Ma Long is the most deserving player for 2012 Olympics

Zhang jike lost every single match he played against Ma Long. So i think he'll get some advantage over zjk in the selection process..

Originally Posted by paras.oriental

But what about Wang hao... we cant underestimate Wang Hao also.......... He's a gr8 player...

If there would be 2 player to pick I wouldn't know a reason to go with others that Zhang Jike and Ma Long if you want the strongest two. Wang Hao is a great player, but not as great as Zhang and Ma at the moment.

But the coach said that Zhang is too arogant...
The olympics are way too important to fail by too much confidence or something.
MA long wil go but the second place is not decided i think

Originally Posted by Scorpnox

But the coach said that Zhang is too arogant...
The olympics are way too important to fail by too much confidence or something.
MA long wil go but the second place is not decided i think

I don't think that will happen. Wang Hao is just not as good as Zhang Jike, wether he is arrogant or not. Against practically any random player, Zhang has a better chance to win than Wang at the moment.

Originally Posted by WiWa

I don't think that will happen. Wang Hao is just not as good as Zhang Jike, wether he is arrogant or not. Against practically any random player, Zhang has a better chance to win than Wang at the moment.

Hmmm this I actually don't think so. It has been a bit iffy after Wang Hao lost to Octvarchov, but otherwise, Zhang Jike actually performs worse against many of the non-Chinese players, which after all is the most important consideration for the Chinese national team. Zhang Jike lost to one of the korean players this year. Players with good backhands tend to actually play a lot better against ZJK than they do against Wang Hao. A lot of european players tend to have trouble and are not as used to Wang Hao's style as they are to ZJK's. People like Bastian Steger, even though ZJK still beats them, tend to do better against ZJK than they otherwise would do against someone like Wang Hao.

I don't think the arrogance factor really matters. From what I have seen of ZJK, the bigger the stage, the more clutch he tends to be.

Originally Posted by scylla24

Hmmm this I actually don't think so. It has been a bit iffy after Wang Hao lost to Octvarchov, but otherwise, Zhang Jike actually performs worse against many of the non-Chinese players, which after all is the most important consideration for the Chinese national team. Zhang Jike lost to one of the korean players this year. Players with good backhands tend to actually play a lot better against ZJK than they do against Wang Hao. A lot of european players tend to have trouble and are not as used to Wang Hao's style as they are to ZJK's. People like Bastian Steger, even though ZJK still beats them, tend to do better against ZJK than they otherwise would do against someone like Wang Hao.

I don't think the arrogance factor really matters. From what I have seen of ZJK, the bigger the stage, the more clutch he tends to be.

ZJK maybe drops more games, but that has also to do with the fact that he likes to be lazy until he has to go all-out. If he loses games, like against Kishikawa in the Grand Finals, he can make it up by stepping up his game. He did the same against Ovcharov in the World Cup. That is his problem, that he doesn't give it his all from the start. What u say about Wang's playing style is true, but that means that those players would cause him even more trouble after getting used to his game. This is not or less the case when they play against Zhang Jike. I think it would be a big risk for the Chinese team to let anyone other than ZJK/Ma Long play the most important matches. ZJK is at his best when it matters. Even though he might perform bad, he won't lose. Wang Hao is more likely to lose when he performs bad those days. He doesn't have the extra in the tank that ZJK has.

zhang go for sure. but as to the longa can be a problem because in one of the reports about the coaches talk about his weak psyche in the most important tournaments in the world team championships and loss of timo, in the world cup with Samsonov and of course the individual championship of the world where losing the most important moments.

Originally Posted by PingPongPom

I have to agree with Mr.RicharD on that one, Wang Hao will be gunning for a gold medal if he makes the cut big time

That hunger might as well make him perform worse, putting himself under that pressure. Wang Hao is almost used to being number two. First behind Ma Lin or Wang Liqin and more recently behind Zhang Jike or Ma Long.