What's the cheapest euro-style tensor rubber?

thomas.pong · Sep 18, 2018

Hi, I'm looking for a cheap euro-style non-tacky tensor rubber (or close to tensor feeling) preferably under 40 deg sponge hardness (on the European scale) for good control.

The plan is to eventually order it in volume to use for side-by-side blade testing

The best option I've found so far is the Air Illumina Delta (35 deg) at $16 a sheet.

Do you guys know of other cheap euro-style rubbers including from Chinese brands that would fit the bill?

yogi_bear · Sep 19, 2018

Yasaka rigan is cheap

anjoooo · Sep 19, 2018

I used this for a while: https://revspin.net/rubber/kokutaku-blutenkirsche-868-tokyo.html

It was fine for a while but I wanted more speed and I upgraded to Rasant. It was good for learning the basics.

chuckjordan2 · Sep 19, 2018

Donic Twingo Plus is a soft rubber.

http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-twingo-plus

Price is good.

MDP · Sep 19, 2018

You can't really go wrong with any of the Xiom Vega series.
Vega europe or vega elite will probably be the hardness you are looking for.

Ioiettino · Sep 19, 2018

Hi Thomas!

Of course your best bet for extra-cheap is one of many European style Chinese rubbers, but I've always been wondering about the Neottec rubbers which are often on special on TT11. Maybe worth sending them an email for further description?

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

yogi_bear said:
Yasaka rigan is cheap

Thanks Yogi, I'm looking for cheaper if possible. Just curious, what hardness is the Yasaka Rigan?

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

anjoooo said:
I used this for a while: https://revspin.net/rubber/kokutaku-blutenkirsche-868-tokyo.html

It was fine for a while but I wanted more speed and I upgraded to Rasant. It was good for learning the basics.

Thanks anjoooo, that might be a very good option for me for blade testing.

I've seen Kokutaku's rubbers before but couldn't really tell which are euro-style and which are chinese-style.

Do you know the hardness of the one you recommended and which other rubbers of theirs is euro-style?

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

chuckjordan2 said:
Donic Twingo Plus is a soft rubber.

http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-twingo-plus

Price is good.

Thanks Chuck, have you tried it before?

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

MDP said:
You can't really go wrong with any of the Xiom Vega series.
Vega europe or vega elite will probably be the hardness you are looking for.

Thanks MDP, I've considered the Vega Europe DF (37.5 deg) before but this is purely for testing a bunch of blades side-by-side so something cheaper will do. There's the Vega Intro which is the cheapest of the Vega series but it's too hard (47.5 deg surprisingly).

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

Ioiettino said:
Hi Thomas!

Of course your best bet for extra-cheap is one of many European style Chinese rubbers, but I've always been wondering about the Neottec rubbers which are often on special on TT11. Maybe worth sending them an email for further description?

Salut, bonne idée on the Neottec rubbers! Will do.

Could you name a few of the Euro-style Chinese rubbers you know?

hipnotic · Sep 19, 2018

You might want to try the Palio AK47 Blue. Not really that tensor feel but close enough.

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

hipnotic said:
You might want to try the Palio AK47 Blue. Not really that tensor feel but close enough.

Thanks Hipnotic, is it takky? What's the sponge hardness?

hipnotic · Sep 19, 2018

thomas.pong said:
Thanks Hipnotic, is it takky? What's the sponge hardness?

It's not tacky. It says says 38-40º on the package. About 10€ a sheet on aliexpress.

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

hipnotic said:
It's not tacky. It says says 38-40º on the package. About 10€ a sheet on aliexpress.

38-40º: Is that on the European or Asian scale?

thomas.pong · Sep 19, 2018

Any thoughts on the following:

Butterfly Flextra, 40 deg, tensor???
TSP Ventus Basic, 37.5 deg, non-tensor
Stiga Carbo M/C, 38 deg, non-tensor
Tibhar Rapid Soft, 35 deg, non-tensor

chuckjordan2 · Sep 19, 2018

Thomas,

Yes I tried it. Donic Twingo Plus is an All- rubber. Very soft topsheet, not fast. I'm not a Def player and it didn't suit me on my All+ blade.

hipnotic · Sep 19, 2018

thomas.pong said:
38-40º: Is that on the European or Asian scale?

I think it's European.

Ivan Muratalla · Sep 19, 2018

Ioiettino said:
Hi Thomas!

Of course your best bet for extra-cheap is one of many European style Chinese rubbers, but I've always been wondering about the Neottec rubbers which are often on special on TT11. Maybe worth sending them an email for further description?

Neotttec Kattana and hinomi M are good, me and some of my frinds have it

Some question about this rubbers?

yogi_bear · Sep 19, 2018

Yasaka Rigan is 40-42 degrees

thomas.pong said:
Thanks anjoooo, that might be a very good option for me for blade testing.

I've seen Kokutaku's rubbers before but couldn't really tell which are euro-style and which are chinese-style.

Do you know the hardness of the one you recommended and which other rubbers of theirs is euro-style?

What's the cheapest euro-style tensor rubber?

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