRA
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:1 1997 Pro Tour Qatar Open, SF

    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:3 1997 Men's World Cup at Nimes/FRA, QF
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:1 1998 Pro Tour Italian Open, QF
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:2 1999 WTTC in Einhoven, NED, QF

    lost KONG Linghui CHN 1:2 1999 Pondus Cup, SF
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 1:2 1999 China vs. Sweden
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:2 2000 WTTC (Team) in Kuala Lumpur, MAS, Final
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:2 2000 China vs. Sweden
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 2:3 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, AUS, Final
    beat KONG Linghui CHN 3:2 2001 China vs. Sweden
    lost KONG Linghui CHN 0:3 2004 China vs. World Challenge

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. LIU Guoliang, Record: 3:6*

    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 0:2 1992 China Open, Team SF
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 2:3 1995 World Championships, R16
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 1:3 1996 Men's World Cup (Nimes), F
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 0:3 1998 Pro Tour Italian Open, F
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 1:3 1998 Pro Tour Grand Finals (Paris), SF
    lost LIU Guoliang CHN 1:3 1999 Pro Tour German Open, SF
    beat LIU Guoliang CHN 2:1 2000 World Team Championships, F
    beat LIU Guoliang CHN 2:0 2000 China vs. Sweden Team friendly
    beat LIU Guoliang CHN 3:0 2000 Olympic Games, SF


    *I think this is the correct H2H - in the www is often told 4:5

    WALDNER Jan-Ove vs. MA Lin, Record: 4:8

    beat MA Lin CHN 2:1 1992 Japan Open, Team
    beat MA Lin CHN 3:1 1996 Pro Tour Yugoslav Open, SF
    beat MA Lin CHN 3:1 1998 Pro Tour Italian Open, SF

    lost MA Lin CHN 1:2 1999 World Club Championships, SF
    lost MA Lin CHN 2:3 1999 World Championships, SF*
    lost MA Lin CHN 0:2 2000 Men's World Cup, Group
    lost MA Lin CHN 2:3 2001 Pro Tour China Open, SF
    lost MA Lin CHN 1:4 2001 Pro Tour Danish Open, F
    lost MA Lin CHN 3:4 2001 Pro Tour Grand Finals (Hainan), R16**
    beat MA Lin CHN 4:1 2004 Olympic Games, R16
    lost MA Lin CHN 0:3 2004 China vs. World Challenge (Team)
    lost MA Lin CHN 1:4 2005 Pro Tour Qatar Open
    * J-O 2:0 up - almost moving into his 5th men's singles final
    **pay attention to the Grand Final loss, with being up 10:5 in tha last game!

    Great post, man!!! Thanks a lot!! Do you have similar data for: Waldner vs Boll, Wang Hao, Persson? Also in another thread I gave request for other pairings (without Waldner).


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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Hetherington
    and 5 serves each and played to 21 with green tables and old black bicycle rubber glue and orange balls of course, well we could just have a scrap on
    Hey Hey, I played before Waldner became great and for sure we didn't use orange ball and had no bicycle rubber. 😁
    Seriously, the rubbers and blades is not much different today, just the material and size of the ball...
    There was even Chinese and tacky rubbers back then, I used to play with super sriver on a Kenny style BTY blade.

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