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    Darker Hinoki 5p-2a

    Anybody has this one?
    Whats the handle size?
    I like a rather large handle…

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    I have played with it for three years. I own three . What do you mean with large? Thickness or length? FL handle length is standard I would say, thickness is roughly like Korbel, a bit thinner over all. The blade is 6.5mm thick, so the handle is not as thin as for example Nittaku Acoustic or H301. My gauge is broken so I can't give you the exact measurements.

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    I found the handle measurements on a Japanese website. Here they are:

    - Shakehand - Flare (blade size: 257 x 150 mm, grip size: 100 x 23mm)
    - Shakehand - Straight (blade size: 257 x 150 mm, grip size: 100 x 23mm)

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    I’m talking about thickness here. For a flared handle. 100 x 23 is too thin for me.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK73
    I have played with it for three years. I own three . What do you mean with large? Thickness or length? FL handle length is standard I would say, thickness is roughly like Korbel, a bit thinner over all. The blade is 6.5mm thick, so the handle is not as thin as for example Nittaku Acoustic or H301. My gauge is broken so I can't give you the exact measurements.

    Sorry but handle on H301 not thin, its much bigger then on Korbel and Acoustic.

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    You guys know anything about Neottec Amagi Off-, specifically handle size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer
    You guys know anything about Neottec Amagi Off-, specifically handle size?

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    I have been playing with a Neottec Amagi off (the carbon variant) for a couple of months. I’m playing with a straight handle, so I guess it’s not that helpful, but that handle is ok for me (28x23 or so) and I do prefer large handles. Quality is better than what the price suggests!

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    You mean 100x23 (or it would be extremely short 😉 )
    So that probably means the same for a Flared, I guess they are made for Japanese hands, too small for me.

    I have a BTY innerforce ALC.S which is 100x 24, cant stand that handle, like a popsickle.

    Still interested in trying my Mjönir?

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    if large handle is what you are looking for there is BTY Omar Assar blade check it out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elraghy
    if large handle is what you are looking for there is BTY Omar Assar blade check it out
    There is more to it than a large handle. 5 layer wood and hinoki outer (>2 mm).
    An I also don't like blades with names attached to them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer
    You mean 100x23 (or it would be extremely short 😉 )
    So that probably means the same for a Flared, I guess they are made for Japanese hands, too small for me.

    I have a BTY innerforce ALC.S which is 100x 24, cant stand that handle, like a popsickle.

    Still interested in trying my Mjönir?

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    I assume he means width and thickness. Width and thickness should be of more interest than thickness and length. Almost all handles are 100 and a few 102


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    Well all manufacturers give length and thickness, where the thickness is measured is unclear.

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    Darker handles vary in thickness. All blades are handmade so there are slight variations. Those I own - 5P2A, 7P2A Carbon, 7P2A.05 - between 23,5 and 25mm. Maybe you can ask your online supplier of choice for a speciment with a more chunky handle. Nexy used to make the Tamar V (5ply hinoki) which has a really thick handle. Unfortunately they don’t produce it anymore.

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    Hmm, interesting ,I am using TT11 but they often state "Out of stock" so I don't think there is a lot of choices here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer
    You mean 100x23 (or it would be extremely short 😉 )
    So that probably means the same for a Flared, I guess they are made for Japanese hands, too small for me.

    I have a BTY innerforce ALC.S which is 100x 24, cant stand that handle, like a popsickle.

    Still interested in trying my Mjönir?

    Cheers
    L-zr

    Jup, 100 length or thereabout. The handle feels thicker than comparably shaped Butterfly handles (the round straight ones). I have large hands by swedish standards and can still play comfortably with the handle. To me changing from flared to straight made it much easier to find suitable blades.

    Would definately like to test Mjölnir at some point!


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    OK, right now I got Mark V on, really, really slow, but next step up will be either Mark V HPS, Xiom Vega Europe or Rakza 7 (my favourite).
    Regarding testing I will send You a message.

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    For those who are interested in some Darker Hinoki 5p-2a real photos right out of the box. I expected that wings will be sanded much more round, so I did that after.
    Overall quality is nice. I'm still testing it with different rubbers, so can't give a final verdict. But the blade really has a soft feeling and a kind of Hinoki catapult.
    So harder rubbers with not an intense catapult are preferable as I see.
    On one side I have Hurricane 8-80 38" and overall I like it.

    Handle is not huge. I would say it is minimal option for a bigger hands. A little bit smaller one wouldn't be comfortable for me.




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    Forgot to attach a couple of more photos

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    The handle size was one reason I did not get one. I got a special build from SDC instead, with a hinoki top layer. I am very happy with this.
    It is probably also faster than than the 5p-2a.

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