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Hello,
I am trying to understand an awkward serve that I have received lately.
The rubber used by him is one of the Butterfly Tenergy 05fx or Tenergy 64fx rubbers and I am not sure what blade he used - what I am trying to say here is that he is not using any " special " rubber like an anti-spin rubber, pips out rubber, etc.
In the lines below I am going to do by best to explain what is happening.
He is a right-handed player like me and he is serving from his forehand something that looks like a slow topspin serve somewhere between my backhand and the middle of the table. The ball jumps slowly over the net and if I leave it to jump twice, the second bounce will be on the table so we have to deal with a short serve.
The problem is that if I am trying to do a diagonally backhand flip, the ball will go straight into the net. - I tried different variations by attacking the ball more vertically or by brushing the ball fast at its top with a closed angle of the racket but I got the same results.
Since the first approach did not work, even if it looked like a slow top spin serve, I tried to attack the ball underneath like it was coming with backspin - the ball was returned to him pretty high.
The only way to return it was to attack the ball underneath with the blade opened at a ~30 degree angle (something like this \O) like you do when you want to return a forehand Tomahawk Serve on your backhand for example.In this case, the ball went pretty low over the net into the backhand of my opponent on the table (something like a long push on his backhand).
More than that, since the ball came slowly in front of me, I had enough time to see its spin many times and here is the biggest problem: it does not have backspin nor topspin or side-spin (), it came straight forward like a topspin serve but instead it had a strange effect which I called it " disruptive " and I am going to explain it.
The normal topspin is linear in a way that the ball goes up and then goes down and you can predict that more or less.
In this case, the ball comes with something like a topspin but it looks like it is stopping for a while in the air and then suddenly it accelerates down ; it is very hard to see it clearly but you feel it in your blade for sure when you attack the ball.This is why I have a hard time to explain it in words since it is not following a linear trajectory. - in a way, it looks very similar with a backspin ball which is returned with a vertical topspin which overwrites its backspin (this one will go pretty linear until it will bounce on the opponent`s side and then it will accelerate very very fast with topspin)
So my questions are:
1. How the effect is generated ?
2. How do I serve like that?
3. How do I return that serve?
I really appreciate any help from you.
Best regards.
I am trying to understand an awkward serve that I have received lately.
The rubber used by him is one of the Butterfly Tenergy 05fx or Tenergy 64fx rubbers and I am not sure what blade he used - what I am trying to say here is that he is not using any " special " rubber like an anti-spin rubber, pips out rubber, etc.
In the lines below I am going to do by best to explain what is happening.
He is a right-handed player like me and he is serving from his forehand something that looks like a slow topspin serve somewhere between my backhand and the middle of the table. The ball jumps slowly over the net and if I leave it to jump twice, the second bounce will be on the table so we have to deal with a short serve.
The problem is that if I am trying to do a diagonally backhand flip, the ball will go straight into the net. - I tried different variations by attacking the ball more vertically or by brushing the ball fast at its top with a closed angle of the racket but I got the same results.
Since the first approach did not work, even if it looked like a slow top spin serve, I tried to attack the ball underneath like it was coming with backspin - the ball was returned to him pretty high.
The only way to return it was to attack the ball underneath with the blade opened at a ~30 degree angle (something like this \O) like you do when you want to return a forehand Tomahawk Serve on your backhand for example.In this case, the ball went pretty low over the net into the backhand of my opponent on the table (something like a long push on his backhand).
More than that, since the ball came slowly in front of me, I had enough time to see its spin many times and here is the biggest problem: it does not have backspin nor topspin or side-spin (), it came straight forward like a topspin serve but instead it had a strange effect which I called it " disruptive " and I am going to explain it.
The normal topspin is linear in a way that the ball goes up and then goes down and you can predict that more or less.
In this case, the ball comes with something like a topspin but it looks like it is stopping for a while in the air and then suddenly it accelerates down ; it is very hard to see it clearly but you feel it in your blade for sure when you attack the ball.This is why I have a hard time to explain it in words since it is not following a linear trajectory. - in a way, it looks very similar with a backspin ball which is returned with a vertical topspin which overwrites its backspin (this one will go pretty linear until it will bounce on the opponent`s side and then it will accelerate very very fast with topspin)
So my questions are:
1. How the effect is generated ?
2. How do I serve like that?
3. How do I return that serve?
I really appreciate any help from you.
Best regards.