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Tibhar El-p versus El-s (versus Donic Bluefire JP02)

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Anyone who tried both of them?

How significant is the difference? I'm modern defender and I wonder which one is best in terms of:
-topspin generation (for attacking)
-control for the short game and when chopping away from the table

If someone can compare one of these two rubbers with Donic Bluefire JP02, that would be GREAT!

Thanks!
 

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They are very different. EL-S is more linear and less explosive than EL-P. Grippier. Much thinner topsheet. T05 lovers will mostly prefer El-P. These days, though, I very much prefer EL-S, since I like rubbers with maximal predictability. I am not sure which would be better for a modern defender since I don't play that way at all. Both can generate a ton of spin. The main difference to my way of thinking is how much ball speed and trajectory depends on the effort you put in. EL-S will penalize lazy technique more but is definitely better in short game or anything that requires a lot of touch. It is a bit in the same realm of rubbers like Karis M and Stiga Mantra I think. EL-S will need you to open up your racket angle a bit when attacking.

(It has been 18 months since I hit with either one, so I am going on memory here).
 
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Very helpful comment. Can you also compare those Tibhar rubbers with Donic Bluefire JP02. I'm thinking of sticking to the bluefire, very linear & controllable in all areas

Yogibear's comment is a bit contradictory to Baal's comment. Yogi says El-P sometimes feels dead and not bouncy, while Baal says the opposite... I don't like it too bouncy, catapulty, i need sufficient control when chopping...
 

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Thank you. More spinny also means more sensitive to spin from the opponent, which makes it harder to chop from a distance. I think JP02 was the middle ground... But i'm tempted to try the EL-S with a slightly thinner sponge (1,8mm) on my second blade. What makes me doubt is the hardness of El-S and possibly a lack of 'feeling'.
 
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