Who do you think will win the Australian Open 2017?

  • Dimitrij Ovtcharov

    Votes: 2 4.7%
  • Xu Xin

    Votes: 22 51.2%
  • Lee Sangsu

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Koki Niwa

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Tomokazu Harimoto

    Votes: 9 20.9%
  • Hugo Calderano

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • Simon Gauzy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jun Mizutani

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • Kenta Matsudaira

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (Post Below)

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Total voters
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Selected results from Day 2 (Wed 25 July 2018):

Men's Singles

Qualification groups:

Yu Ziyang 4:3 Jang Woojin [2] (8:11, 13:11, 12:10, 6:11, 13:11, 8:11, 11:9)
[4] Yuya Oshima 4:3 An Jaehyun (11:7, 11:13, 7:11, 4:11, 11:8, 11:1, 11:9)
[6] Jeoung Youngsik 4:0 Takuya Jin (11:9, 15:13, 11:6, 13:11)
Yuki Hirano 4:1 Benedikt Duda [7] (7:11, 11:9, 11:9, 11:8, 11:6)
Liu Dingshuo 4:0 Liao Cheng-Ting [9] (11:7, 11:7, 11:9, 12:10)
Yukiya Uda 4:0 Gao Ning [16] (11:8, 11:9, 11:8, 11:7)
[18] Lubomir Pistej 4:3 Quentin Robinot (7:11, 12:10, 11:9, 11:13, 8:11, 11:9, 11:5)
Florent Lambiet 4:2 Anton Källberg [20] (11:9, 1412, 11:6, 8:11, 9:11, 18:16)
Zhou Yu 4:2 Harmeet Desai [21] (12:10, 7:11, 11:5, 11:2, 8:11, 11:4)
Tomislav Pucar 4:1 Jakub Dyjas [22] (11:9, 6:11, 11:8, 11:8, 11:6)


Preliminary Round (winners qualify for Main Draw):

[11] Ricardo Walther 4:1 Tomislav Pucar (13:11, 11:8, 6:11, 12:10, 11:7)
Zhou Yu 4:0 Cedric Nuytinck [12] (11:8, 12:10, 11:3, 11:3)
[13] Lin Yun-Ju 4:1 Florent Lambiet (9:11, 11:8, 13:11, 11:8, 11:9)
[14] Masataka Morizono 4:1 Kazuhiro Yoshimura [19] (8:11, 11:7, 11:6, 11:8, 11:5)
[15] Alvaro Robles 4:3 Lubomir Pistej [18] (11:7, 6:11, 18:16, 11:7, 8:11, 14:16, 11:3)
[17] Kim Donghyun 4:2 Yukiya Uda (9:11, 10:12, 11:7, 11:8, 12:10, 11:7)


Women's Singles

Qualification groups (group winners qualify for Main Draw):

Fan Siqi, CHN 4:0 Honoka Hashimoto [1] (11:9, 11:4, 12:10, 11:9)
Li Jiayi, CHN 4:3 Honoka Hashimoto [1] (11:3, 11:5, 5:11, 9:11, 11:7, 8:11, 11:8)
Liu Hsing-Yin 4:3 Yang Haeun [3] (7:11, 8:11, 11:8, 11:9, 11:9, 11:13, 14:12)
[4] Yui Hamamoto 4:0 Che Xiaoxi, CHN (11:5, 11:9, 11:7, 11:5)
He Zhuojia, CHN 4:0 Maki Shiomi [6] (11:5, 11:1, 11:8, 11:7)
Barbora Balazova 4:0 Dina Meshref [7] (11:6, 11:8, 11:9, 12:10)
[12] Suthasini Sawettabut 4:3 Mizuki Morizono (9:11, 8:11, 12:10, 14:12, 5:11, 12:10, 11:3)
[13] Minami Ando 4:0 Liu Weishan, CHN (11:9, 11:6, 11:4, 12:10)
[14] Lin Ye 4:3 Lin Chia-Hsuan (3:11, 7:11, 11:6, 11:9, 7:11, 11:9, 11:4)
 
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What...? That seems unfair... When you already have the home field advantage and the home crowd behind you, you still need to manipulate the drawing as an incentive?

Just look at the main draw. There are 6 Japanese players in the top 16 seeding. Somehow, 4 of them landed in brackets right next to each other. The 2 Korean players also landed in the same bracket. How does this happen?

Is the bracket placement based on seeding (like 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, 3 vs 14, and so on)? Or is it "random" chance that this happened?

This stuff has happened in all kinds of tournaments all over the world, including ones like World Cups and WTTC and WTTTC - are you just noticing it for the first time?
 
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This stuff has happened in all kinds of tournaments all over the world, including ones like World Cups and WTTC and WTTTC - are you just noticing it for the first time?

Just because it happens all the time, doesn't make it right.
I'm just curious about the way ITTF does the bracket. If it's based on seeding, then it's purely coincidental. I can accept that.
If it's done randomly, I just thought it doesn't look very random.
 
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This made me laugh out loud. A lot. For a long time.

This is Australia, a country which invests its energy in a form of football played in no other country in the world, where tens of thousands will crowd around ovals every weekend to watch grown men grubbing in the mud to kick a non-round ball. But table tennis? A game dismissed at best and ridiculed at worst. The crowd for the finals will be measured in tens, possibly a couple of hundred, and every single Australian player will have exited the competition days before.

