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[...] I was not impressed when someone insisted Harimoto' style suited the new ball and ML's style was outdated when Harimoto beat him in Japan Open. They completely forgot ML won the Chinese Open not so long ago with the new ball, too.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHS...tar-Seamed-ABS-Balls-Plastic/32900326863.html.
DHS D40+ (ITTF ***) plastic balls of most recent origin, production date June 2018 (in orange).
Be happy
Igor, where did you get that info that those balls of newer date are different than the D40+ we all know?
I have many older D40+ and there seem to be two types, one with a really high pitched sound and the other one sounds kinda 'normal', more like NP40+. I even got 2 balls with the World Tour Stamp on it and they sound like the "normal" balls. What changed and when etc? Both ball types I have are from early 2017(!)
Dude, you seem to jump to strange conclusions!
Last year´s change? Maybe on amateur level, but the pros have made the switch 4 years ago.
This is silly.
Maybe i´m the only but this sounds totally fishy to me!
Taku Arai, he keeps kind a testing log, he collected a lot of plastic balls and made some measurements on the balls, such as shell thickness and weight. According to the tests, the newer DHS balls proved to have thinner outer shell beside the earlier batches.
I think the change everyone's talking about here is the change to the new ABS plastic material. This material is slightly different from the original plastic ball. The new ABS balls are harder, bouncier, and have less spin potential than the older plastic balls.
Thought I'd clarify, just in case there's confusion.
The 3-star D40+ was first released in January, 2017. This video was published a whole year before that. Apparently, the balls in question were cellulose acetate DHS 40+ and DFish 40+, just by how white they are.
The 3-star D40+ was first released in January, 2017. This video was published a whole year before that. Apparently, the balls in question were cellulose acetate DHS 40+ and DFish 40+, just by how white they are.
JUST DO IT ...
You will be strongly amazed to see the actual difference between the newer balls and earlier balls.
This is the best adequate device to measure the ball shell thickness within a high accuracy 0,01mm
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dig...-Caliper-Width-Measure-Tools/32830683089.html
Be happy.
People have been discussing how the reduced spin in the newer balls has affected the game, but I've been thinking about something lately. Isn't the spin imparted on a ball dependent on both technique AND equipment? If the newer balls have reduced spin with existing/older equipment, cant newer equipment specifically tailored to the new ball restore at the very least some portion of this aspect?
If people have less trouble with XX's spin because of the newer ball, won't this struggle return once XX switches to a paddle that imparts more spin? Isn't the "spin game" in table tennis relative? Its not how much spin you impart, its wether the spin has a negative impact on your opponent, and given the drop in spin small enough that existing stroke techniques are not deprecated, should someone like XX who relies heavily on spin not be able to regain his spin advantage?
Probably yes, to a degree. Otherwise more people would quit spinning and switch to flat hitting with SP.
But one needs to adjust the strategy at the same time too, 'cause the balls behave so differently and sometimes just sit on the table waiting to get killed.
One cannot just ignore the specs and pretend it's a cellball.
Definitely agree with you. I think what interests me is the question, "why not?". Off the top of my head, I wonder if perhaps the increase in the weight of the ball accounts to an extent an increase in shot consistency near the table? Clearly Harimoto struggled with XX's spin (and wether that is due to wetness behind the ears or some other factors is a separate argument itself), so this much is sure that one can't simply dismiss my earlier point and say it is unequivocally not the case or that XX's style is obsolete. What then, is causing more and more players to attack the ball earlier on? Is it the ball itself, or a natural evolution in the game? Or a mix of both? How common were close to the table off the bounce hitters during the different eras of the ball?