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    Asian Games 2018

    The table tennis events of the 18th Asian Games in Jakarka and Palembang, Indonesia started today with the team events.

    It is essentially the "Asian Olympic Games" - a multi-sport event held every four years.

    The table tennis competition consists of the same five events as the upcoming 2020 Tokyo Olympics:

    Men's Team Seeds
    1) China
    2) Japan
    3) South Korea
    4) Chinese Taipei

    Women's Team Seeds
    1) China
    2) Japan
    3) Korea
    4) Hong Kong

    Men's Singles Seeds
    1) Fan Zhendong
    2) Lin Gaoyuan
    3) Lee Sangsu
    4) Wong Chun Ting
    5) Chuang Chih-Yuan
    6) Kenta Matsudaira
    7) Jeoung Youngsik
    8) Jin Ueda

    Women's Singles Seeds
    1) Chen Meng
    2) Wang Manyu
    3) Cheng I-Ching
    4) Feng Tianwei
    5) Suh Hyowon
    6) Doo Hoi Kem
    7) Miyu Kato
    8) Lee Ho Ching

    Mixed Doubles Seeds
    1) Lin Gaoyuan/Wang Manyu
    2) Wong Chun Ting/Doo Hoi Kem
    3) Lee Sangsu/Jeon Jihee
    4) Chen Chien-An/Cheng I-Ching
    5) Chuang Chih-Yuan/Chen Szu-Yu
    6) Lim Jonghoon/Yang Haeun
    7) Ho Kwan Kit/Lee Ho Ching
    8) Jin Ueda/Miyu Maeda

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    Selected results from Day 1 (Sun 26 August 2018):

    Men's Team (top two teams in each group qualifies for quarter-finals)

    Group A:

    [1] China 3:0 North Korea [8]
    1) Fan Zhendong 3:0 An Ji Song (11:4, 13:11, 11:4)
    2) Lin Gaoyuan 3:0 Ham Yu Song (11:6, 11:8, 11:5)
    3) Wang Chuqin 3:1 Pak Sin Hyok (11:8, 11:3, 8:11, 11:7)


    Group B:

    [2] Japan 3:1 Iran [7]
    1) Kenta Matsudaira 0:3 Nima Alamian (6:11, 9:11, 10:12)
    2) Jin Ueda 3:1 Noshad Alamiyan (12:10, 6:11, 11:5, 12:10)
    3) Masataka Morizono 3:1 Afshin Noroozi (11:4, 10:12, 11:5, 12:10)
    4) Kenta Matsudaira 3:1 Noshad Alamiyan (6:11, 12:10, 11:9, 11:5)


    Group C:

    [3] South Korea 3:2 Hong Kong [5]
    1) Jeoung Youngsik 1:3 Wong Chun Ting (9:11, 11:8, 5:11, 10:12)
    2) Lee Sangsu 3:0 Ho Kwan Kit (11:6, 11:6, 11:8)
    3) Jang Woojin 3:2 Ng Pak Nam (11:5, 11:7, 8:11, 8:11, 11:9)
    4) Lee Sangsu 2:3 Wong Chun Ting (11:13, 11:6, 9:11, 11:6, 8:11)
    5) Jeoung Youngsik 3:2 Ho Kwan Kit (11:9, 11:7, 9:11, 4:11, 11:5)


    Group D:

    [4] Chinese Taipei 3:2 India [6]
    1) Lin Yun-Ju 1:3 Achanta Sharath Kamal (8:11, 11:5, 10:12, 8:11)
    2) Chuang Chih-Yuan 3:0 Sathiyan Gnanasekaran (12:10, 11:9, 11:9)
    3) Chen Chien-An 2:3 Harmeet Desai (7:11, 12:10, 7:11, 11:7, 11:13)
    4) Chuang Chih-Yuan 3:1 Achanta Sharath Kamal (11:1, 11:8, 10:12, 11:1)
    5) Lin Yun-Ju 3:1 Sathiyan Gnanasekaran (11:9, 4:11, 11:9, 11:9)


    Women's Team (top two teams in each group qualifies for quarter-finals)

    Group A:

    [1] China 3:0 India [8]
    1) Chen Meng 3:1 Ayhika Mukherjee (11:8, 8:11, 14:12, 11:9)
    2) Zhu Yuling 3:0 Manika Batra (11:5, 11:6, 12:10)
    3) Wang Manyu 3:0 Madhurika Patkar (11:4, 11:4, 11:2)


    Group B:

    [2] Japan 2:3 North Korea [7]
    1) Miyu Kato 3:1 Cha Hyo Sim (7:11, 11:2, 13:11, 14:12)
    2) Minami Ando 3:1 Kim Song I (4:11, 11:6, 11:9, 11:7)
    3) Miyu Maeda 2:3 Kim Nam Hae (8:11, 8:11, 16:14, 11:8, 5:11)
    4) Miyu Kato 2:3 Kim Song I (8:11, 4:11, 11:4, 11:5, 9:11)
    5) Minami Ando 1:3 Cha Hyo Sim (4:11, 10:12, 11:7, 10:12)


    Group C:

    [3] South Korea 3:1 Chinese Taipei [5]
    1) Suh Hyowon 1:3 Cheng I-Ching 3:1 (3:11, 11:7, 8:11, 13:15)
    2) Jeon Jihee 3:2 Chen Szu-Yu 2:3 (5:11, 11:7, 11:6, 7:11, 11:5)
    3) Yang Haeun 3:0 Liu Hsing-Yin 0:3 (11:6, 11:9, 11:9)
    4) Jeon Jihee 3:1 Cheng I-Ching 1:3 (11:13, 11:8, 11:8, 11:5)


    Group D:

    [4] Hong Kong 3:1 Singapore [6]
    1) Lee Ho Ching 3:2 Feng Tianwei (14:12, 9:11, 11:7, 6:11, 11:8)
    2) Doo Hoi Kem 3:2 Lin Ye (10:12, 11:2, 11:5, 7:11, 11:8)
    3) Minnie Soo Wai Yam 1:3 Yu Mengyu (8:11, 3:11, 11:7, 4:11)
    4) Doo Hoi Kem 3:1 Feng Tianwei (6:11, 11:9, 14:12, 11:7)



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    Harimoto played in the Czech Open. Will he play Asian games to?

