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      July World Rankings 2018

      The July World Rankings have been released with some notable changes!


      Lin Gaoyuan career high world ranking #3 - Photo via ITTF Flickr

      The new world ranking structure is now in full effect. See for yourself in the latest world rankings. Ma Long drops to number 6, Timo moves back up to number 2, Lin Gaoyuan hits a career high of 3 and Fan Zhendong retains his world number 1 status!

      Here's the top 30 list below:


      MENS WORLD RANKING

      01 (01) Fan Zhendong
      02 (04) Timo Boll
      03 (05) Lin Gaoyuan
      04 (03) Dimitrij Ovtcharov
      05 (06) Xu Xin
      06 (02) Ma Long
      07 (08) Lee Sang Su
      08 (10) Tomokazu Harimoto
      09 (07) Wong Chun Ting
      10 (11) Hugo Calderano
      11 (12) Simon Gauzy
      12 (09) Koki Niwa
      13 (13) Jun Mizutani
      14 (15) Chuang Chih Yuan
      15 (14) Kenta Matsudaira
      16 (16) Marcos Freitas
      17 (19) Jonathan Groth
      18 (20) Mattias Karlsson
      19 (21) Ruwen Filus
      20 (22) Quadri Aruna
      21 (17) Omar Assar
      22 (18) Kristian Karlsson
      23 (28) Jeong Sangeun
      24 (25) Patrick Franziska
      25 (26) Vladimir Samsonov
      26 (23) Jin Ueda
      26 (30) Maharu Yoshimura
      28 (23) Lim Jonghoon (117357)
      29 (33) Kou Lei
      30 (34) Jang Woojin



      WOMENS WORLD RANKING

      01 (02) Zhu Yuling
      02 (03) Wang Manyu
      03 (01) Chen Meng
      04 (04) Kasumi Ishikawa
      05 (06) Mima Ito
      06 (05) Liu Shiwen
      07 (10) Chen Xingtong
      08 (07) Miu Hirano
      09 (08) Cheng I-Ching
      10 (09) Feng Tianwei
      11 (13) Doo Hoi Kem
      12 (17) Gu Yuting
      13 (15) Suh Hyowon SUH Hyowon
      14 (14) Hitomi Sato
      15 (16) Hina Hayata
      16 (18) Sofia Polcanova
      17 (12) Ding Ning
      18 (20) Lee Ho Ching
      18 (20) Miyu Kato
      20 (22) Saki Shibata
      21 (19) Elizabeta Samara
      22 (23) Zhang Mo
      23 (24) Chen Szu Yu
      24 (27) Honoka Hashimoto
      25 (30) Matilda Ekholm
      26 (31) Li Qian
      27 (34) Yui Hamamoto
      28 (36) Bernadette Szocs
      29 (11) Yingsha Sun
      30 (25) Jihee Jeon


      A huge congratulations to Lin Gaoyuan who reaches a career high world ranking of 3!

      What do you think of the July World Rankings? Leave your comments below.

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      I think you have a typo in the Women's #2: Should be Wang Manyu
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      Quote Originally Posted by trumpet_guy View Post
      I think you have a typo in the Women's #2: Should be Wang Manyu
      Typo, updated

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      Very close to a non chinese player being number 1 in the womens cat

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      how much do these rankings even count these days

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      Quote Originally Posted by ronz91 View Post
      how much do these rankings even count these days
      Good point. I'm not seeing any regularity atm. Im not sure if thats a good or bad thing

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      Does anyone know of a site on the Internet that has an historical list of the number 1 players in the world as each one succeeded the other in turn?

      Thanks in advance to who ever can point me the right direction.

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      I have time taking these rankings seriously. I know it's a tricky thing to establish a set of standard with which to rank players, but seriously when some players with higher ranking have never beaten a player with lower rankings, the ranking becomes somewhat of a joke.

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      Doesn't really correspond to the eye test.

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      The new rankings system is doing exactly what it is intended to do. It is rewarding players who play, and punishing players who don't. It is more of a "who has played the best over the past year in ITTF events" and ranking those players accordingly.

      The old system, like any ELO based rating system rewarded you for wins, punished you for losses, but didn't take into account participation, and so players once they got to a certain level, could play very few events, but maintain their high seeding. They had no risk of any detriment to their world ranking. This meant players could play a few events each year, yet still maintain their top seeding. This is what the ITTF wanted to get rid of, and it has done so very effectively.

      Ding Ning is a key example of how the new system is punishing lack of participation. She only played in 1 event from the WTTC last May to the end of the year, and that was in November in Sweden. As a result she only has 6 results in the timeframe taken into account for the July ratings which is why she has dropped further in the ratings. She would now actually have to go through qualification rounds at a large event if the top 16 players are all in attendance, as she's down to #17. If she plays enough events her rating will rise, if she doesn't it will continue to fall as her WTTC win last year is going to fall off the rankings soon (Next month I think) and that is 3000 points.