Home field advantage? Home crowd? You're dreaming.

If you look at the entries shown on the ITTF site, you'll see that Aussies are the lowest ranked players in both men and women. The only seeded male player is David Powell (16), and that is a home Association concession. Similarly for Lay Jian Fang in the women's.

Wait... I'm confused now... Are you dissing table tennis? (which doesn't make sense, since you are obviously a TT fan and know quite a bit about the sport) Or are you saying that just because TT is not popular in Australia, so it's ok to let unfair practices slide? Neither of the points you made is valid justification.

Regardless of home crowd size, home field advantage is very much a thing. I have to believe that Australian players are more used to the local climate than most foreign players.
 
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Just because it happens all the time, doesn't make it right.
I'm just curious about the way ITTF does the bracket. If it's based on seeding, then it's purely coincidental. I can accept that.
If it's done randomly, I just thought it doesn't look very random.

It's one player if the host country has no natural seeds and he is seeded in a bottom seed spot. Otherwise he is seeded where he would have been naturally seeded.

Of course that doesn't make it right. But the point is not to act like it recently started happening. And it has happened for the reasons that others may have already given: to help the TT of the host nation.
 
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Regardless of home crowd size, home field advantage is very much a thing. I have to believe that Australian players are more used to the local climate than most foreign players.
Nope. Only the local players will be used to the local climate. It's Geelong in midwinter. Get out a map and measure how far it is from Geelong to Sydney, then check out the daily temperatures. Compare with Brisbane or Perth or Darwin. Saying Australian players all share the same climatic conditions is like saying players from Florida should be acclimatised for a tournament in Wisconsin in December.

Regardless, why would the ITTF try to set things up for Australian players? Our best male is 1200 WR ranking points behind XX. The only way David Powell could win this one is if every overseas player contracted food poisoning. Hang on a minute. There's an idea!
 
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Very high level of performance. Feel like two penholders power looping each other with FH in the old days. Amazing footwork for both.

It's such a rare match these days. Much more entertaining than BH to BH block that happens a lot in men's game.

I reckon both are winners in the match.

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Jang Woojin just won the Korea open and I believe he was last ranked #30 in the world, although I am assuming that his result will move him up in the standings. Why wasn't he in the main draw based upon his world ranking and the recent tour win? This makes no sense to me. Look to tennis which has similar 128 entrant knock out tournaments. If somebody were to win a major tour event (regardless of their ranking) there is now way they would have to play a qualifying match or two to get into the main draw of the next event.

Do people agree with me that the Australian Open entrant policy with regards to Jang Woojin is illogical? I welcome any arguments defending the system.

I hope I'm not ruffling any feathers. I'm a new Table Tennis fan, but have been watching multiple sports for decades and I have to vent as this situation is truly puzzling to me.
 
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I'm not saying he doesn't play well, quite the opposite, but I don't see a problem with this system (not exactly with the recent change), for me it values consistency, and if you're consistent I think soon you can get into main draw seeder, like not took long for DN leaves the qualification being like more than #20, now she's 12, being again main seeder(not that's that fair with the new ranking). Soon she'll get higher and higher rankings cause even getting older she has consistency, so if he doesn't have it why should start with "advantage" cause one single result?
Jang Woojin just won the Korea open and I believe he was last ranked #30 in the world, although I am assuming that his result will move him up in the standings. Why wasn't he in the main draw based upon his world ranking and the recent tour win? This makes no sense to me. Look to tennis which has similar 128 entrant knock out tournaments. If somebody were to win a major tour event (regardless of their ranking) there is now way they would have to play a qualifying match or two to get into the main draw of the next event.

Do people agree with me that the Australian Open entrant policy with regards to Jang Woojin is illogical? I welcome any arguments defending the system.

I hope I'm not ruffling any feathers. I'm a new Table Tennis fan, but have been watching multiple sports for decades and I have to vent as this situation is truly puzzling to me.

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Ouch! Jun Mizutani loses 9-11 in the decider by an edge ball after coming back from 0-3. That's gotta hurt.
After easy win in 6th game I thought he is going to win last one quite easy. Chinese guy took a lot of time going arrounds and tried to open the game ASAP. It was quite lucky for the LDS.
Pity for Mizutani who is playing quite well recently and was my favourite in this tournament.
 
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Posted this on Mytt about the venue condition. Thought it'd be of interest here as well.

Australia Open had the highest prize money last year. The folks suffered severe financial loss as a result. Be grateful we even have the Open this year. They've done a great job the past several years to get the Platinum status but at great cost.

https://documents.ittf.com/system/files/documents/20170923_EC_Halmstad_minutes.pdf
12. Any other business
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12.3. Australian Open
Mr James Morris reported on the heavy financial losses for Table Tennis Australia, in hosting
the Australian Open, which has resulted in numerous changes to the professional staff
structure of Table Tennis Australia, as well as impacting the make-up of the Table Tennis
Australia Board.
The Australian Open is a very important for Oceania, and ITTF-Oceania hopes that the event
can take place in 2018.
The President agreed that it is very important to have a World Tour event in Oceania, and
therefore the ITTF will try to help.
 
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Hayata has lost some weight since Japan Open.
 
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