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    Nima Alamian 3 and kenta mastsudaira 0 . Great result for Nima but sadly not for iran

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    Harimoto played in the Czech Open. Will he play Asian games to?
    No, sadly not

    Participation rules are the same as at the Olympics, so only two players/pairs per national association can enter the individual events.

    I don't know why the Japanese association didn't select any of their top players for the Asian Games, but basically sent their B-team (men) or even C-team (women) in stead?

    Maybe some of our Asian speaking friends in the forum can help us figure this out?

    Also, very noteworthy the CNT has prioritized the young players for this event: none of the senior players (read: Olympic champions Ma Long, Zhang Jike, Xu Xin, Ding Ning and Liu Shiwen) are present in Indonesia.

    It will be interesting to see how the young-ish Chinese players are able handle the pressure on their own...

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    Also, if you want to learn more about table tennis at the Asian Games, I highly recommend the blog of our fellow forum user table tennis fan:

    https://tabletennissbsbb.blogspot.co...0Asian%20Games

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesperStef
    Also, if you want to learn more about table tennis at the Asian Games, I highly recommend the blog of our fellow forum user table tennis fan:

    https://tabletennissbsbb.blogspot.co...0Asian%20Games
    excellent blog

    Japan's women team lost 2-3 to PRK. Not surprising given its their C team there. Minami ANDO could have set up Japan for an upset as she won against the Rio Bronze medalist chopper KIM Song I, but team leader Miyu KATO lost against her; and the 3rd Japan player Miyu MAEDA lost to a KIM Nam Rae.

    btw, Singapore has no Men's team. I know old fatty GAO Ning is their best player and they don't stand a chance, but many small nations are there, so WTF is going on ?

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    JNT are more tuned to aggragating ranking points at this time.
    as explained earlier by Miyasaki, since the alotment for the Olympics for JNT will be based on world rankings in January 2020, positioning is everything, beginning in 2019. Seeding in tournaments, based on WR, will be thus affected too.
    A win at the Asian Games garners only 1050 pts, whereas in an Open will get 1800. Even getting to R16 will get 1080 pts at an Open. Internal competition for the 2 Singles, as well as the third position in Team is fierce.
    So they traded Asian Games for Bulgaria & Czech Op.
    (Can’t post the link, but go to headlines.yahoo.co.jp and add article?a=20180826-00831724-number-spo&p=1)
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    No, sadly not

    Participation rules are the same as at the Olympics, so only two players/pairs per national association can enter the individual events.

    I don't know why the Japanese association didn't select any of their top players for the Asian Games, but basically sent their B-team (men) or even C-team (women) in stead?

    Maybe some of our Asian speaking friends in the forum can help us figure this out?

    Also, very noteworthy the CNT has prioritized the young players for this event: none of the senior players (read: Olympic champions Ma Long, Zhang Jike, Xu Xin, Ding Ning and Liu Shiwen) are present in Indonesia.

    It will be interesting to see how the young-ish Chinese players are able handle the pressure on their own...
    According to this article
    http://number.bunshun.jp/articles/-/831724

    the criterion for selecting the athletes for individual competition for Tokyo Olympics will be the ITTF ranking in 2020

    Thus top players are all fighting for their ranking. 2018 ITTF opens don't matter directly for the 2020 ranking calculation, but the higher the ranking, the higher the chances of being seeded, and with their stupid ITTF ranking system, even losing in the 1st round as a seed gets you a lot of points. As a matter of fact, the Asian Games award much less points (1080 max) than the Czech Open (1800 points max).

    Given the situation, i don't understand why the JTTA, to put all athletes on the same feet didn't just do some or all of the following:
    - forbid players to participate in Czech / Bulgaria Open
    - call players for the Asian Games and exclude from the team those who answer negatively (without a decent excuse like injury)
    - if Asian Games seem less important and they want to give everyone their chance, make an internal selection tournament

    Now just look at the team from Japan: Kenta Matsudaira, Jin Ueda, Masaki Yoshida. If lucky they'll get bronze, but they stand no chance of course against China, but also against South Korea. Not sure if they can beat HK, Taipei, India or even PRK either.

    The Women's Team is even worse: Miyu Kato, Minami Ando, Miyu Maeda.

    Japan had a (albeit small) chance for gold in both M and W if they fielded their best teams. The Asian Games are not as prestigious as the Olympics or WTTC, still a medal there would be remembered and its not like there are many opportunities to win medals.

    Also this time China has a strong but a little bit unexperienced team. A few years ago, Ai FUKUHARA snapped one of her few wins [still much much better than ISHIKAWA ever achieved] against China beating Ding NING in the Asian Games 2014 3-1.

    TLDR: ANGRY

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    the commentator lists Grand Slam winners, calls JOW John Oev Wellner, LGL Louis Goodland (not kidding)

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    they are really young
    China looking to bring a new generation to the forefront.

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