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      poor Ding Ning and poor Zhang Jike...

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      Quote Originally Posted by cfagyal View Post
      The new rankings system is doing exactly what it is intended to do. It is rewarding players who play, and punishing players who don't. It is more of a "who has played the best over the past year in ITTF events" and ranking those players accordingly.

      The old system, like any ELO based rating system rewarded you for wins, punished you for losses, but didn't take into account participation, and so players once they got to a certain level, could play very few events, but maintain their high seeding. They had no risk of any detriment to their world ranking. This meant players could play a few events each year, yet still maintain their top seeding. This is what the ITTF wanted to get rid of, and it has done so very effectively.

      Ding Ning is a key example of how the new system is punishing lack of participation. She only played in 1 event from the WTTC last May to the end of the year, and that was in November in Sweden. As a result she only has 6 results in the timeframe taken into account for the July ratings which is why she has dropped further in the ratings. She would now actually have to go through qualification rounds at a large event if the top 16 players are all in attendance, as she's down to #17. If she plays enough events her rating will rise, if she doesn't it will continue to fall as her WTTC win last year is going to fall off the rankings soon (Next month I think) and that is 3000 points.
      I believe the drop off(or amortization) of the WTTC results is why she and Ma Long have fallen.
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      They haven't dropped yet. They are both still getting full points for them. But not ITTF results from June of last year dropped off, so Ma Long lost 1350 rating points because his result from the China Open last year is no longer part of his rating. His win in the 2017 Japan Open was replaced with a QF result in the 2018 Japan open so he lost almost 1000 points there as well.

      It appears WTTC results stay on the ratings longer than regular ITTF tour events which are relevant for a year. WTTC rating points last for 2 years (according to https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.ne...ld-Ranking.pdf those rating points last until the next time that event is held)
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      Sofia Polcanova better ranked than Ding Ning, and what was the result of their last match ???

      enough said !!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Takkyu_wa_inochi View Post
      Sofia Polcanova better ranked than Ding Ning, and what was the result of their last match ???

      enough said !!!
      Ma Long better ranked than Tomokazu Harimoto, and what was the result of their last match?



      Come on, this ranking system is better than ever.

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      Hugo breaks the top 10, this has made me happy

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      Quote Originally Posted by sderyke2002 View Post
      Does anyone know of a site on the Internet that has an historical list of the number 1 players in the world as each one succeeded the other in turn?

      Thanks in advance to who ever can point me the right direction.
      ITTF will have this and much more before the end of 2018. It's being developed already so we don't have to wait too much longer.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cfagyal View Post
      The new rankings system is doing exactly what it is intended to do. It is rewarding players who play, and punishing players who don't. It is more of a "who has played the best over the past year in ITTF events" and ranking those players accordingly.

      The old system, like any ELO based rating system rewarded you for wins, punished you for losses, but didn't take into account participation, and so players once they got to a certain level, could play very few events, but maintain their high seeding. They had no risk of any detriment to their world ranking. This meant players could play a few events each year, yet still maintain their top seeding. This is what the ITTF wanted to get rid of, and it has done so very effectively.

      Ding Ning is a key example of how the new system is punishing lack of participation. She only played in 1 event from the WTTC last May to the end of the year, and that was in November in Sweden. As a result she only has 6 results in the timeframe taken into account for the July ratings which is why she has dropped further in the ratings. She would now actually have to go through qualification rounds at a large event if the top 16 players are all in attendance, as she's down to #17. If she plays enough events her rating will rise, if she doesn't it will continue to fall as her WTTC win last year is going to fall off the rankings soon (Next month I think) and that is 3000 points.
      I dont see the point of that. seeding is meant to keep strong players from playing each other in the early rounds so as to get strong matches in the later stages. If a player is strong enough to win big tournaments, why the need to play smaller tournaments.
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      Vladis ranking makes me sad but hes been on the slide recently

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      Quote Originally Posted by ronz91 View Post
      I dont see the point of that. seeding is meant to keep strong players from playing each other in the early rounds so as to get strong matches in the later stages. If a player is strong enough to win big tournaments, why the need to play smaller tournaments.
      The point is that seeding perfectly based on strength creates no ranking incentive for people to play to demonstrate their playing strength. Seeding in part based on recent results means that some players will be forced to play smaller tournaments to keep their ratings up and that some players will be forced to risk being upset by wild cards etc. Perfect seeding has it's dark side too from a spectator interest viewpoint.

      As long as your view is balanced and you make your preferences clear, then you can see why others may disagree.

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